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[SoxScout]

BC beating St. Micheal’s 45-23 at half.



BC win 102-62. Dudley 26 pts 19 (10! off) reb. Also, welcome Ty Rice.

Edited by SoxScout, 13 November 2005 - 08:56 PM.

[BCSoxFan]

You suck.

I just got home from the game all jonesing to start the 2005-06 BC Basketball thread and I see this?

Damn.

First look at the Freshman guard tandem. Small but talented. Rice has a funny looking shot and neither one of these kids is a Troy Bell type athlete but they look solid and neither one looks too shy, especially Rice.

Jared was everywhere tonight. Craig, not so much. Hard to tell much against St Mike's who were just ridiculously overmatched athletically.

Marshall took advantage of his athletic advantages too and hit a couple of threes (and missed a few more) and generally played very well.

Oates has a nice stroke and seems to like that 15 foot baseline jumper. He looks soft but he played a lot of minutes and was pretty active. Again, hard to evaluate against such crappy competition. He did start though with Akida in civvies.

Basketball season has started. Sweet Jesus, it's about time.

Edited by BCSoxFan, 13 November 2005 - 09:42 PM.

[Eagle3]

"Three high-school standouts - 6-foot-3-inch guard Daye Kaba, 6-foot-7-inch forward Tyler Roche and 6-foot-6-inch forward Shamari Spears - have signed national letters of intent to play basketball at Boston College"

Early BC Signings

Does anybody know anything about any of these guys? Is there anybody highly regarded here, or is Skinner still looking for diamonds in the rough like usual?

[BigMike]

"Three high-school standouts - 6-foot-3-inch guard Daye Kaba, 6-foot-7-inch forward Tyler Roche and 6-foot-6-inch forward Shamari Spears - have signed national letters of intent to play basketball at Boston College"

Early BC Signings

Does anybody know anything about any of these guys?  Is there anybody highly regarded here, or is Skinner still looking for diamonds in the rough like usual?

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Spears is a great HS player. He was ranked higher his younger years, and has dropped some because he hasn't added the few extra inches of height teams would have wanted. Basically he is an awesome 6'5" power forward. he plays in a very competative league and dominates it.

Roche is a big time shooter. 6'7 and supposedly a great stroke. the best player in New hampshire last year, and will be again this year. Supposed to be a pretty goos athlete as well.

Daye Kaba is supposed to be a solid combo guard. He is from France, and apparently hasn't played AAU and some of the showcases to really drive his value up. He plays at a big time basketball school in NY which plays a killer schedule

[SoxScout]

One of my roommates is big into basketball recruiting and there are a lot of big time prep schools up here in central NH. Tyler Roche was the best player I saw last year and he's a public school kid.

Some players we saw last year:
Chad Millard, L'ville
Weyinmi Efejuku, PC
Jeff Adrian, Uconn
Alfred Aboya, UCLA
Justin Dentmon, Wash

Edited by SoxScout, 17 November 2005 - 07:12 PM.

[CWiggum]

So I stumble in slightly drunk last night and see the SI sitting on the kitchen counter, and I think I see BC in their pre-season top 10, but it must be a mistake.

Wake up this morning, and low and behold it wasn't a beer induced hallucination. Pre-season polls are meaningless, especially in hoops, but nonetheless it was nice to see them getting some early recognition.

[SoxScout]

BC wins their opener 80-61

BOSTON COLLEGE (80)
                           fg    ft    rb
                    min   m-a   m-a   o-t   a  pf   tp
C Smith             37  6-13 10-11   3-9   2   3   22
J Dudley            36   4-8   4-4  2-10   3   1   12
J Oates             19   3-3   0-0   0-3   0   4    7
L Hinnant           36   5-8   0-1   0-3   5   1   12
S Marshall          31  6-13   0-0   3-4   3   0   15
M Haynes            15   1-3   0-2   1-1   3   0    2
T Rice              23   3-7   1-2   1-2   1   0    8
T Neville            1   1-1   0-0   0-0   0   0    2
T Dunlap             1   0-1   0-0   0-0   0   0    0
E Neisler            1   0-0   0-0   0-0   0   0    0
_____________________________________________________
TOTALS             200 29-57 15-20 10-32  17   9   80
_____________________________________________________
Percentages: FG-.509, FT-.750. 3-Point Goals:
7-21, .333 (J Dudley 0-3, J Oates 1-1, L
Hinnant 2-3, S Marshall 3-6, M Haynes 0-2, T
Rice 1-5, T Dunlap 0-1). Team Rebounds: 4.
Blocked Shots: 3 (C Smith, S Marshall, T
Rice). Turnovers: 9 (L Hinnant 3, J Dudley 3,
C Smith 2, J Oates). Steals: 2 (C Smith, J
Dudley).
-----------------------------------
DARTMOUTH            30  31   -  61
BOSTON COLLEGE       41  39   -  80
-----------------------------------
Technical fouls: None. A: 5,758. Officials: Brian
Dorsey, Dwayne Gladden, Tim Kelly

Edited by SoxScout, 18 November 2005 - 09:27 PM.

[BCSoxFan]

Went to the game last night. Right now, we are not a very deep team with essentially two freshman guards as our entire bench. And when Oates sits, we are very small. I thought the fatigue showed, especially in the second half. Team defense was very poor, especially away from the basket. The thing is, the Dartmouth big guys would move away from the hoop, our guys would follow them and then they would be totally out of position when the green moved the ball back to the paint. I don't know how many offensive rebounds Dartmouth got, but I suspect it was quite a lot.

Tyrese Rice came back to earth a bit though he played okay. Took too many shots. Vega's game story today implies we started getting the ball more to Smith in the second half. But for the first ten plus minutes of the second half, Craig didn't score and had very few touches. It was only late when Dartmouth cut it to 8 that Smith started seeing the cookie. And he had a couple of MAN moves and dunks.

Oh, and did you notice his free throw line? Looks like he's retooled that FT shot (which he needed to do) and he looks very comfortable at the stripe.

Oates played pretty well too with all of his points being memorable - one very nice tranition pull up three. The dude can shoot the ball. Very soft touch.

Marshall looked good too in the first half but he was on the bench quite a bit in the second half I thought. Not sure why. Louis asserted himself on the offensive side nicely but it was over a small stretch of time.

We need Williams and McClain back quickly. And we need to improve overall team defense. Jared played that annoying roaming deefense where he fixates on the ball and tries to get cute playing away from his man. It burned us often - but it also left him in position to pad his rebounding stats. Thought those were misleading - not his finest effort.

Still, I like this team. We should be able to do some damage. Shawnee State (Div II) tomorrow afternoon. Then Buffalo Tuesday night.

Last thing - the crowd for a season opener against an Ivy league team was outstanding. The students have been moved to the red seats behind the hoop and they were out in force last night and they were loud - particularly early when our defensive intensity was actually very good. If we keep having success, the crowds at Conte will be loud and a very big plus for the team. When's the last time we could say that consistently? (hint: never)

[SoxScout]

70-51 win over Sahwnee

Dudley: 18 and 9
Marshall: 14 and 8
Smith: 14 and 13

[BCSoxFan]

Well, this game made the Dartmouth game look like an excercise in intensity. Extremely lethargic on offense though the defense was a little better. Course, we were going up against a Division II NAIA team. At the ten minute mark of the first half, we were actually down a point (13 to 12 or 15-14 or something like that). The crowd was very sparse and kids who showed up in droves Friday night must have been at afternoon Mass. Went with the experimental rules - 3 point fg moved out a foot, paint extended a foot, and the NBA no-charge semicircle was in there as well.

We really didn't execute well at all out of the flex. Man, do we run that offense so tightly - essentially run around the paint in the key. Very little spacing (by design though). Settled for fade away jumpers early instead of powering it in.

Tyrese Rice continued to struggle, though he had a great transition alley oop to his classmate (Haynes who has serious ups). He also had a great drive down the lane, faked the kickout to the corner, his man bit big time and he laid in in - crowd ooed and aahed on it. But other than those two highlights, he still is fighting through learning the offense - he's too quick to pull up (0-3 from 3pt land) instead of running the offense. But he'll be fine. Just needs some polishing.

Frustrating to play so poorly against vastly inferior talent. But we got it done in the end with some nice inside basket/conventional 3 point plays by Dudley and Smith. The freshman guards need to step it up (and they both played 20+ minutes so they're getting good experience) and boy do we miss Nate's passing skills from the high post. Not to mention his defensive presence.

We'll be fine I hope. But I'll tell you, I was steaming midway through that first half wondering how the hell this team is going to compete in the ACC - and you have Craig talking about the Final Four in the paper getting way ahead of himself.

We just play so small. You should have seen the way the Shawnee State big man posted up Oates. He catches the ball about 5-7 feet from the hoop and then backs Oates in and turns around and scores a layup right over him. Now, the kid was a big dude, maybe an inch taller than Oates and much wider, but it was so easy for him. Imagine what Sheldon Williams would do to him? I can't repeat enough how much we need Sean Williams and frontcourt help. Craig is a tremendous rebounder, especially in traffic (and he had a ton of MAN rebounds this afternoon) but he can be overpowered defensively too.

Buffalo Tuesday night at 7pm. Hope to see some improvement.

[Lose Remerswaal]

Well, this game made the Dartmouth game look like an excercise in intensity.  Extremely lethargic on offense though the defense was a little better.  Course, we were going up against a Division II NAIA team.  At the ten minute mark of the first half, we were actually down a point (13 to 12 or 15-14 or something like that).  The crowd was very sparse and kids who showed up in droves Friday night must have been at afternoon Mass.  Went with the experimental rules - 3 point fg moved out a foot, paint extended a foot, and the NBA no-charge semicircle was in there as well.

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Not sure why, but my nephew is in town from college and wanted 1 ticket to today's game and the ticket office told him on Wednesday that "they didn't know if they could get him a ticket." Eventually they did, but it seemed like they didn't want to sell them for a few days, for whatever reason.

[BigMike]

Not sure why, but my nephew is in town from college and wanted 1 ticket to today's game and the ticket office told him on Wednesday that "they didn't know if they could get him a ticket."  Eventually they did, but it seemed like they didn't want to sell them for a few days, for whatever reason.

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This game was officially part of the Las Vegas Classic, or whatever the name is. It is a 4 game tournament, with BC playing the first 2 at Conte, and then the final 2 games in Las Vegas.

Because it was part of a tournament it made the ticket situation a bit weird. I heard at one point thy were only selling books of tickets to all 4 games.

[Eagle3]

We just play so small.  You should have seen the way the Shawnee State big man posted up Oates.  He catches the ball about 5-7 feet from the hoop and then backs Oates in and turns around and scores a layup right over him.  Now, the kid was a big dude, maybe an inch taller than Oates and much wider, but it was so easy for him.  Imagine what Sheldon Williams would do to him?  I can't repeat enough how much we need Sean Williams and frontcourt help. 

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The thing that jumped out of the boxscore was getting out-rebounded 43-38 by a Div II school. Even if the starters didn't play much in the second half that should never happen. I totally agree about Sean Williams. I think the people doing the pre-season rankings are assuming he will be playing. The Sports Illustrated write up had him in the starting lineup and a good chunk of the article was about him. But it's far from a given he will be back, and they drop quite a few notches without him.

[Dave Stapleton]

But it's far from a given he will be back, and they drop quite a few notches without him.

Everything I've heard has indicated this pretty much IS a given. So long as he doesn't do anything stupid before now and then ... look for him back before the end of December.

Looking forward to seeing the team in person tomorrow evening.

[Alacoldart]

College polls have BC ranked in the top 10, number 10 to be exact, in the country. Of course it's early yet, but that's a marked improvement from their ranking (or lack thereof) from last year.

Must be the new conference.

[Eagle3]

Everything I've heard has indicated this pretty much IS a given.  So long as he doesn't do anything stupid before now and then ... look for him back before the end of December.

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I hope you're right, but I'm curious where you've heard that. Everything I've read says he can't come back before January, and in this Globe Article they were talking Feb 1 was the earliest he could come back due to legal issues. I've also read a few times that Skinner says it's not in his hands. Do you have more recent info?

[BCSoxFan]

I hope you're right, but I'm curious where you've heard that.  Everything I've read says he can't come back before January, and in this Globe Article they were talking Feb 1 was the earliest he could come back due to legal issues.  I've also read a few times that Skinner says it's not in his hands.    Do you have more recent info?

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Yeah - that article by Vega was discredited pretty quickly. I don't have the link but Al has subsequently been quoted more than once as saying that Sean can be reinstated (assuming logistics) as soon as 1) his semester at University of Houston is over and 2) the BC first semester is over. Al even said something along the lines of, "He can start here as soon as the first semester is over but I'm not sure when that will be because it will depend on when his classes are over at Houston."

He needs to pass his courses at Houston, apply for reinstatement at BC and be accepted. Assuming he passes his tests - and his mother has posted on a message board (hah!!! who can trust those things!!) that he's doing well and while he was only mandated to take 2 classes, he's actually taking three - and also assuming the reinstatement process is rubber stamping and expedited, I'm assuming he'll be back with the team by the end of December.

BC finals end Dec 20th so if he had all his Houston stuff taken care of and he gets reinstated, that would mean he could have 4 non-conference games to get ready for the resumotion of our ACC schedule at Georgia Tech on January 8th (he obviously misses the only other ACC game at MD Dec 11th). That includes games against URI and UMass I believe.

If I come across the links verifying that, I'll post.

[Rasputin]

Nice to see us kicking the shit out of buffalo.

[BCSoxFan]

Buffalo was awful. Absolute ton of turnovers in the first half that we took advantage of. Marquez was the first guard off the bench tonight and Tyrese came in and manned the point. Once again, we were down at the 16 minute timeout. But the two freshmen led us back - stepped up the defense and Tyrese had two three pointers. They both played much better tonight than in the first two games.

Craig went down in the beginning od the second half with a cut over his eye and had to go into the trainer's room. He picked up his second foul and sat the last few minutes of the first as well, so his minutes were down. But he played well when he was in there. As did Dudley and in the second half Marshall.

Louis looked pretty lethargic. Especially on defense. But he had a couple of nice offensive moves too.

We were up 23 in the first half and the game was pretty much a circus from there. Buffalo played hard and their early defense was effective - and once again our execution of the flex was pretty bad.

Which isn't good because the competition steps up from here. We have Drake and ex-BC coach Dr Tom Davis Friday night. Drake is even smaller than we are but they'll play Dr Tom's typical up-tempo and pressure defense game so we better be ready with our two deep bench.

Hopefully, we get through and get to play Oklahoma State. Then we have Sacred heart, Michigan State (at MSG) and at Maryland. So we'll know a lot more about this team in the next two weeks.

Akida McClain was not on the bench tonight. Not sure why. And Digger Phelps was in the house. Is he still working at ESPN? Haven't seen him yet this year. He was in civvies and cut out early.

Nice easy blow out tonight. Just what I like.

[Dave Stapleton]

Wow ... game was sloppy as far as running the offense goes but they still shot almost 60%.

The one thing I noticed last night is that Rice has some real skills and by the end of the season should be an upgrade over Watson from last year. Looked more comfortable at the point.

If this team gets back Williams it is a legit top 10. The early play that Oates is getting will pay dividends later on when he is coming off the bench to spell Smith and hopefully Williams later in the season.

Katz has something on ESPN Insider about Williams return. Don't have access but seems to imply that his return is not certain.

[BCSoxFan]

Wow ... game was sloppy as far as running the offense goes but they still shot almost 60%.

The one thing I noticed last night is that Rice has some real skills and by the end of the season should be an upgrade over Watson from last year.  Looked more comfortable at the point.

If this team gets back Williams it is a legit top 10.  The early play that Oates is getting will pay dividends later on when he is coming off the bench to spell Smith and hopefully Williams later in the season.

Katz has something on ESPN Insider about Williams return.  Don't have access but seems to imply that his return is not certain.

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Well, Rice is going to be used at the point - his game isn't really comparable to that of Hot Sauce. Jermaine was a 2 guard, big and strong, good defender, good slasher, excellent rebounder. He brought us high energy off the bench. Rice is more like an upgrade over Stevie Hailey who was a poor shooter and not nearly as good as he thought he was. Stevie was pretty good at finding Craig (much better at that than, say, the Bird who relied on Nate to make the entry pass) but he played out of control much of the time and dribbled himself into situations he often couldn't get out of.

Oates really needs to bulk up and concentrate on his defense. He's getting pushed around down low by some pretty mediocre competition. He does seem to have decent basketball instincts but he's a huge downgrade from Nate's contribution last year even though he's probably a little better shooter than Nate was. It's too bad Akida can't get on the floor - though Isuspect his defense won;t be much better than what we're getting from Oates. However, Akida has a better nose for the ball and is a better (particularly offensive) rebounder.

Katz' article simply stated that the process of Williams' reinstatement has already started because it will take a while. It really didn't tell us much that we already didn't suspect but I'dsay on balance is was a net positive in that they must have sen enough progress from Sean that they are already starting the reinstatement logistics. He confirmed what I speculated earlier about the Dec 20th semester break so I was happy to see that.

We need to see these two guards and Oates or McClain develop and we need Sean back and then hopefully we can make some noise in March. Man, that would be great.

[BCSoxFan]

Dr Tom tonight - the real McCoy. Remember, our game against Wisc-Milwaukee in the Tourney last year was a gainst a team coached by his disciple. Tonight we face the man.

It should prove interesting - especially since we're gonna have to listen to Teddy so we won't know WHAT the hell is going on. Good times!

[BigMike]

I couldn't get the audio feed tonight, but sounds like a great game.

Dudley just sacks up again. The kid is simply a great college basketball player.

Very dissapointed BC could only get 6 shots for Craig. That needs to be addressed.

Huge effort from Rice, who along with Duds carried the Eagles in the second half.

Duds and Rice also money in the last minute at the line.

BC pulls it out 87-84. Not an impressive win, but a tough matchup against a very disciplined opponent. The 2 big men sitting and a nothing night from Craig, and they still hold on.

I'll take it. Hopefully this is a good sign. This was one of the toughest teams in the nation at the end of the game last year, hopefully that will be the case again this year

[Clears Cleaver]

And I thought Drake was a real cupcake.

Sorry, couldn't resist

[BigMike]

Wow another monster performance from both Rice and Dudley.

BC down 13 with about 10 minutes to play blows OSU off the court those last 10 minutes to win by 8 (76-68)

Smith with another poor performance. He is a first team All American and needs to do more.

Dudley throws up 24, and at one point scored 18 out of 32 points for BC.

Rice is just a major impact player, better than anyone could have projected

[Dave Stapleton]

Rice is just a major impact player, better than anyone could have projected

When I saw him in person it is obvious he has skills. Extremely quick good passer and obviously can shoot the ball. So long as he keeps the freshman mistakes to a minimum he is a huge factor on the offensive side of the ball.

Jared has been amazing this year (albeit against mostly inferior competition). Dare I say it .... Smith may not even be the best player on this team.

If this team gets back Williams ... they should be able to keep this thing going for a few years.

[BigMike]

Jared has been amazing this year (albeit against mostly inferior competition).  Dare I say it .... Smith may not even be the best player on this team.

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I thought Jared was the best player on the team last year. Of course you can say that craig makes it easier for Jared, and gices Jared the opportunity to roam, but Jared simply does more all over the court than Craig does. Jared plays defense, can bring the ball up, is one of the best passers on the team, can shoot the trey, and is simply money from the FT line.

By the way. Here is something from the NYTimes you have to click to believe.

NY Times

[doldmoose34]

I thought Jared was the best player on the team last year.  Of course you can say that craig makes it easier for Jared, and gices Jared the opportunity to roam, but Jared simply does more all over the court than Craig does.  Jared plays defense, can bring the ball up, is one of the best passers on the team, can shoot the trey, and is simply money from the FT line.

By the way.  Here is something from the NYTimes you have to click to believe.

NY Times

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thank god I finnished my coffee before clicking on that link

I just hope it dosen't jinx us

[Dave Stapleton]

That's pretty unbelievable. Just the fact that BC is being mentioned as a contender never mind picked to win the National Championship.

Lets hope that Skinner takes advantage of this in the Recruiting game.

[BCSoxFan]

I just got back after being away this weekend. Listened to Teddy for Game One and listened last night up until they went down 10 about 2 minutes into the second half. Couldn't take it anymore. Teddy is just the worst possible play by play guy and Bill Ebben is just as bad. First of all, Teddy bitches and moans and worries too much to be on top of the actual play by play plus both he and Ebben get the initial call wrong ALL the time. Finally, they talk through the free throws so you don't know if the guy hit the shots or not (and one time last night I swear they didn't identify the player on BC shooting the freebies, didn't say whether or not he'd made any shots and I didn't know that he hit both until the Eagles stopped OSU on their time down the court and Teddy started off the next BC possession with 'Eagles trail by two' - unreal).

Add to that a lifeless BC effort getting down 10 and it was simply too much for me to take. I went to bed thinking what a joke it was that Craig is a first team AA and seriously considering Hinnant's 4 years a massive disappointment becasue he hasn't shown a lick of intensity since his Freshman year and is now getting shamed on how to assert yourself by a freshman who aims to take his job. Lastly, I was thanking God that we weren't relying on Marquez Haynes to step in and be the man from jump street. I actually like Marquez and think by his senior year he has a chance to be very good but he's not the guy it looks like Tyrese will become - an offensive spark off the bench.

I like the team but Hinnant and Craig need to step up the intensity and Sean Marshall needs to stop driving me up a fricking wall jacking up those Xavier Singletary threes (and yes I can tell from the radio that they were bad shots so leave me alone!). I like Marshall closer to the basket or getting the ball to the bigs. I DO NOT like him jacking up threes - that, apparently, is Tyrese's job and we can't have two guys jacking up quick three's.

I am ecstatic with the win though and think it will look much better come March. Okie State is gonna get better especially when they pare down the 12 man rotation and let some guys play extended minutes.

The New York Times thing is just... well, (I went to BC during the lean years which is saying something for BC) I am just stunned by that. I think we have a legitimate chance to be considered a sleeper Final Four team but NC? That's just nonsense. Although the National field is considerably weaker this year than last, we're a good team who executes well when want to. But our backcourt is suspect and their decision making skills a bit ... let's call it "lacking." And when Smith doesn't get the ball he gets frustrated to the point where when he does get touches - and invariably he has to come away from the basket to get those initial touches - he forces shots and tries to draw fouls that he never seems to get. Now, he clearly settled down agaist Drake and was a one man wrecking crew for a stretch in the second half. Not exactly sure how he fared in the second half last night but it was a subpar performance.

Athletic teams that attack us will give us problems as we saw this weekend. We did a good job fighting that off and the none of the real good teams seem to play the style of play we just endured - so we have that going for us. I think we take apart finesse teams - we're much better suited that way and we'll see more of them in the ACC this year which is good.

Can't wait to see them in person again. 5-0 baby. Nice start.

Edited by BCSoxFan, 27 November 2005 - 07:25 PM.

[Lose Remerswaal]

Just remember that the NY Times owns 17% of the Boston Red Sox, and the Red Sox and BC Athletics are in a joint marketing venture, so that means that . . .

[Dave Stapleton]

Sean Marshall needs to stop driving me up a fricking wall jacking up those Xavier Singletary threes

I agree completely. There are now perimeter options so he should have more room to shoot the ball where he should. He's also a decent interior passer which he should now be able to do more of if the defense has to come outside a bit.

[Lose Remerswaal]

Just reading the game stories . . . this tournament was played in a 2500 capacity High School Gym?

What the heck is up with that? Why even have a tourney if you don't have a little atmosphere and lots of screaming fans?

[Rasputin]

Just reading the game stories . . . this tournament was played in a 2500 capacity High School Gym?

What the heck is up with that?  Why even have a tourney if you don't have a little atmosphere and lots of screaming fans?

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I think it's a new tournament they are trying to get going. They said during the Drake game that they tried to get it into some larger arena but there was some kind of clause that gave UNLV some veto rights that were excercised.

[Lose Remerswaal]

I think it's a new tournament they are trying to get going.  They said during the Drake game that they tried to get it into some larger arena but there was some kind of clause that gave UNLV some veto rights that were excercised.

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Nice planning on the part of the organizers, eh?

[Bleedred]

Where is the BC/Duke game this year? Regardless, if Duke is giving any less than 10 points to BC, it's the bet of the century.

[BigMike]

Where is the BC/Duke game this year?  Regardless, if Duke is giving any less than 10 points to BC, it's the bet of the century.

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It's at BC.

Let me see if I am reading you right. You are saying that it is the bet of the century that Duke beats BC by at least 10 points????

[Bleedred]

Correct

[Lose Remerswaal]

Went to my annual "BC vs some nobody (Sacred Heart)" game tonight, a few comments.

Oates impressed me. Hit a few straight on 3 pointers early, and was the Eagles leading scorer for awhile. Couldn't hit from the side, though. Got a few boards, could be a nice placeholder at C until Williams comes back. Definitely makes me forget Dornekamp, thank goodness!

Rice looked good as well. What Oates did for scoring in the first half, Rice did in the second, going on a mini 8 point run when Heart got within 8 (BC kep getting decent leads, and Heart kept getting 6 and 8 point runs to make things close. BC didn't really put it away until Dudley made 4 FT in a row (T and 2 on a PF) with 3 minutes left), to extend the lead.

Speaking of Dudley, he went scoreless in the first half (or nearly), but played better in the second half. Marquez Haynes also got a few minutes in each half, and Skinner emptied the bench in the final minute.

On defense, BC scared me. They figured out quickly that Sacred Heart was going to be shooting 3s as long as the Eagles would let them, so they started covering those guys better after the first 5-7 minutes, only to have Heart start taking it to the hoop. BC was pretty good at catching up to the first pass, but if Sacred Heart made 2 passes, the BC players were getting lost. A good inside passing team is going to eat up the paint against these Eagles, unless Williams and/or McLain come back and show some defensive skills.

And I love the "left right left right" shtick when an opposing player fouls out. Is this just a BC thing or is this everywhere?

Edited by Lose Remerswaal, 03 December 2005 - 09:32 PM.

[BigMike]

On defense, BC scared me.  They figured out quickly that Sacred Heart was going to be shooting 3s as long as the Eagles would let them, so they started covering those guys better after the first 5-7 minutes, only to have Heart start taking it to the hoop.  BC was pretty good at catching up to the first pass, but if Sacred Heart made 2 passes, the BC players were getting lost.  A good inside passing team is going to eat up the paint against these Eagles, unless Williams and/or McLain come back and show some defensive skills.

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Didn't get to see the game. Listened to it at points, and followed the game track.

I just don't worry to much about the Eagles during the early season. They just don't kill teams. It just isn't their style.

The defense will get better as the season goes on. They will defend the 3 better,and will obviously defend the middle much better what Sean gets back.

McLain is either back for MSU or Maryland, depend on who you listen to. He certainly has offensive skills to be a productive role player in the ACC, It will be interesting to see if his defense has improved. Supposedly he was looking much better in practice this year, apparently he was completely lost last year

[BCSoxFan]

On defense, BC scared me.  They figured out quickly that Sacred Heart was going to be shooting 3s as long as the Eagles would let them, so they started covering those guys better after the first 5-7 minutes, only to have Heart start taking it to the hoop.

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Louis was standing in concrete tonight - especially in that second half. Old friend Tavio Hobson was blowing by him like he was standing still (which much of the time he was). Just awful. And our off the ball defense continues to suck bad.

One thing I have liked about Al, though is that when the chips are down late, his teams (this one included) always do a good job executing - offensively and defensively. It helps to have a couple of options in Jared and Craig of course.

Speaking of Tavio, it was great to see him having success. He looked great tonight - terrific vision off the bounce. Not sure how many assists he had but he was getting in the lane, drawing the defender and dishing to the open man. We could have used him last year.

Haynes continues to show some major hops. Akida still in civvies. Globe says he'll be back for Maryland. Still unclear if he's back Wednesday for the Jimmy V in MSG.

Nice crowd tonight. Jared got a nice hand for his thousandth point. We are fortunate to have him - he's a great player, and the junk talking aside, seems like a good kid.

[BCSoxFan]

psssst - hey, let's keep this in the thread but no way we're the 6th best team in the country.

I kinda like this team and I particularly like the go to guys underneath when we absolutely need a basket but our medicore to at times poor guard play that is totally unreliable is our downfall and will probably bite us hard in March. It's too bad we couldn't get some good experienced guards to complement our cadillac frontcourt.

It's like the football team - we finally get a fast defense that can hit like hell and tackle and we pick this time to come up with a joker qb and the worst runningback tandem since (well last year I guess) the mid 80's.


edit: next thing you know, someone will tell me we're number ine in the rpi

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[dwevans24]

psssst - hey, let's keep this in the thread but no way we're the 6th best team in the country. 

I kinda like this team and I particularly like the go to guys underneath when we absolutely need a basket but our medicore to at times poor guard play that is totally unreliable is our downfall and will probably bite us hard in March.  It's too bad we couldn't get some good experienced guards to complement our cadillac frontcourt. 

It's like the football team - we finally get a fast defense that can hit like hell and tackle and we pick this time to come up with a joker qb and the worst runningback tandem since (well last year I guess) the mid 80's.
edit:  next thing you know, someone will tell me we're number ine in the rpi

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BC, you're usually so positive. Did Boise turn you around? Can't fathom why you'd be down on our boys before they play MSU and, most importantly, before we get back Akida and Sean.

Maybe my mind will get changed tomorrow night, but I expect us to be worthy of that top 10 ranking as the year progresses.

[SoxScout]

bad feeling about tonight. we need to really step up our play. jumpers need to fall.

[BCSoxFan]

bad feeling about tonight. we need to really step up our play. jumpers need to fall.

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Nah, we're the better team. Even with our mediocre guard play and hyped up All American.

We'll be fine. Mich State not very impressive.


Is Louis Hinnant the absolute worst on ball defender on the planet?

[BCSoxFan]

I'll tell you who has surprised me tonight so far (3:20 left in first half) is John Oates. He's played pretty well on both ends of the floor (again, so far).


1 for 8 from 3pt land (oh Marshall makes it 2 for nine - my jinx baby!)

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[Dave Stapleton]

Solid first half until the last minute. Hinnant is starting to make me very angry.

[BigMike]

Miserable first half all around, nice to see BC hanging right in there while playing poorly.

Smith certainly looks like he is in the best shape of his life. He must generate more contact where there is no call on the play than anyone in the country. He could easily shoot 18 free throws a night. He gets fouled almost every trip.

Good to see no BC foul trouble

I like Louis, but he has probably progressed less as a player than anyone Al has coached. Even sean Marshall has gotten better, but Hinnat really doesn't seem any better than he was 3 years ago

[BCSoxFan]

Solid first half until the last minute.  Hinnant is starting to make me very angry.

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Louis defends like the French

[Dave Stapleton]

Miserable first half all around, nice to see BC hanging right in there while playing poorly.

I think that's why I thought it was a solid half. BC's style serves it well even if they are not shooting well so long as they play with the proper intensity. Will be in almost any game.

Gotta love the Vitale hype machine now that we're in the ACC.