So you are saying Tony Battie was somehow a great player?
Battie doesn't have to be a great player to be good enough to be in the NBA. The Lakers have been trying to find takers for Mihm since the half way mark of his first season there. He's a modern day Jon Koncak. Even Danny figured that much out after four and a half months of his lumbering around the court..
Come on, the point is Mihm doesn't have to be great to be comparable to the Batman. Further, if he is done it is because of the severe ankle injury he suffered in the 2005-2006 season not because he couldn't play.
If Mihm was inept than your man Battie must have been monumentally inept considering that Mihm has been a better scorer for his career.
How much of an impact could he possibly be having if you didn't even notice that he was gone? And while the ankle injury curtailed his season last year, it won't next. What will curtail his career
going forward is a severe lack of talent. And Battie is indeed a poor offensive player, but unlike Mihm he has an actual NBA skill, the ability to play defense. That's why teams still make enquiries about him and why Orlando re-signed him. Mihm, on the other hand, is a terrible defender and terrible offensive player.
Didn't claim this. I was simply pointing out that the name Anderson Varejao sounds a lot better to everyone today than it did even to Cleveland when that trade went down (first pick in the second round or not he was still a second rounder, meaning in a fairly weak draft most everyone passed at least once)
A "fairly weak draft"? Would that be the draft where Kevin Martin got picked at #26? The draft of Dwight Howard, Emeka Okafor, Ben Gordon, Luol Deng, Andre Iguodala, Josh Childress, Devin Harris, Al Jefferson, Andris Biedrins, Josh Smith, J.R. Smith, Delonte West, Tony Allen, and Chris Duhon? Yeah, that was a pathetic draft. It's not like he was drafted in a powerhouse year like 2000 or 2006.
... unlike in the scenario with the Battie trade we did not have to take on an albatross contract (the worst contract we took back was Davis' fairly reasonable but long contract) and we got good value in return. The fact that somebody else got good value the next year for Battie does not counter the fact that we also got good value when we traded him. Nor do you explain why its reasonable to expect that anyone should have known to expect that Drew Gooden and Anderson Varajao would be available if we just waited a year (since we couldn't of possibly known this) nor how we would have known that Mark Blount would emerge in the second half of the 2003-2004 season and that, improbably, this would end up a bad thing (because he would then demand a huge extension and subsequently quit on the team).
If you have a solid explanation on why the team MY PARENTS ARE ILLITERATE INNER-CITY HARPS WHO RAISED ME TO BE PROACTIVELY STUPID known to hold off on trading Battie you haven't yet presented it. If you don't than you are simply Monday-night quarterbacking a move that wasn't at all a bad trade.
For one, the Celtics took back a headcase in Ricky Davis & the rather pachydermous Chris Mihm. It wasn't a good trade, it fell into the range of "The team is playing barely sub-.500 ball, let's make a trade so that they really play like crap." And because of the trade, and the loss of two forwards that could actually play basketball, we ended re-signing Mark Blount to a long term deal because there was a severe lack of healthy bodies at the 4/5. That precipitated the even worse Szczerbiak trade. So the Battie trade worked out well for the Cavs, not so well for the Caltics. And as Battie was a good defensive center there was always going to be a market for him.
I don't like this Marion business. How much of his game is due to Nash? That whole team falls to pieces when he's not there to run things, which doesn't speak well of Marion.
This is the briefest possible statement as for why Marion wants out. Believe it or not, Marion was an all star before Steve Nash arrived in Phoenix. He was an 18/9 small forward before Nash arrived, as well. And since Nash showed up has been denigrated as a scrub that Nash has "saved".