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[behindthepen]

ny vs BOS

2008 TITLE DEFENSE
	new york	5-5, 1-2 away	at	BOSTON	5-5, 2-1 at home
Fri 7:05	RHP Wang	2-0, 1.38 ERA		Buchholz	0-1, 5.40 ERA	NESN (REGULAR NESN)- WRKO
Sat 3:55	RHP Mussina	1-1, 3.09 ERA		Beckett	0-1, 9.64 ERA	FOX - WRKO
Sun 8:09	RHP Hughes	0-1, 5.00 ERA		Matsuzaka	2-0, 1.47 ERA	ESPN - WRKO

07 stats

	Offense:										Pitching:
	RPG			OPS+	AVG	OBP	SLG	2B	HR		RAPG			ERA+	BB/G	K/G	HR	Bullpen ERA
ny	5.98	5.53	away	118	.290	.366	.463	326	201		4.80	4.88	away	99	3.6	6.2	150	4.37
BOS	5.35	4.88	home	107	.279	.362	.444	352	166		4.06	3.77	home	123	3.0	7.1	151	3.10
AL	4.90				.271	.338	.423				4.90				3.3	6.5

08 stats

	Offense:										Pitching:
	RPG			OPS+	AVG	OBP	SLG	2B	HR		RAPG			ERA+	BB/G	K/G	HR	Bullpen ERA
ny	3.10	2.67	away	92	.253	.310	.392	15	8		3.90	3.33	away	109	2.9	6.9	7	3.52
BOS	4.20	6.33	home	106	.276	.351	.419	19	8		4.70	4.33	home	94	4.8	8.0	11	5.91
AL	4.30				.256	.330	.400				4.30				3.5	6.2		4.26

edit: wrong stats for AL updated.

Amazingly, the team that lead baseball in scoring in 07, and averaged 6.6 runs per game after the ASG, is currently last in Scoring. Right behind DET. I guess that's what happens when you face the League leaders in pitching in KC, as both of those teams have had to do.

As a team, they're not walking very much (just 2.4 per game, compared to the AL at 3.5), which would be fine if they were hitting the ball, but they're just below average there. They have several starters just not getting it done, while only Cabrera and Abreu are outperforming expectations right now. Another interesting stat ... zero stolen bases so far this season:

BATTERS

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Pos	Player	G	AB	R	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	BB	SO	SB	BA	OBP	SLG	OPS	Age
CF	Cabrera	8	25	3	8	0	0	2	3	3	2	0	.320	.393	.560	.953	23
RF	Abreu	9	33	6	11	1	1	1	4	3	7	0	.333	.389	.515	.904	34
	Ensberg	3	8	2	3	0	0	0	0	0	1	0	.375	.375	.375	.750	32
DH	Matsui	10	35	2	11	1	0	2	6	2	7	0	.314	.351	.514	.865	34
3B	Rodriguez	10	37	7	11	4	0	2	7	3	10	0	.297	.350	.568	.918	32
	Gonzalez	2	6	0	2	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	.333	.333	.500	.833	25
C	Molina	7	22	1	7	4	0	0	0	0	2	0	.318	.318	.500	.818	33
	TOTAL	10	324	31	82	15	3	8	29	24	58	0	.253	.310	.392	.702	31.4
	Posada	6	21	3	5	0	0	1	3	2	6	0	.238	.304	.381	.685	36
LF	Damon	10	38	3	8	2	1	0	1	5	7	0	.211	.302	.316	.618	34
1B	Giambi	7	18	1	1	1	0	0	2	5	2	0	.056	.280	.111	.391	37
SS	Jeter	7	24	3	5	0	1	0	1	0	2	0	.208	.240	.292	.532	34
	Betemit	5	13	0	2	0	0	0	1	0	7	0	.154	.214	.154	.368	26
2B	Cano	10	39	0	7	1	0	0	1	1	5	0	.179	.200	.205	.405	25
	Duncan	2	5	0	1

Edited by behindthepen, 11 April 2008 - 09:43 AM.

[jayhoz]

I hope the Sox bring their patience to the plate again tonight. Say it with me "if it's low let it go".

Sox v. Wang

	PA	AB	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	BB	SO	BA	OBP	SLG
Kevin Youkilis	30	21	7	3	0	0	1	8	2	0.333	0.533	0.476
Jason Varitek	18	16	1	0	0	1	1	2	3	0.063	0.167	0.250
Manny Ramirez	26	22	13	0	0	2	5	4	3	0.591	0.654	0.864
Dustin Pedroia	10	10	4	2	0	0	1	0	0	0.400	0.400	0.600
David Ortiz	36	30	15	4	0	2	10	6	4	0.500	0.583	0.833
Julio Lugo	36	31	6	1	0	0	1	5	6	0.194	0.306	0.226
Jacoby Ellsbury	1	1	1	0	0	0	1	0	0	1.000	1.000	1.000
J.D. Drew	12	11	1	0	0	0	1	1	0	0.091	0.167	0.091
Coco Crisp	25	23	6	0	1	0	0	1	2	0.261	0.320	0.348
Alex Cora	18	18	5	0	0	1	4	0	0	0.278	0.278	0.444
Sean Casey	10	10	1	0	0	0	0	0	1	0.100	0.100	0.100

[behindthepen]

it looks like Capt Intangibles will sit out at least Friday night, and Posada only available as DH or PH http://sports.yahoo....a...t&type=lgns

I'll touch on Wang later.

[behindthepen]

WANG:
well, he's proven himself well enough that it's no longer fun to mock his low K-rate. He's almost as good as the yanks fans think he is.
Despite that, he has his weaknesses and the Sox have exploited them regularly.

Some pretty wicked splits.
-He's great vs. RHB, but only slightly above average vs. LHB.
-Batters get better through each PA.
-much worse with men on base.
-continues to be at the top in GB%.

Torre always kept him on a pretty tight pitch count (100 or less), and so far he's at 92 andf 96 this season.

The Sox have generally figured out, putting up some nice numbers against him for his career, which shouldn't be a surprise because they've seen him 10 times in the last 2 seasons. He did have one great start in ny last season in August, but otherwise he's been average to below-average.

For me, his most memorable start was the first ny game in '06, the Mirabelli (and Damon) returns game, where the wind knocked about 3 HR balls back into the park, but Papi finally won it by nailing one off of Mike Myers into Pap's glove in the bullpen.

Career and Splits

Year	BA	OBP	SLG	OPS	BAbip	BB%PA	K%PA	HR%PA	IP	ERA	sOPS+
2005	.256	.313	.370	.682	.267	6.6%	9.7%	1.9%	116	4.02	83
2006	.277	.320	.375	.695	.293	5.8%	8.4%	1.3%	218	3.63	82
2007	.265	.324	.368	.692	.296	7.2%	12.6%	1.1%	199	3.70	83
2008	.208	.269	.229	.498	.250	7.7%	15.4%	0.0%	13	1.38	39
Career	.267	.319	.368	.686	.288	6.5%	10.4%	1.3%
CAREER SPLITS
Bases Empty	.249	.303	.349	.653	.270	6.7%	10.9%	1.3%			90
Men On	.293	.341	.394	.736	.314	6.2%	9.7%	1.3%			114
--	BA	OBP	SLG	OPS	BAbip	BB%PA	K%PA	HR%PA	IP	ERA	sOPS+
LHB	.276	.329	.399	.728	.286	7.2%	7.8%	1.7%			112
RHB	.258	.309	.339	.648	.290	5.8%	12.8%	1.0%			89
--	BA	OBP	SLG	OPS	BAbip	BB%PA	K%PA	HR%PA	IP	ERA
1st PA	.241	.289	.328	.616	.267	5.9%	12.3%	1.0%
2nd PA	.262	.318	.373	.691	.281	7.0%	10.4%	1.6%
3rd PA	.298	.350	.404	.753	.315	6.7%	8.4%	1.3%
--	BA	OBP	SLG	OPS	BAbip	BB%PA	K%PA	HR%PA	IP	ERA
vs BOS	.292	.372	.431	.802	.306	10.6%	9.0%	1.9%
--	BA	OBP	SLG	OPS	BAbip	BB%PA	K%PA	HR%PA	IP	ERA

Starts vs. BOS

Date	Tm	Opp	Gm	Reslt	Dec	IP	H	R	ER	BB	SO	2B	HR	Pit	GmSc	Str
9/15/2007	NYY	@BOS	L	1-10	,L	5.2	9	5	5	3	3	2	0	97	31	59
8/30/2007	NYY	BOS	W	5-0	,W	7	1	0	0	4	5	0	0	103	76	63
6/1/2007	NYY	@BOS	W	9-5	,W	5.2	10	3	3	2	1	2	0	112	36	71
5/21/2007	NYY	BOS	W	6-2	,W	6.1	7	2	2	3	5	3	0	115	53	65
4/29/2007	NYY	BOS	L	4-7	,L	6	6	4	4	3	1	0	2	84	42	50
--
2006-09-16(1)	NYY	BOS	L	2-5	,L	5	9	3	3	1	3	5	0	87	39	54
2006-08-18(1)	NYY	@BOS	W	12-4	,W	6	7	3	3	4	2	6	1	90	44	49
6/6/2006	NYY	BOS	W	2-1	,W	7	8	1	1	2	2	0	1	109	57	70
5/22/2006	NYY	@BOS	L	5-9	,L	6	9	7	7	1	1	1	1	88	26	57
5/1/2006	NYY	@BOS	L	3-7		5	6	3	3	4	0	0	0	77	39	42
--
9/30/2005	NYY	@BOS	L	3-5	,L	6.2	4	5	3	6	4	0	1	104	48	54
Date	Tm	Opp	Gm	Reslt	Dec	IP	H	R	ER	BB	SO	2B	HR	Pit	GmSc	Str

[Smiling Joe Hesketh]

I'll add some more splits for Wang:

He's a Yankee Stadium pitcher: 2.97 ERA at home in his career, 4.62 on the road. Last year it was even more pronounced: 2.75 vs. 4.91.

He allows batters a 636 OPS at home compared to a 748 mark on the road.

Whether this is because the Yankees grow the grass tall for his starts or other factors no one knows.

We've talked endlessly about his K rate and at this point it's fair to say he's not a fluke, that he has been effective with low K rates and that he probably will continue to be so. His K rate has actually crept up a up over the past 3 years, from 3.14 to 4.70 to 5.54 this year.

[behindthepen]

another tidbit. The ny-KC game didn't end til midnight our time last night, so we should finally be on the right end of a bad travel schedule.

[gcapalbo]

Something someone alluded to in the game thread last night-- both of these games seemed to have been a lot shorter in duration of play (rain delay notwithstanding) than last year.

Not just a feeling, it's true.

I took a quick look back at last year's box scores from April 2007, and none of the games played last April were under 3 hours. Both of the games in this season are shorter by at least 20 minutes, to up to an hour.

Friday 2:59
Saturday 2:49 (plus 2:11 rain delay)

April 20th, 2007 3:18
April 21st, 2007 3:26
April 22nd, 2007 3:34
April 27th, 2007 3:56
April 28th, 2007 3:25
April 29th, 2007 3:11


Are we seening the effect of a Joe Torre-less Yankee team? Is it just the that the ABs have gone quickly, or is Girardi making fewer in-game adjustments, managing in-game 'less' than Torre did?

[rembrat]

Something someone alluded to in the game thread last night-- both of these games seemed to have been a lot shorter in duration of play (rain delay notwithstanding) than last year.

Not just a feeling, it's true.

I took a quick look back at last year's box scores from April 2007, and none of the games played last April were under 3 hours. Both of the games in this season are shorter by at least 20 minutes, to up to an hour.

Friday 2:59
Saturday 2:49 (plus 2:11 rain delay)

April 20th, 2007 3:18
April 21st, 2007 3:26
April 22nd, 2007 3:34
April 27th, 2007 3:56
April 28th, 2007 3:25
April 29th, 2007 3:11


Are we seening the effect of a Joe Torre-less Yankee team? Is it just the that the ABs have gone quickly, or is Girardi making fewer in-game adjustments, managing in-game 'less' than Torre did?

I wouldn't say it's anything that Girardi is or isn't doing. You just chalk it up to two great pitching performances from both sides of the field.

Wang went the full 9. He faced the minimum 7 out of 9 innings. The highest amount of pitches he threw in an inning was his last one with 15 pitches. He got through 4 innings by throwing 8, 9, 7 and 9 pitches respectively . It was a brilliant performance.

Beckett on Saturday was phenomenal for the first 5 innings. He looked untouchable. He faced the minimum 4 out of his 7 innings (actually 6.2). He got through the 4th by only throwing 6 (!) pitches and prior to that he got through the 3rd with 9 pitches.

And tonight's match up also looks like either pitcher could dominate.

[TheYellowDart5]

Something someone alluded to in the game thread last night-- both of these games seemed to have been a lot shorter in duration of play (rain delay notwithstanding) than last year.

Not just a feeling, it's true.

I took a quick look back at last year's box scores from April 2007, and none of the games played last April were under 3 hours. Both of the games in this season are shorter by at least 20 minutes, to up to an hour.

*snip*

Are we seening the effect of a Joe Torre-less Yankee team? Is it just the that the ABs have gone quickly, or is Girardi making fewer in-game adjustments, managing in-game 'less' than Torre did?

At the pace tonight's game is on, I think your question's gonna be a bit irrelevant by tomorrow morning.

[gcapalbo]

At the pace tonight's game is on, I think your question's gonna be a bit irrelevant by tomorrow morning.

Yes, that felt like the 'old days' of appropriately excruciating, tension filled evening of Red Sox-Yankee baseball.

However-- how much of that was brought on by the cold?

Both starters had to throw a lot of pitches early, and there were some very long ABs. Dice-K looked only slightly less shaky than Hughes. I think both pitchers had a hard time gripping the ball last night.

Seems like this series was very hard on the Yankees. According to this article in the NYT this morning Molina pulled a hammy mid-game-- hence the 'steal any base' situation once Posada came in-- and they need to call up a AAA catcher.

Same article says their bullpen is wasted as well? How is that possible really after Wang threw the complete game on Friday, they used Mussina and two relievers on Saturday, and three relievers last night-- with no reliver the entire weekened named Rivera or Chamberlain?