The quality "up there" isn't much better. In a comment above, some soul noted a discussion "up there" on defensive metrics. Right, those things that don't for a moment account for elemental physics, such as where Train B [the fielder] was positioned when Train A [the ball] left the station, and never mind the feeble attempt to measure velocity as if this was some girl's rear end and so it's hard, medium and soft. If some can't see the utter absurdity of the current fielding metrics now all the rage, well, then they belong down here in the sandbox.
Which brings me to my next point, rise above it, or in this case, below it. The very notion of a "sandbox" is both arrogant and insulting, and rather likely to not succeed. There's a reason why some say set the expectation high so that some others might rise and live the expectation. And so if you get little children here, what should you expect, I mean, you gave the children a sandbox to play in, yes?
And, Ed, you are taking yourself and this site way too seriously. Analysis of what? A game that literally means nothing? You have some relation to a member of the organization? Stand to make some money by association with the organization? If neither, then you might as well check out the gross monthly sales of your nearest McDonald's, compare them to all other outlets, and then proclaim your local outlet the best of the McDonald's league. Some are called fans, as in fanatics, as it isn't exactly rational to cheer and root for, and become depressed over, an entity merely because it happens to be located in your town, especially when you aren't also rooting for the local McDonald's as well. And so, Ed, if it isn't "we", then why do you care?
And "reactionary"? Next thing I know, the one will be saying that I'm a Dodgers-Rays running dog capitalist lackey. But don't worry about things reactionary, well, maybe, if you take that word literally, and so I'm planning my own revolution and just as with Luis Taruc, I'm using Edgar Snow's Red Star Over China as an instructional text for the cadre. The pink asshat nation is first on the list of intended insurgent targets, though we might let Beej, Longo, Carlos, CC, and Co. work the insurrection for us. And for the one asshat on the main board, Mr. Iwamura has rather obviously changed both his approach and his swing since coming to America [if you had bothered to view his approach and swing while appearing at the plate while playing in Japan for the now Tokyo Yakult Swallows] and so call him a slap-happy singles hitter all you like, but it seems that he has a penchant for hitting balls high off and over that pathetic green monstrosity in your little puke of a ballpark.
Whatever elegance and intelligence that some otherwise claim can be seen existing elsewhere, well, even if I conceded the notion to be true, such truth is reduced to insignificance by the commentary on the game threads. If you're going to police the pink asshat nation, well, when the notions expressed by some here are read in connection with the game thread comments, the argument for integrity might as well be made by your average producer of pornographic motion pictures for all the credibility [none] that it has.
Lastly, just as with Biko so too with me, and so after my "banning" I'll pass by every now and again, looking for the thread from the adults, or their children, entitled, what asshat thought it a good idea to combine two numbers with differing scales for purposes of analysis? Think OPS, as OBP is 0-1.0 while SLG is 0 to 4.0. And, yeah, I understand the notion of "correlation", problem is, it isn't "causation", and so the fact that height is the best fit line on the chart for wealth in America is hardly consolation for your 6'2'' African-American female. And did I mention the correction for all-time, as if some could figure out just how it would have all played out had the height of the mound not changed, the ball not changed, no 'roids and HGH and who knows what else, and for the tie-in here, one might liken here and now to that period of the game when the numbers were skewed because some, the adults, believed that some others were less than, children they called them, and so some excluded some others from a shared participation by relegating them to their own box to play in. Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose.
Before someone more intellectually capable and acerbically funny responds to this, let me address your treatise by paragraph (and it took some time to attempt to decipher each):
#1: If they (we) could, they (we) would, but they (we) can't, so they (we) do the best possible. No one takes fielding metrics as absolutes, but rather as indicators.
#2: I, for one, am glad that there is a "sandbox", because especially of late (and then, perhaps playoff-related), it has proven to be where the neighborhood cat takes a whiz. I don't want my kid eating that sand, and I don't think the folks who have put an absurd level of intellectual content on this site want to have to continually scoop out the litter box.
#3: Baseball is a game that many folks embrace precisely because they have no financial interest in or direct economic benefit resulting from. It is an escape from our daily lives.
#4: I have no idea what you are talking about. Really. And I was a history major before I got in the real world.
#5: Game threads are there for a purpose. Assessing the intellectual quality of the comments there is the equivalent of me assessing your eloquence immediately after I kick you in the nuts or vagina.
#6: If this is where you are coming from, comparing your aforementioned plight with SoSH with Biko and his struggles is particularly weak in myriad ways. With respect to statistics, there are metrics that adjust for many factors across eras, and there are people far, far smarter than I working on refining these measures. I, for one, truly enjoy the game even more than I thought humanly possible because of these comparative statistics.
Why don't we all endeavor to raise the level of dialogue and analysis? There is really only one rule: don't suck. It is a good idea to peruse many different threads to understand what does suck, because the dopes and mods do a decent job of letting those who do know.
Edited by Freddy Linn, 16 October 2008 - 01:51 AM.