Magic number is at 5 right now.
Oh yeah, and I'll go back to what always works: hot naked chicks
Edited by Marbleheader, 25 September 2007 - 07:41 AM.
Took out NSFW stuff pending thread's fate
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5 votes
9/25 And now back to your regularly scheduled nonDCHONG winning
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Posted 24 September 2007 - 11:49 PM
After dutifully allowing DCHONG to take over my game thread, I'm back bitches and its time to win the division.
Magic number is at 5 right now.
Oh yeah, and I'll go back to what always works: hot naked chicks
Magic number is at 5 right now.
Oh yeah, and I'll go back to what always works: hot naked chicks
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Posted 25 September 2007 - 12:16 AM
You're really having a difficult time with this game thread thing, aren't you?
Williams Head Case started the game thread for today about a half hour ago.
Williams Head Case started the game thread for today about a half hour ago.
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Posted 25 September 2007 - 12:23 AM
You're really having a difficult time with this game thread thing, aren't you?
Williams Head Case started the game thread for today about a half hour ago.
Was at work - and figured I'd have rights since I got DCHONGed. Don't really care.
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Posted 25 September 2007 - 12:29 AM
Was at work - and figured I'd have rights since I got DCHONGed. Don't really care.
This is a decision for a DOPE!!!
Calling all Skrubs!
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Posted 25 September 2007 - 07:35 AM
Skrub said in the last thread that ook had next, which seems fair since he started the last one before DCHONG.
Don't think NSFW and game threads mix though. What say ye?
Sorry, ook. DCHONG has the ball. You can have next one (if they lose again, that is).
Don't think NSFW and game threads mix though. What say ye?
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Posted 25 September 2007 - 07:36 AM
We very specifically and publicly said no more NSFW game threads at least two years ago. That hasn't changed. I have no feeling one way or the other on game thread protocol, but the NSFW has to go.
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Posted 25 September 2007 - 08:32 AM
A poll over at the NY Daily News has 62% saying the Yankees will win the AL East.
Win it to prove them wrong.
Win it for pride.
Win it for home field advantage.
Win it to stop the Yankees 9-year streak.
Win it because it is the right thing to do.
Win it for G38, in case he is not back next year.
Win it for Katie (my little sweetie), who has never lived when the Sox were division champs.
Win it because we will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed, or numbered.
Win it to prove them wrong.
Win it for pride.
Win it for home field advantage.
Win it to stop the Yankees 9-year streak.
Win it because it is the right thing to do.
Win it for G38, in case he is not back next year.
Win it for Katie (my little sweetie), who has never lived when the Sox were division champs.
Win it because we will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed, or numbered.
Edited by dauber23, 25 September 2007 - 08:34 AM.
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Posted 25 September 2007 - 08:50 AM
Who the hell is Katie, and why should anyone win anything solely for her benefit? Stop being so selfish.
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Posted 25 September 2007 - 09:01 AM
I'd like to see G38 pitch well tonight and hopefully solidify his status as the Sox #2 starter in the playoffs.
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Posted 25 September 2007 - 09:04 AM
I like the "petty squabbling over who should start the game thread and what is the game thread protocol anyway?" I am unoriginal and unfunny. Please put me out of my misery. It's got legs.
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Posted 25 September 2007 - 10:49 AM
I'm all about the greed.
I want the division.
I want the best record.
Win now, win this week and rest the players on Sat and Sun after we've clinched the east.
WIN.
I want the division.
I want the best record.
Win now, win this week and rest the players on Sat and Sun after we've clinched the east.
WIN.
Edited by Gator's '88 MVP, 25 September 2007 - 10:52 AM.
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Posted 25 September 2007 - 12:11 PM
For what it's worth, YES broadcasters spent more time discussing the Red Sox approach to the Division/Wildcard in the late innings of Friday and Saturday's game than the NESN crew spends talking about anything related to baseball. New York does not want the wild card. They want the division. TOO BAD. I'm hoping the kid from Haverhill has a good series against the "boys from NY. 4 is better than 5 and 3 is even nicer. WIN
Edited by Sleepy108, 25 September 2007 - 12:18 PM.
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Posted 25 September 2007 - 01:12 PM
G38 led them to a WS, now he will lead them to a Division title. Let's go, G38 - this is your time of year! Time for everyone to turn it back on. Time for some offense to back Curt up. Time for some good old-fashioned ass-kicking.
GO SOX - WIN TODAY!
GO SOX - WIN TODAY!
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Posted 25 September 2007 - 01:39 PM
9/25/07--Jose Doesn't Want to Bug You But…
It’s time for Jose Melendez’s KEYS TO THE GAME.
1. Will you people give it a rest? Stop accosting Red Sox players and coaches in elevators, at hotels and, worst of all, in restaurants and asking them for autographs. You’re better than that. Well, many of you are anyway. The Globe today put a spotlight on this irritating practice, and made it as plain as a Cleveland Browns helmet that prefacing one’s intrusion by saying “I don’t want to bug you but…” does not make it okay.
First, of all, you do want to bug them. You do. If you didn’t want to bug them, you would leave them alone.
Second, if “I don’t want to bug you but…” offered one absolution from the sin about to be committed, it would be most easily attained indulgence since the wrong side of the reformation. Think about the words that could follow that qualifier; it works for everybody.
Robbers: I don’t want to bug you but… I’m going to have to ask you to give me your wallet.
Vice Presidents: I don’t want to bug you but… I’m going to be keeping you in a secret prison for a while and hooking electrodes up to your private parts.
Atlanta Falcons Quarterbacks: I don’t want to bug you but… but I’m going to have to electrocute that dog.
Telemarketers: I don’t want to bug you but… I thought you should know about this amazing offer.
Pro Wrestlers: I don’t want to bug you but… would you mind if I hit you in the head with a chair?
Spammers: I don’t want to bug you but… have you ever wanted longer more powerful sexual experiences?
Supervillains: I don’t want to bug you but… I kind of need the Earth’s molten core for a personal project. You’re cool right?
Chinese manufacturers: I don’t want to bug you but… we’ve been inadvertently poisoning your children.
Negligent surgeons: I don’t want to bug you but… I should probably let you know that we amputated the wrong leg.
See anyone could use it for any nefarious reason, so let’s just agree that “I don’t want to bug you but…” should not be used ever.
So if you see a Red Sox star at a restaurant, don’t go up to him and say “I don’t want to bug you but… could I get your autograph?” If you really don’t want to bug him, either don’t go up at all, or just go up and as for a bite of his food.
According to National Public Radio, a San Diego couple has been doing a social experiment just going up to people in restaurants and asking for a bite of their food. The overwhelming majority of the time, not only do the diners consent, they offer up a bite with their own fork.
Why be a nuisance and ask for Doug Mirabelli’s autograph when you could get a bite of his chicken parm? And who needs David Ortiz’s signature when you could have some of his beans and rice off his very own fork, tainted with his very own saliva?
Asking for a taste is no big deal, and you should do it whenever you see a pro athlete or other celebrity out eating.
2. Remember those “Where’ Waldo?” books. Jose could usually find Waldo in the books even though he is pretty sure he has never found anyone named Waldo in real life. (Note: Waldo is in Kansas. It is a city with 48 residents.) Still, they were kind of fun. And it is in this spirit that Jose presents an actual KEYS TO THE GAME contest.
Jose will be hidden somewhere in Fenway Park tonight. If you are the first person to find him, Jose will send you an authentic, American-made, wash-and-wear, lead paint-free, low-carb KEYS TO THE GAME thong.
But how will you find Jose? It will be easy. He will be the guy in the Red Sox shirt. (Note: But seriously, you’ll know Jose when you see him.)
All you have to do is be the first person to come up to Jose and say “Jose give me a thong.”
At which point, whoever it is that you’ve talked to will give you a quizzical look and punch you in the face.
Happy hunting!
(Note: Members of the Melendez family and “real life friends of Jose are ineligible for this contest. If you guys want a KEYS thong that bad, just ask.)
For KEY 3, a repudiation of Third KEYS, visit http://keystothegame.blogspot.com/
It’s time for Jose Melendez’s KEYS TO THE GAME.
1. Will you people give it a rest? Stop accosting Red Sox players and coaches in elevators, at hotels and, worst of all, in restaurants and asking them for autographs. You’re better than that. Well, many of you are anyway. The Globe today put a spotlight on this irritating practice, and made it as plain as a Cleveland Browns helmet that prefacing one’s intrusion by saying “I don’t want to bug you but…” does not make it okay.
First, of all, you do want to bug them. You do. If you didn’t want to bug them, you would leave them alone.
Second, if “I don’t want to bug you but…” offered one absolution from the sin about to be committed, it would be most easily attained indulgence since the wrong side of the reformation. Think about the words that could follow that qualifier; it works for everybody.
Robbers: I don’t want to bug you but… I’m going to have to ask you to give me your wallet.
Vice Presidents: I don’t want to bug you but… I’m going to be keeping you in a secret prison for a while and hooking electrodes up to your private parts.
Atlanta Falcons Quarterbacks: I don’t want to bug you but… but I’m going to have to electrocute that dog.
Telemarketers: I don’t want to bug you but… I thought you should know about this amazing offer.
Pro Wrestlers: I don’t want to bug you but… would you mind if I hit you in the head with a chair?
Spammers: I don’t want to bug you but… have you ever wanted longer more powerful sexual experiences?
Supervillains: I don’t want to bug you but… I kind of need the Earth’s molten core for a personal project. You’re cool right?
Chinese manufacturers: I don’t want to bug you but… we’ve been inadvertently poisoning your children.
Negligent surgeons: I don’t want to bug you but… I should probably let you know that we amputated the wrong leg.
See anyone could use it for any nefarious reason, so let’s just agree that “I don’t want to bug you but…” should not be used ever.
So if you see a Red Sox star at a restaurant, don’t go up to him and say “I don’t want to bug you but… could I get your autograph?” If you really don’t want to bug him, either don’t go up at all, or just go up and as for a bite of his food.
According to National Public Radio, a San Diego couple has been doing a social experiment just going up to people in restaurants and asking for a bite of their food. The overwhelming majority of the time, not only do the diners consent, they offer up a bite with their own fork.
Why be a nuisance and ask for Doug Mirabelli’s autograph when you could get a bite of his chicken parm? And who needs David Ortiz’s signature when you could have some of his beans and rice off his very own fork, tainted with his very own saliva?
Asking for a taste is no big deal, and you should do it whenever you see a pro athlete or other celebrity out eating.
2. Remember those “Where’ Waldo?” books. Jose could usually find Waldo in the books even though he is pretty sure he has never found anyone named Waldo in real life. (Note: Waldo is in Kansas. It is a city with 48 residents.) Still, they were kind of fun. And it is in this spirit that Jose presents an actual KEYS TO THE GAME contest.
Jose will be hidden somewhere in Fenway Park tonight. If you are the first person to find him, Jose will send you an authentic, American-made, wash-and-wear, lead paint-free, low-carb KEYS TO THE GAME thong.
But how will you find Jose? It will be easy. He will be the guy in the Red Sox shirt. (Note: But seriously, you’ll know Jose when you see him.)
All you have to do is be the first person to come up to Jose and say “Jose give me a thong.”
At which point, whoever it is that you’ve talked to will give you a quizzical look and punch you in the face.
Happy hunting!
(Note: Members of the Melendez family and “real life friends of Jose are ineligible for this contest. If you guys want a KEYS thong that bad, just ask.)
For KEY 3, a repudiation of Third KEYS, visit http://keystothegame.blogspot.com/
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Posted 25 September 2007 - 02:26 PM
by the way - Fat Billy from Ohio scratched again.
The Flying Monkey Igawa to start.
The Flying Monkey Igawa to start.
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Posted 25 September 2007 - 02:42 PM
Huh?Per EEI, Manny back in the lineup, batting 2nd.
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Posted 25 September 2007 - 02:50 PM
Things are unfolding exactly as they should. Manny's back. I'm reminded of a song:
Ain't Wastin' Time No More
Gregg Allman
Last Sunday morning, the sunshine felt like rain.
The week before, they all seemed the same.
With the help of God and true friends, I've come to realize,
I still have two strong legs, and even wings to fly.
So I, ain't a-wastin time no more.
Cause time goes by like hurricanes, and faster things.
Well, Lord, Lord, Miss Sally, why all your cryin?
Been around here three long days, lookin like we're dyin.
Go step yourself outside, and look up at the stars above,
And go on downtown, baby, find somebody to love.
Meanwhile, I ain't a-wastin time no more.
Cause time goes by like pouring rain, and much faster things.
You don't need no gypsy to tell you why,
Ya can't let one precious day to slip by.
Well, look inside yourself, and if you don't see what you want,
Maybe sometimes then ya don't,
But, leave your mind alone and just get high.
Well, by and by, way after many years have gone,
And all the war freaks die off, leavin us alone.
We'll raise our children, in the peaceful way we can,
It's up to you and me brother,
To try and try again.
So, hear us now, we ain't wastin time no more.
Cause time rolls by like hurricanes.
Runnin after the subway train.
Don't forget the pourin rain.
Ain't Wastin' Time No More
Gregg Allman
Last Sunday morning, the sunshine felt like rain.
The week before, they all seemed the same.
With the help of God and true friends, I've come to realize,
I still have two strong legs, and even wings to fly.
So I, ain't a-wastin time no more.
Cause time goes by like hurricanes, and faster things.
Well, Lord, Lord, Miss Sally, why all your cryin?
Been around here three long days, lookin like we're dyin.
Go step yourself outside, and look up at the stars above,
And go on downtown, baby, find somebody to love.
Meanwhile, I ain't a-wastin time no more.
Cause time goes by like pouring rain, and much faster things.
You don't need no gypsy to tell you why,
Ya can't let one precious day to slip by.
Well, look inside yourself, and if you don't see what you want,
Maybe sometimes then ya don't,
But, leave your mind alone and just get high.
Well, by and by, way after many years have gone,
And all the war freaks die off, leavin us alone.
We'll raise our children, in the peaceful way we can,
It's up to you and me brother,
To try and try again.
So, hear us now, we ain't wastin time no more.
Cause time rolls by like hurricanes.
Runnin after the subway train.
Don't forget the pourin rain.
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Posted 25 September 2007 - 02:53 PM
Manny Ramirez returns to the lineup today. He will be hitting second against the A's.
Today's lineup
1. Dustin Pedroia, 2B
2. Manny Ramirez, LF
3. David Ortiz, DH
4. Mike Lowell, 3B
5. J.D. Drew, RF
6. Jason Varitek, C
7. Coco Crisp, CF
8. Eric Hinske, 1B
9. Julio Lugo, SS
Coco over Jacoby sucks...but it was to be expected
Today's lineup
1. Dustin Pedroia, 2B
2. Manny Ramirez, LF
3. David Ortiz, DH
4. Mike Lowell, 3B
5. J.D. Drew, RF
6. Jason Varitek, C
7. Coco Crisp, CF
8. Eric Hinske, 1B
9. Julio Lugo, SS
Coco over Jacoby sucks...but it was to be expected
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Posted 25 September 2007 - 02:58 PM
Jacoby will be in there for the later innings. I fully expect Manny to be rusty, but it'll be good to see him back in there. Should be a nice ovation.Manny Ramirez returns to the lineup today. He will be hitting second against the A's.
Today's lineup
1. Dustin Pedroia, 2B
2. Manny Ramirez, LF
3. David Ortiz, DH
4. Mike Lowell, 3B
5. J.D. Drew, RF
6. Jason Varitek, C
7. Coco Crisp, CF
8. Eric Hinske, 1B
9. Julio Lugo, SS
Coco over Jacoby sucks...but it was to be expected
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Posted 25 September 2007 - 03:27 PM
Manny Ramirez returns to the lineup today. He will be hitting second against the A's.
Today's lineup
1. Dustin Pedroia, 2B
2. Manny Ramirez, LF
3. David Ortiz, DH
4. Mike Lowell, 3B
5. J.D. Drew, RF
6. Jason Varitek, C
7. Coco Crisp, CF
8. Eric Hinske, 1B
9. Julio Lugo, SS
Coco over Jacoby sucks...but it was to be expected
I'm not enjoying the Eric Hinske era.
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Posted 25 September 2007 - 03:36 PM
And now... in Left Field... the one... the only... Manny Ramirez!
Edited by 86spike, 25 September 2007 - 03:41 PM.
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Posted 25 September 2007 - 03:56 PM
The boys in Foxboro say: 38, 38, 38!
Go get 'em, G38!
(Y'all realize that one of these games is gonna be Schill's last at Fenway... let's go out guns a-blazin', G!)
Go get 'em, G38!
(Y'all realize that one of these games is gonna be Schill's last at Fenway... let's go out guns a-blazin', G!)
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Posted 25 September 2007 - 04:51 PM
by the way - Fat Billy from Ohio scratched again.
The Flying Monkey Igawa to start.
The Yankees must not want to win the division. The Rocket should put some duct tape on his hammy (and super glue on his elbow) and go out there and try to win the division. No?
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Posted 25 September 2007 - 04:55 PM
Wounded players returning for the stretch, pitchers taking their last tune-up starts...I missed this stuff so much last year. And I can't believe this is really the last week of the regular season. Where'd all the time go? 
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Posted 25 September 2007 - 04:57 PM
I was thinking about that todayWounded players returning for the stretch, pitchers taking their last tune-up starts...I missed this stuff so much last year. And I can't believe this is really the last week of the regular season. Where'd all the time go?
Life's going to suck a whole lot more when baseball season is over with
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Posted 25 September 2007 - 05:03 PM
We've got weeks and weeks and weeks to go.Life's going to suck a whole lot more when baseball season is over with
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Posted 25 September 2007 - 05:06 PM
On the pregame, Tina just said that Youks will play tomorrow.
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Posted 25 September 2007 - 05:38 PM
In related news Clemens is a Pussy and will not pitch until the postseason.
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Posted 25 September 2007 - 05:39 PM
Sox are a post season lockI'm excited.
Manny and Youks are back
Schilling on the mound
Clemens done for the regular season
Goodtimes
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Posted 25 September 2007 - 05:42 PM
Oki with a good side session and set to pitch ThursdaySox are a post season lock
Manny and Youks are back
Schilling on the mound
Clemens done for the regular season
Goodtimes
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Posted 25 September 2007 - 05:42 PM
Twenty minutes until I take my Macbook over to my TV - plug in the cables and open up parallels so I can crank up MLB.TV. Its my last day off during the regular season so nothing is getting in the way of this game.
Damn, I forgot the beer. Time to run to the store.
Damn, I forgot the beer. Time to run to the store.
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Pretty Gaudin Awful Since the Break
| Date | Opponent | Score | Dec | IP | H | R | ER | HR | BB | K | W | L | SV | IP | ERA | |
| Sep 18 | SEA | L 7-8 | L | 4 | 8 | 8 | 3 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 11 | 12 | 0 | 187.1 | 4.52 | |
| Sep 13 | TEX | W 6-5 | W | 6 | 8 | 3 | 3 | 1 | 2 | 8 | 11 | 11 | 0 | 183.1 | 4.47 | |
| Sep 8 | @ TEX | L 3-7 | L | 3.2 | 10 | 6 | 6 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 10 | 11 | 0 | 177.1 | 4.47 | |
| Sep 3 | @ LAA | L 5-9 | L | 5 | 8 | 7 | 6 | 2 | 2 | 3 | 10 | 10 | 0 | 173.2 | 4.25 | |
| Date | Opponent | Score | Dec | IP | H | R | ER | HR | BB | K | W | L | SV | IP | ERA | |
| Aug 28 | TOR | L 4-5 | - | 7 | 5 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 4 | 5 | 10 | 9 | 0 | 168.2 | 4.06 | |
| Aug 23 | @ TAM | W 12-2 | W | 7 | 5 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 2 | 10 | 10 | 9 | 0 | 161.2 | 4.12 | |
| Aug 18 | KAN | L 3-7 | L | 6 | 10 | 5 | 5 | 2 | 3 | 5 | 9 | 9 | 0 | 154.2 | 4.25 | |
| Aug 13 | @ DET | W 7-2 | W | 6.2 | 4 | 2 | 2 | 0 | 2 | 9 | 9 | 8 | 0 | 148.2 | 4.12 | |
| Aug 7 | @ TEX | L 6-8 | L | 5 | 8 | 7 | 7 | 1 | 3 | 7 | 8 | 8 | 0 | 142 | 4.18 | |
| Aug 2 | LAA | L 4-6 | L | 6 | 7 | 5 | 5 | 2 | 3 | 3 | 8 | 7 | 0 | 137 | 3.88 | |
| Date | Opponent | Score | Dec | IP | H | R | ER | HR | BB | K | W | L | SV | IP | ERA | |
| Jul 28 | @ SEA | L 3-4 | L | 8 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 2 | 1 | 7 | 8 | 6 | 0 | 131 | 3.71 | |
| Jul 23 | @ LAA | W 12-6 | - | 3.2 | 6 | 5 | 5 | 1 | 6 | 4 | 8 | 5 | 0 | 123 | 3.66 | |
| Jul 17 | TEX | L 4-11 | L | 6 | 8 | 5 | 5 | 0 | 6 | 4 | 8 | 5 | 0 | 119.1 | 3.39 | |
| Jul 12 | @ MIN | L 2-6 | L | 4 | 6 | 5 | 5 | 0 | 5 | 2 | 8 | 4 | 0 | 113.1 | 3.18 |
Enough of this 'letting Edwin Jackson cruise for 5 or 6 innings' crap. Knock this guy around.
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Posted 25 September 2007 - 06:00 PM
Coco a late scratch due to illness, per the Globe/Pregame. Ellsbury in CF, of course.
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Posted 25 September 2007 - 06:00 PM
Ellsbury now in the lineup, Coco out
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Posted 25 September 2007 - 06:01 PM
Oh what a shame.....Coco a late scratch due to illness, per the Globe/Pregame. Ellsbury in CF, of course.
I guess this means that Kielty will replace Manny in LF then
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Posted 25 September 2007 - 06:02 PM
Oh what a shame.....
I guess this means that Kielty will replace Manny in LF then
That'd be my guess, although Moss is still alive, right?
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Okay. Ellsbury base hit, Manny sac bunts him over, Papi gets him home.
September at the Fens!
September at the Fens!
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Posted 25 September 2007 - 06:12 PM
The thing is Coco is still clearly superior in CF when compared to Ellsbury. I would expect that Ellsbury will catch up with experience, but for right now Coco gets much better reads in the field.
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Posted 25 September 2007 - 06:12 PM
bad Schill is back
Edited by kartvelo, 25 September 2007 - 06:13 PM.
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Posted 25 September 2007 - 06:13 PM
That's not a great way to start a "tune up."
