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#1 SplendidlySplitHer

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Posted 03 December 2007 - 01:30 AM

I know I am a n00b here, but I believe that it has gotten to the point that this guy needs his own thread. It seems as though we may be lined up with at least 1-2 Hankisms every month and some of them are so delicious that they can overshadow the content of the actual news that his quotes revolve around. He actually reminds me of the character that Larry David played on Seinfeld.

Perhaps in order to keep threads from being sidetracked, we could keep this thread going? If not, mods, then take me as I am and do what you want with me.

Anyways, onward we go:


"I'm not going to be played against the Red Sox. That's not something I'll do. That's not something the Yankees should ever do, and that's I think what they're trying to do now," Yankees senior vice president Hank Steinbrenner said Sunday. "So if they want the best offer that has been offered to them, then they need to make up their minds."

So basically, Hank appears to be insinuating that the Yankees are too good to ever engage in a bidding war with the Red Sox. Is this something he honestly believes? Will it affect his transactions in the future? If, in 2010, the Giants entertain a deal from the Sox for Lincecum, will Hank blow a gasket and refuse to enter negotiations? I doubt it, so what the hell is he trying to prove here?

More importantly, is it smart for Hank to treat teams he is currently negotiating with like he is treating the Twins now and to do so on a public forum? From many accounts, Theo is a guy that other GMs enjoy talking and working with. I honestly would not be surprised if Hank alienates himself within 5 years from the GM/ownership community. Obviously, that doesn't mean that the Yankees empire will crumble, but you do have to wonder if there will be teams that are less willing to negotiate with him in the future.

"We'll see how it goes, but this is not an act. It's not a bluff. It's just reality," he said. "Because as much as I want Santana, and you can make that clear -- for his sake, to know that I do want him -- but the fact is that I'm not going to play the game. We've made them the best offer. And at this point, it's not going to get any better. So they can decide. At this point, it's up to them. I don't think they want to lose us in this thing, obviously. Nobody wants to lose the Yankees in a negotiation."


This quote is pretty nonsensical. On the one hand, he has told the Twins that he is done negotiating. On the other hand, he claims that the Twins do not want to lose the Yankees in negotiations (nobody does) so they should just...accept his offer? Anyone?

"We need to get things straightened out, and not wait around for them to run back to Boston and back to us, and then back to Boston," he said. "I'm not going to do that."



Again, back to the point about alienating other GMs/owners. That's how baseball works, Hank. Haggling is the job of all GMs, including your own.

Oh, and He is not going to do that.

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These are but a taste of Hank to date. He's had gems on A-Rod not have a Yank-Rod out of the womb like Jeter, owning Scott Boras (who is currently negotiating the biggest contract in the history of sports with...Hank Steinbrenner), and I am sure that there are others I am forgetting.

I have to give the guy credit, though. He may not be the most schrewd businessman or the most well-spoken guy walking around, but he sure as heck is entertaining.

Love live Hank Steinbrenner and his glorious edicts! Let us be the scribes of his perpetual wisdom.

Edited by SplendidlySplitHer, 03 December 2007 - 01:33 AM.


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Posted 03 December 2007 - 09:35 AM

"Because as much as I want Santana, and you can make that clear -- for his sake, to know that I do want him -- but the fact is that I'm not going to play the game.


his use of "I" is particularly hilarious.

Hank, in one short month, has become the New York Yankees Incarnate. He is the Yankees. Hear him roar.

This doesn't end well for Hank, let me tell you that. I foresee a phone call to Hank from PR Guru Howard Rubenstein in which Rubesnstein will tell Hank that he needs to submit any comments to him prior to speaking with the media in any fashion.

Of course, Tweedle Hank might just fire Rubenstein.

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Posted 03 December 2007 - 09:37 AM

I'm just dying to hear from Cashman about everything that's gone down over the past month. He's hasn't said a peep...not even when they announced that Posada was coming back.

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Posted 03 December 2007 - 09:50 AM

I'm just dying to hear from Cashman about everything that's gone down over the past month. He's hasn't said a peep...not even when they announced that Posada was coming back.


Cashman's busy at his real duties making copies in the office mailroom.

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Posted 03 December 2007 - 09:54 AM

I'm telling you... Brian Cashman is going to make more money off his best-selling memoir than he will as a GM.

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Posted 03 December 2007 - 09:55 AM

What's funny about this whole Hank thing is, didn't he allegedly wanted no part in taking over the Yankees after his father just a few years ago, and only was pushed into it when Steve Swindal got booted out of the family? Now he postures to ARod that he only wants players who "want to be Yankees", and the Yankees are him, now, apparently.

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Posted 03 December 2007 - 09:59 AM

Hank: "If those Twins think they are going to do trade battle with us and the Sox, they got another thing comin'!"

Cashman: "But Hank, this is really standard trading procedure....."

Hank: "Enough with the fancy talk Brian, the adults are talkin' here."

Edited by jodyreeddudley78, 03 December 2007 - 10:04 AM.


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Posted 03 December 2007 - 10:21 AM

Gammons has been taking some shots at Hank lately...

So, as Hank Steinbrenner seethes, it comes down to whether or not the Twins' future is better suited with Ellsbury or Phil Hughes. We can learn on Santana and Cabrera soon, as in the next 48-72 hours.


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Posted 03 December 2007 - 10:39 AM

I'm telling you... Brian Cashman is going to make more money off his best-selling memoir than he will as a GM.


Yeah, but he is going to finish in second place to Theo on this one to. Theo's memoir will outsell Cashman's

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Posted 03 December 2007 - 10:49 AM

his use of "I" is particularly hilarious.

Hank, in one short month, has become the New York Yankees Incarnate. He is the Yankees. Hear him roar.

This doesn't end well for Hank, let me tell you that. I foresee a phone call to Hank from PR Guru Howard Rubenstein in which Rubesnstein will tell Hank that he needs to submit any comments to him prior to speaking with the media in any fashion.

Of course, Tweedle Hank might just fire Rubenstein.

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Yankees always pay a premium. This goes back to the Schilling debacle. The D-Backs wanted Nick Johnson and Alfonso Soriano while the Red Sox gave him up for a package that was headlined by Casey Fossum. The two packages weren't even close.

The D-Backs then said no to Wang and Cano for RJ, it wasn't enough. How about last year for Gagne? Texas wanted Melky and Ian Kennedy. Sox gave up a Class A prospect.

It's part of being the Yankees. But, if teams and agents are going to hold the yankees up for ransom, they are more inclined to walk away now.

I think the A-Rod thing went about right. He is getting about what the Yankees wanted to pay him. I don't know why you guys hate the fact the guy who owns the team is having an opinion. It is his team, his money. He can talk all he wants. He is Cashman's boss.

Anyhow, you can have Santana. You have to give 2 A prospects and then sign him for $150 million. That price is off the charts.

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Posted 03 December 2007 - 10:52 AM

How about last year for Gagne? Texas wanted Melky and Ian Kennedy. Sox gave up a Class A prospect.

It's part of being the Yankees.


Outside of some of your other history revision, this is especially wrong. The Red Sox only gave up an A ball prospect? Way to make your case...

#12 HCMarvel

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Posted 03 December 2007 - 10:55 AM

The D-Backs then said no to Wang and Cano for RJ, it wasn't enough. How about last year for Gagne? Texas wanted Melky and Ian Kennedy. Sox gave up a Class A prospect.


Huh? Didn't you get Randy for basically nothing? Vasquez, Navarro, and Halsey?

I mean Vasquez is a solid pitcher but everyone knew the yankees wanted to dump him.


This is the year Randy had the year before you got him:
35 starts, 245.2 innings, 177 hits, 88 runs, 44 walks, 290 strikeouts (!!) and a 2.60 era.

You got that for a banished Post-Damon Grand Slam Vasquez, the Admiral, and Navarro who is on his 4th organization and is barely good enough to play for Tampa basically.



Or if you don't like that one, how about Kevin Brown for Jeff Weaver, Yhency Brazoban and Brandon Weeden.
Brown coming off 2003-
32 starts, 211.0 innings, 184 hits, 67 runs, 56 walks, 185 ks, and a 2.39 era. Hindsight is 20/20 but you fleeced the dodgers there in theory.

Was the Schilling deal a steal for the Sox? Of course. But the Yanks have had their share too. I think part of the reason you're looking at the way you are is, and this is not meant as a snarky comment, but while Schilling has helped the Sox win two world series, Randy and Brown were kind of embarrasments for the yanks.

If Schilling had stunk, or gotten hurt, and Randy or Brown had led the yanks to #27 and #28, would you really be crying about what the yanks are asked to give up for them? Course not. Winning makes everything relative.

Edited by HCMarvel, 03 December 2007 - 11:05 AM.


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Posted 03 December 2007 - 11:11 AM

It's part of being the Yankees. But, if teams and agents are going to hold the yankees up for ransom, they are more inclined to walk away now.


did you ever wonder if a couple of the reasons why teams hold the yankees for ransom are:

1. they are often willing to cave in and overpay; and
2. other teams get so annoyed with the rantings of the Steinbrenners that they are inclined to screw them if they can?

I don't think a guy like Tweedle Hank spouting off about other teams and their GMs (which is what he's doing indirectly when he accuses MIN of playing him off the Sox and claiming that his offer is the best) is good for his team.

And let's add Bobby Abreu to the list of Yankee trades where they gave up nothing for a major upgrade.

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Posted 03 December 2007 - 11:13 AM

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Yankees always pay a premium. This goes back to the Schilling debacle. The D-Backs wanted Nick Johnson and Alfonso Soriano while the Red Sox gave him up for a package that was headlined by Casey Fossum. The two packages weren't even close.

The D-Backs then said no to Wang and Cano for RJ, it wasn't enough. How about last year for Gagne? Texas wanted Melky and Ian Kennedy. Sox gave up a Class A prospect.

It's part of being the Yankees. But, if teams and agents are going to hold the yankees up for ransom, they are more inclined to walk away now.

I think the A-Rod thing went about right. He is getting about what the Yankees wanted to pay him. I don't know why you guys hate the fact the guy who owns the team is having an opinion. It is his team, his money. He can talk all he wants. He is Cashman's boss.

Anyhow, you can have Santana. You have to give 2 A prospects and then sign him for $150 million. That price is off the charts.


This reasoning is so fundamentally flawed it isn't even funny. So let's get this straight. Major league teams with professional well respected GM's as a whole would rather hurt the Yankees than do what is best for their own team. This is absurd and actually reinforces the "self importance" label that Yanks fans are often tabbed with. Have some GMs maybe made some mistakes? Maybe? But the idea that the Yankees "always" overpay is a joke. What about Abreu? There are plenty of examples to the contrary not to mention that the idea that they are more concerned with "sticking it to the Yankees" than getting the best deal they can for their team is preposterous.

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Posted 03 December 2007 - 11:14 AM

And let's add Bobby Abreu to the list of Yankee trades where they gave up nothing for a major upgrade.


this might be the worst of all the recent ones. Yes it was a salery dump but:
The Yankees sent the Phillies 20-year-old minor-league shortstop C.J. Henry -- their No. 1 pick in 2005 -- (WHO EVERYONE KNEW WAS BLOCKED, OVER-RATED, AND NOW OF COURSE HE'S BACK IN THE YANKEE ORGANIZATION) and 27-year-old left-handed reliever Matt Smith. The Phillies also received minor league catcher Jesus Sanchez and right-hander Carlos Monasterios, while the Yankees took on responsibility for Abreu and Lidle's contracts.



Holy god was I mad about that one when it happened.

Edited by HCMarvel, 03 December 2007 - 11:14 AM.


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Posted 03 December 2007 - 11:14 AM

It's part of being the Yankees. But, if teams and agents are going to hold the yankees up for ransom, they are more inclined to walk away now.


Even if your hypothesis is remotely true, don't you think it's a small price to pay considering the huge competitive advantage the Yanks have in revenues/payroll etc.?

Can you provide a documented example of an agent holding-up the Yankees? It might also be fun to cite an example when the Yankees have " walked-away." Or is Santana ordeal the first such ( potential )" walk-away?" Perhaps the organization can incorporate in its mission statement the great line from the movie " Network:'"I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not gonna take it anymore!"

Edited by stephensjh, 03 December 2007 - 11:15 AM.


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Posted 03 December 2007 - 11:23 AM

Cashman's busy at his real duties making copies in the office mailroom.

I thought he'd be busy mucking the stables at Hanks horse farm

#18 splendid splinter

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Posted 03 December 2007 - 11:27 AM

Teams don't hold the Yankees up for ransom and then do deals with other teams for less. That's just silly, and presumes that GMs are willing to hurt their own club just so they can steer players away from New York. All these "Team X asked the Yankees for this, and did the deal with the Red Sox instead for that" examples ignore the most important point - what you ask for and what you are offered are almost always two different things. They may have asked the Yankees for the moon at the outset, but what did the Yankees offer in return? That's what determines whether the deal is made or not - the negotiation process. Comparing the beginning of one team's negotiation to the end of another's is pointless.

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Posted 03 December 2007 - 12:30 PM

Twins not thrilled with Hank's mouth (from La Velle E. Neal III )


A Twins official this morning confirmed that the club is not pleased with comments made by Yankees senior vice president Hank Steinbrenner about negotiations involving ace lefthander Johan Santana.

When asked if he thought the comments constituted tampering, the official replied, “We’re not happy. We’ll deal with this internally.'’

It’s unsure if the Twins will pursue tampering charges, but it’s definitely added even more spice to the Twins attempts to trade Santana.


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Posted 03 December 2007 - 12:40 PM

Twins not thrilled with Hank's mouth (from La Velle E. Neal III )
Tweedle Hank and Tweedle Hal

If there was ever any doubt that George is their father I think it has been settled. I think we have a rare family that carries the gene for bozoamine

The Society for Neuroscience held its meeting in the shadow of Disneyland this year, so perhaps it’s not surprising that the most talked-about paper concerned a mythical neuroactive substance called bozoamine.

According to University of Rochester anatomist David Felten and his satiric co-authors, this bizarre chemical has so far been found only in the brains of university administrators of Chairmanus incorruptus and other subspecies. Bozoamine’s primary function is to suppress the brain centers that control reasoning. It reaches its greatest strength when interacting with bombastin, a substance that produces “loud, self-important vocalizations.... and promises of far more than can ever be delivered.” The chemical structure of bozoamine includes several NO clusters, which may account for the typical administrator’s most common utterance. When treated with idiotic acid (ID), bozoamine is converted to its para-NOID form.

a. Recently, the chemical structure of bozoamine has been suggested as N-benzyl-3-methoxy-a-methylnorepinephdrine [Imigation 1, 99 (1985)]. As stated in the article, when treated with idiotic acid, bozoamine is converted to its para-NOID form. Assume the function of idiotic acid behaves like S-adenosylmethionine and its requires an enzyme known as phenol-O-methyltransferase for its activity. Draw the chemical structure for the para-NOID form of bozoamine.


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Posted 03 December 2007 - 12:44 PM

Twins not thrilled with Hank's mouth (from La Velle E. Neal III )
Tweedle Hank and Tweedle Hal


I can't imagine anything would come of this. When George Steinbrenner said he wanted Randy Johnson on the Yankees a few years ago, Selig said that statements like that were not considered tampering. Seems like Hank's comments are rather tame compared to what his father said back then.

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The guy is still an idiot for saying it though...

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Posted 03 December 2007 - 01:02 PM

I don't think the Twins think this is tampering (and Neal doesn't either).

I would imagine that the Twins are, however, annoyed to have Hank yammering on in public and basically saying:

"The Twins are using me and our pitchers are better than anyone's so if they don't want them they're stupid."

This is what Tweedle Hank is saying.

Why is anyone surprised that these things would upset the Minnesota front office? I think trash talk like Hank is spewing may not have an outwardly negative effect (e.g. the Twins take the Sox offer out of spite even if they think Hughes is better for them)... but I do think it can have absolutely zero positive effects. If the Twins are on the fence... Hank isn't doing himself any favors.

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Posted 03 December 2007 - 01:36 PM

I don't think the Twins think this is tampering (and Neal doesn't either).

I would imagine that the Twins are, however, annoyed to have Hank yammering on in public and basically saying:

"The Twins are using me and our pitchers are better than anyone's so if they don't want them they're stupid."

This is what Tweedle Hank is saying.


Hi-Dee Ho!
it's Mr. Hankee the true Christmas Poo (South Park reference)

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#24 Kilborne

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Posted 03 December 2007 - 02:32 PM

I have a good one!

Hank:
"I'm a horse trader, I'm a horse bettor, I'm a horse breeder. You learn a little something when you're in that business. If you can do horseracing, you can do baseball."

He's a horse breeder ... so of course he knows how to run a billion dollar baseball team!

See complete Post interview:

http://www.nypost.co...3113.htm?page=0

Edited by Kilborne, 03 December 2007 - 02:33 PM.


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Posted 03 December 2007 - 02:41 PM

I guess with SoSiaS (Son of...) shooting his mouth off uncontrollably, my question is whatever happened to Steve Swindal, George's former son in law and heir apparent? As entertaining as it is, Yankees fans must be scratching their heads, wondering how the hell things got MORE chaotic without George at the helm.

(edit: he's not listed herehere...but I can't find any news of him ever being fired.)

Edited by Buckner's Boots, 03 December 2007 - 02:50 PM.


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Posted 03 December 2007 - 02:48 PM

I guess with SoSiaS (Son of...) shooting his mouth off uncontrollably, my question is whatever happened to Steve Swindal, George's former son in law and heir apparent? As entertaining as it is, Yankees fans must be scratching their heads, wondering how the hell things got MORE chaotic without George at the helm.


George's daughter is divorcing him, so he's out.

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Posted 03 December 2007 - 03:00 PM

I guess Swindal was (is?) a general partner, not an actual employee...does that make sense? I'm not really up on the business structure piece of things. At any rate, it is surprising that Hank is doing all the blabbing, while Prince Hal (Executive VP and Treasurer, and thought for a long time to be the REAL heir to the throne) sits quietly in the back seat. Anything to this, I wonder?

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Posted 03 December 2007 - 03:17 PM

I guess Swindal was (is?) a general partner, not an actual employee...does that make sense? I'm not really up on the business structure piece of things. At any rate, it is surprising that Hank is doing all the blabbing, while Prince Hal (Executive VP and Treasurer, and thought for a long time to be the REAL heir to the throne) sits quietly in the back seat. Anything to this, I wonder?


Swindal was being groomed to be the Managing General Partner, but when his marriage came apart he was ousted. He is either in negotiations to sell his shares or has sold them already - haven't read anything lately so I forget the status.

This is apparently par for the course for the Steinbrenner family, since Swindal is the second in-law to get the boot from the partners after one of George's daughters gets tired of him. (I remember reading that the previous pretender to the throne is now a middle school principal in Florida.) The sons - Hank and Hal - either had no interest or were such incompetent boobs that they were never considered for a prominent role with the Yankee organization until Swindal's fall from grace left the ownership group with little choice.

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Posted 03 December 2007 - 03:30 PM

The sons - Hank and Hal - either had no interest or were such incompetent boobs that they were never considered for a prominent role with the Yankee organization until Swindal's fall from grace left the ownership group with little choice.


I recall reading something from around 1990 when SiaS was "banned for life" (laughing into his hand) that Hal was considered the future of the Yankees, and that Hank was just keeping his seat warm. Couldn't find it in subsequent Google searches, but it's in there somewhere.

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Posted 03 December 2007 - 04:58 PM

It will be interesting if the Yankees continue to negotiate with the Twins after the self-imposed deadline.

Hank will have made to "draw a line in the sand" statements and gone back on both of them. At that point, I don't think he will have any credibility. After the Arod deal, I doubt the Twins give him much credibility now.

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Posted 03 December 2007 - 04:59 PM

Carton and Boomer will have a field day with Hank after today. He makes his father sound like Gone With the Wind's Miss Melanie.

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Posted 03 December 2007 - 06:16 PM

It will be interesting if the Yankees continue to negotiate with the Twins after the self-imposed deadline.

Hank will have made to "draw a line in the sand" statements and gone back on both of them. At that point, I don't think he will have any credibility. After the Arod deal, I doubt the Twins give him much credibility now.



Nah - after a couple days, Johan will be traded to the MFYs for Hughes, Melky & Jackson. It will then be revealed that when the deadline passed, Hank was prepared to walk away - but the Twins called him personally and convinced him that after discussing it with their wives, they really wanted Johan to be a Yankee. It will also come out that if the Twins had only agreed to meet with him in person, he would have thrown in Tabata as well ...

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Posted 03 December 2007 - 06:26 PM

Nah - after a couple days, Johan will be traded to the MFYs for Hughes, Melky & Jackson. It will then be revealed that when the deadline passed, Hank was prepared to walk away - but the Twins called him personally and convinced him that after discussing it with their wives, they really wanted Johan to be a Yankee. It will also come out that if the Twins had only agreed to meet with him in person, he would have thrown in Tabata as well ...


don't forget the Oracle of Omaha, Warren Buffet, his steady hand and sound advice to the Twins brought them to their senses.

Edited by bankshot1, 03 December 2007 - 06:26 PM.


#34 The_Powa_of_Seiji_Ozawa

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Posted 03 December 2007 - 06:33 PM

Carton and Boomer will have a field day with Hank after today. He makes his father sound like Gone With the Wind's Miss Melanie.


Hank's plan B is to trade for Kobe Bryant.

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Posted 03 December 2007 - 07:15 PM

Twins not thrilled with Hank's mouth (from La Velle E. Neal III )




Tweedle Hank and Tweedle Hal

I actually feel bad for Hal in some ways. He hasn't done (or said) a thing and he gets lumped in with all of Hank's messes.

#36 The_Powa_of_Seiji_Ozawa

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Posted 03 December 2007 - 07:42 PM

I actually feel bad for Hal in some ways. He hasn't done (or said) a thing and he gets lumped in with all of Hank's messes.


Hank Steinbrenner gives a glimpse at what would have happened to the Corleone family if Fredo had taken over as the Don instead of Michael.

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Posted 03 December 2007 - 08:29 PM

I don't think the Twins think this is tampering (and Neal doesn't either).

I would imagine that the Twins are, however, annoyed to have Hank yammering on in public and basically saying:

"The Twins are using me and our pitchers are better than anyone's so if they don't want them they're stupid."

This is what Tweedle Hank is saying.

Why is anyone surprised that these things would upset the Minnesota front office? I think trash talk like Hank is spewing may not have an outwardly negative effect (e.g. the Twins take the Sox offer out of spite even if they think Hughes is better for them)... but I do think it can have absolutely zero positive effects. If the Twins are on the fence... Hank isn't doing himself any favors.


Ok, Mr. Hankee is a funny nickname. I was favoring Prince Hank because of the Shakespearian potential, but I've moved on. Mr. Hankee pleases me.

In a close negotiation, personal relations definitely can have an impact. Whether this turns into such a close negotiation is unknowable.

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Posted 04 December 2007 - 07:38 AM

Why should anyone care what Hank says? Has it even be revealed that he has duties beyond giving interviews to the New York Post?

He agreed with Girardi over Mattingly. He didn't cut off his nose to spite his face with A-Rod. He promises to keep the young pitching. Looks good to me.

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Posted 04 December 2007 - 10:41 AM

Why should anyone care what Hank says? Has it even be revealed that he has duties beyond giving interviews to the New York Post?

He agreed with Girardi over Mattingly. He didn't cut off his nose to spite his face with A-Rod. He promises to keep the young pitching. Looks good to me.



According to him, he's running the team. Of course what Hank says is relevent. And if you think he "looks good", you're not really paying attention. Exhibit A from this week: He pissed off the Twins royally with comments that border on tampering.

"Look, you can't hide in a room counting beans. If you're a leader you have to step up regardless if things are going positive or negative. Brian is the GM, but the owners have the final decision, because we're the only ones with a financial stake in the team. Corporations run better when the guy running the company has a big financial stake. Outsiders are the ones who don't do much, bail out and then take the golden parachute."
see http://sports.espn.g...r...&id=3127880 for the quotes.

The latest Hankee: "(The trade) is still something that we can't do. As far as I'm concerned, it's probably off." I love the "probably". His ultimatums are looking pretty silly.

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Posted 04 December 2007 - 11:05 AM

Hank Steinbrenner reminds me of that PR minister for Sadaam who kept saying that Iraq wasn't invaded and the whole thing was made up in Hollywood, as American tanks were clearly rolling by in the background.

Keep talking, lil' George, keep talking.

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Posted 04 December 2007 - 11:16 AM

here's another funny impression from that espn article:

The focus on the new administration brings an interesting, albeit early scouting report. Hank isn't just easier to reach than George, he appears to be more patient and benevolent, as well, promising the days of back-page threats and insults are over.


more patient? no back-page threats?

#42 Muzzy Fielder

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Posted 04 December 2007 - 01:01 PM

Ok, Mr. Hankee is a funny nickname. I was favoring Prince Hank because of the Shakespearian potential, but I've moved on. Mr. Hankee pleases me.

In a close negotiation, personal relations definitely can have an impact. Whether this turns into such a close negotiation is unknowable.


Having an awareness of South Park should lead one to favor the nickname. SiaS is one step above the South Park's Mr. Hanky, i.e. Mr. Hanky in a suit, that is a connection between nicknames and the name rhymes with Yankee.



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Posted 05 December 2007 - 12:24 AM

Oakland general manager Billy Beane has told teams he would need to be blown away to deal Haren. He would want a similar haul from the Yankees as the Twins asked for in exchange for Santana.

Steinbrenner called that price "ridiculous" and vowed: "It won't happen, not with us."

http://www.newsday.c...t-searchutility

#44 MannyRam

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Posted 05 December 2007 - 12:36 AM

Also from that Newsday article ->

Steinbrenner talked about returning the team to the dynasty days of 1996-2000 and outdoing the Red Sox, who have won two World Series in four years. Although the Yankees have spent plenty of money retaining their own free agents this winter, he had other avenues in mind.

"Our plan is to create a powerhouse," Steinbrenner said. "We plan to do that through the draft, through Latin America, through our scouting. That's the only way to do it to be consistent."



#45 billy ashley

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Posted 05 December 2007 - 07:44 AM

Also from that Newsday article ->



haha, I love that his plan is to create a powerhouse: I bet you somewhere in the winter meetings Michael Bowden or some other GM of a lower market team is thinking "What a great plan! To think we've been doing to all wrong, our plan was to build a festering pile of shit!"

#46 Kitchkinet

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Posted 05 December 2007 - 07:49 AM

his use of "I" is particularly hilarious.

Hank, in one short month, has become the New York Yankees Incarnate. He is the Yankees. Hear him roar.

This doesn't end well for Hank, let me tell you that. I foresee a phone call to Hank from PR Guru Howard Rubenstein in which Rubesnstein will tell Hank that he needs to submit any comments to him prior to speaking with the media in any fashion.

Of course, Tweedle Hank might just fire Rubenstein.

I must agree. Hank definitely is not his father's son. This is a complete 180 from how George would have handled this.

The day may come when we see demonstrations against him. Just like in Pittsburgh this past year, and in Tampa Bay a few years ago against Vince Naimoli.

Hank needs to grow a pair and get back into the battle.

#47 Muzzy Fielder

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Posted 05 December 2007 - 11:26 AM

"Our plan is to create a powerhouse," Steinbrenner said. "We plan to do that through the draft, through Latin America, through our scouting. That's the only way to do it to be consistent."

Let's look at the '96 team:

Girardi 31yr. old free agent
Mariano Duncan 33 yr. old free agent
Boggs 35 yr. old free agent
Tino Martinez, Mecir, Nelson for Sterling Hitchcock and Russ Davis.
Ruben Sierra for Danny Tartabull
Paul O'Neill for Roberto Kelly
Strawberry 33 yr. old free agent
Tim Raines for Blaise Kozeniewski
Charlie Hayes for Chris Corn
David Cone 33yr. free agent
Jimmy Key 32 yr old free agent
Kenny Rogers 31 yr old free agent
Dwight Gooden 31 yr old free agent
Wetteland for Fernando Seguignal and cash
Boehringer for Assenmacher

Several prospects being dealt and many free agents added to the squad.

#48 xjack


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Posted 08 December 2007 - 10:49 PM

His younger brother, Hal, is actually the one his father appointed chairman of the Yankees' parent company.

Hal is the smart quiet one who actually knows how to run a business. Eventually, he's going to have rein Fredo ... er Hank ... in.

#49 SplendidlySplitHer

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Posted 08 December 2007 - 10:54 PM

His younger brother, Hal, is actually the one his father appointed chairman of the Yankees' parent company.

Hal is the smart quiet one who actually knows how to run a business. Eventually, he's going to have rein Fredo ... er Hank ... in.


It's kind of like the Bush family. Hopefully, for our sake, it will have the same results.

#50 buck77

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Posted 09 December 2007 - 04:20 AM

Please, leave Bush out of it. The same results? There's no death and destruction in baseball. It's just a sport, not a war.




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