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[John Dopson]

I thought I'd start this in the interest of keeping things easier to read and apart from just the Pats and General Mock Draft threads. A place to comment on the picks as the draft moves along.

As far as news, no major outlet is reporting this but Tom Casale of Patriots.com is saying that Denver and Houston may have a trade.

It’s being reported that the Broncos and Texans have swapped first round picks, with Houston getting Denver’s second round selection as well. As PFW reported earlier in the day, the Broncos wanted to get up to 10 in case Adrian Peterson falls. With rumors circulating that Peterson may need surgery, the Broncos believe they will be able to get the star runner with the 10th overall pick. There are three players the Broncos are targeting here: Peterson, Patrick Willis and Amobi Okoye. But make no mistake about it, if Peterson is on the board when Denver picks, he will become a Bronco. Great trade for Denver. They are now guaranteed to get an impact player and that player could be the top rated running back in the draft.

The Broncos are also rumored to be interested in Calvin Johnson. However, now that they’ve given away their second round pick, I don’t think they have enough ammo to trade up to the second spot. The Lions are asking for a lot and with the number of teams trying to get Johnson, I don’t see the Broncos making it up that high. My guess is they sit at 10 and grab one of the three players mentioned above. Then again, Matt Millen is an idiot, so anything is possible. The more pressing concern for Patriots fans is that the Broncos could leave Saturday with either Calvin Johnson or Adrian Peterson.

Link to the story.

[SoxScout]

The original and greatest reality show of them all.

Two of my favorite days of the year... and hearing Belichick on WEEI saying, "Their are players that will be drafted in the first round tomorrow that we have rated as undrafted free agents" has me really excited.

Buckle up, it shall be as fun as always.

BTW, for shits and giggles... The trave vaule chart shows that the Broncos are giving up 1140 points (21 & 56) and the Texans are giving 1300 points (10).

Edited by SoxScout, 27 April 2007 - 04:05 PM.

[epraz]

That's a crazy Weis quote.

It makes sense that Houston didn't get value, trading down...this year it's a buyer's market to move up in the draft.

[SoxScout]

That's a crazy Weis quote.

It makes sense that Houston didn't get value, trading down...this year it's a buyer's market to move up in the draft.

Exactly, and might that be where Belichick finds value...?

He said on the radio today teams are offering to take 24 and 28 for an earlier 1st and a 2nd.

[Old Fart Tree]

"There are players that will be drafted in the first round tomorrow that we have rated as undrafted free agents.”

Translation: “We’ve got the chessboard out, and some of these other chumps are playing Whac-a-mole.”

I love this shit from Belichick.

[Spacemans Bong]

Jets draft blunders

Funny funny stuff. It's amazing how bad these picks are. I love that Tagliabue starts laughing after the Blair Thomas pick. He knew it was stupid.

Edited by Spacemans Bong, 27 April 2007 - 07:29 PM.

[Ahriman]

Jets draft blunders

Funny funny stuff. It's amazing how bad these picks are. I love that Tagliabue starts laughing after the Blair Thomas pick. He knew it was stupid.

Commish: "NY Jets select... Fullback....:

Fans: "OOOOOOOOOOH! OOOOOOOOOH NOOOOOOOOOOO!!111"

[Old Fart Tree]

Man, that Jets shit is funny. They just love going bonkers regardless of who they select.

[SoxScout]

Just heard that news in Detroit is saying that the Lions will take Johnson at #2 and trade him.

On a side note, I know Bowe is still at the bottom of the 1st in a lot of mocks, but I feel like I have not heard ANYONE utter his name in weeks.

[SoxScout]

The Raiders shopped wide receiver Randy Moss around the league today, hoping to unload the disgruntled wide receiver and his hefty salary on the eve of the NFL Draft, multiple league and team sources confirmed.

New Raiders coach Lane Kiffin spent part of Friday trying to attract a first-day draft pick in exchange for Moss, who has not backed down from trade demands that began midway through last season.

The Green Bay Packers and New England Patriots are believed to have talked with the Raiders, but neither was willing to give up the asking price -- believed to be something as high as a second-round draft pick in today's draft.

http://sfgate.com/cg...SPGMEPH76G2.DTL

Trade #28 for a 2nd and a 2nd next year and get Moss

Edited by SoxScout, 27 April 2007 - 09:54 PM.

[SoxScout]

"They will not be trading the pick right now, barring a blockbuster deal. The Lions met as an organization, with their owner, on Friday and decided that they will take Georgia Tech WR Calvin Johnson. There does not appear to be any posturing here whatsoever.

"Mike Martz, the Lions' offensive coordinator, got everybody so fired up about Calvin Johnson and the way that they can use him, that Detroit has settled on Calvin Johnson. Assuming that the Raiders do go with JaMarcus Russell and assuming that nobody makes a blockbuster offer.

"The cost of any team going up there is going to be extremely high, it's unlikely to happen. So right now it looks like Calvin Johnson is Detroit bound."

http://blog.mlive.co...ike_calvin.html

[SoxScout]

According to a league source, San Francisco and division rival Seattle are close to finalizing a trade that would send Seahawks wide receiver Darrell Jackson to the Niners in exchange for one of their fourth-rounders, believed to be the Niners' third selection in the round, No. 124 overall.

http://sports.espn.g...tory?id=2851912

Does this set the market for Moss at a 3rd round pick?

Edited by SoxScout, 27 April 2007 - 10:23 PM.

[Sille Skrub]

Crap, at this point I'd flinch and offer a conditional third rounder for Moss with a "the contract must get re-worked" clause.

[templeUsox]

So what time does the draft ACTUALLY start?

[Boo Ferriss' Ghost]

How in the hell would Moss possibly fit onto the Pats salary structure? Unless Asante is moved, and Randy restructures his contract, I can't see any way he'd fit. On the other hand, if you added him...holy crap, the Patriots passing attack would be nigh on unstoppable. Can you imagine the Patriots running out Moss, Stallworth, Welker, and Watson all at once? How about with Maroney in the backfield, or worse yet for a pass defense, Kevin Faulk?

Bill is most certainly not screwing around.

[SoxFanPJ]

What hyped prospect takes the biggest fall in the draft? Branch?

[Chemistry Schmemistry]

Could be Adrian Peterson and his collarbone. Or Jarvis Moss and his bad combine and team suspension.

[Bucket1923]

I am in Iraq right now where the internet is roughly equivalent to dial up circa 1996, so I can't plow through all the relevent threads and news so I apologize if this has been discussed ad nauseum, but...

Is there any chance that Asante Samuel gets dealt today? It seems that with the whole tatoo about getting paid, the franchise tag might make him willing to hold out the enitre year. Thanks.

[jacklamabe65]

I love the Pats and always have, but is there anything more overrated than the NFL draft?

[Dennis Upperdeckersley]

ESPN reporting OAK will take Russell.

They also think Quinn will drop all the way to Miami at 9.

Link

[Rasputin]

I love the Pats and always have, but is there anything more overrated than the NFL draft?

Derek Jeter's defense

[Sille Skrub]

I love the Pats and always have, but is there anything more overrated than the NFL draft?

Waxing poetic about old/dead people?

I love the NFL draft.

[templeUsox]

Yea, I look forward to the draft more than the Super Bowl most years. There's something fun about the calamity and spontaneity of it. Something definitely not captured by the NBA, and obviously the MLB draft.

[templeUsox]

BTW, NFL Network or ESPN?

I'll probably flip through both, but I think I'll stay with the NFL Network for the majority of the draft.

Edited by templeUsox, 28 April 2007 - 09:26 AM.

[templeUsox]

Rick Gossellin, widely considered the most accurate mock drafter, put this out today:

1. OAKLAND RAIDERS
Selection: JaMarcus Russell, QB, LSU

2. DETROIT LIONS
Selection: Calvin Johnson, WR, Georgia Tech

3. CLEVELAND BROWNS
Selection: Joe Thomas, OT, Wisconsin

4. TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS
Selection: Gaines Adams, DE, Clemson

5. ARIZONA CARDINALS
Selection: Adrian Peterson, HB, Oklahoma

6. WASHINGTON REDSKINS
Selection: LaRon Landry, S, LSU

7. MINNESOTA VIKINGS
Selection: Leon Hall, CB, Michigan

8. ATLANTA FALCONS
Selection: Levi Brown, OT, Penn State

9. MIAMI DOLPHINS
Selection: Brady Quinn, QB, Notre Dame

10. HOUSTON TEXANS
Selection: Darrelle Revis, CB, Pitt

11. SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS
Selection: Patrick Willis, LB, Mississippi

12. BUFFALO BILLS
Selection: Marshawn Lynch, RB, Cal

13. ST. LOUIS RAMS
Selection: Adam Carriker, DE, Nebraska

14. CAROLINA PANTHERS
Selection: Jamaal Anderson, DE, Arkansas

15. PITTSBURGH STEELERS
Selection: Lawrence Timmons, OLB, Florida State

16. GREEN BAY PACKERS
Selection: Robert Meachem, WR, Tennessee

17. JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS
Selection: Ted Ginn Jr., WR, Ohio State

18. CINCINNATI BENGALS
Selection: Reggie Nelson, S, Florida

19. TENNESSEE TITANS
Selection: Dwayne Bowe, WR, LSU

20. NEW YORK GIANTS
Selection: Joe Staley, OT, Central Michigan

21. DENVER BRONCOS
Selection: Jarvis Moss, DE, Florida

22. DALLAS COWBOYS
Selection: Aaron Ross, CB, Texas

23. KANSAS CITY CHIEFS
Selection: Amobi Okoye, DT, Louisville

24. NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS
Selection: David Harris, LB, Michigan

25. NEW YORK JETS
Selection: Greg Olsen, TE, Miami, Fla.

26. PHILADELPHIA EAGLES
Selection: Paul Posluszny, LB, Penn State

27. NEW ORLEANS SAINTS
Selection: Justin Harrell, DT, Tennessee

28. NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS
Selection: Brandon Meriweather, S, Miami, Fla.

29. BALTIMORE RAVENS
Selection: Ben Grubbs, G, Auburn

30. SAN DIEGO CHARGERS
Selection: Jon Beason, LB, Miami, Fla.

31. CHICAGO BEARS
Selection: Dwayne Jarrett, WR, Southern Cal

32. INDIANAPOLIS COLTS
Selection: Michael Griffin, S, Texas

Edited by templeUsox, 28 April 2007 - 09:31 AM.

[JeffFryesStartingJob]

Rick Gossellin, widely considered the most accurate mock drafter, put this out today:

Okoye has dropped all the way to 23? Didn't all the mocks have him in the top 10 a week ago?

[Marbleheader]

How can anyone not like the draft? Sure, the hype and endless mocks are a bit much sometimes. The only thing I'd change is making it 10 minutes to pick 15 stretches it out far too long, especially if your team isn't in the top 20.

[Catcher Block]

After seeing that mock draft, would the Pats take Okoye if he falls to them?

He wouldn't be able to make a immediate impact on our D-line, but would Belichick hesitate on the chance to mold this kid?

[bball831]

Looks like Brady was running late today, he forgot to comb his hair.

[Ferm Sheller]

I love the Pats and always have, but is there anything more overrated than the NFL draft?

I agree with this 100%, but why is it that I'm addicted to watching it? Am I a boring loser with no life? Each year I "waste" an entire weekend watching this thing...on the edge of my seat...listening to Mel Kiper like he's Confucious...another half hour and it is on, bitches!

[Rough Carrigan]

I would totally applaud a kid among the expected top picks who didn't go to New York, who didn't let espn bring cameras into his house, who just watched on tv and answered calls with his family and friends around him. But I don't think any of 'em are gonna do that.

[Rough Carrigan]

I agree with this 100%, but why is it that I'm addicted to watching it? Am I a boring loser with no life? Each year I "waste" an entire weekend watching this thing...on the edge of my seat...listening to Mel Kiper like he's Confucious...another half hour and it is on, bitches!

Or at least Sun Tzu.

[DJnVa]

From profootballtalk.com

A source with knowledge of the situation tells us that the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the Detroit Lions are close to a deal that would send the No. 2 overall pick in the draft -- presumably, receiver Calvin Johnson -- to the Bucs.

[Rough Carrigan]

ESPN reporting OAK will take Russell.

They also think Quinn will drop all the way to Miami at 9.

Link

"Coach? Coach Weis? Can you hear me? I just got picked!"
"Yeah, Brady, who drafted you?"
"The Dolphins!"
" . . . "
"Coach?"
" . . . "
"Coach? Are you there? What do you think?"
"I think my program's gonna look like shit after Bill and Eric humiliate you. Have a nice day."
" . . . "

[bball831]

AHAHAHAHA, Brady Quinn gets booed as he introduced by Deion.

[NortheasternPJ]

oakland is about to sink their franchise for the next 5 years with the Russell pick. i can't wait

[NortheasternPJ]

Vick leave the dogs at home?

[Chemistry Schmemistry]

I'm disappointed no one in the crowd is barking at Vick.

[templeUsox]

Just put the Raiders on the clock already.

[Rough Carrigan]

I'm disappointed no one in the crowd is barking at Vick.

Or at least chanted the name "Ron Mexico"

Or sang "One toke over the line . . "

Or . . .

What a fuck up he is.

[Chemistry Schmemistry]

Well, after that last playoff performance, I certainly hope the Pats are going to try to trade up to #1 to take Russell. They could get Randy Moss in the deal, too.

(sorry, my draft-day humor isn't that great).

[Rough Carrigan]

oakland is about to sink their franchise for the next 5 years with the Russell pick. i can't wait

Oh come on. Everybody knows the best quarterbacks have the best arms, like Michael Vick . . . um, I mean are the biggest physically, like Daunte Culpepper . . . Um, okay, you might be right.

[templeUsox]

We're off.

[templeUsox]

Oh come on. Everybody knows the best quarterbacks have the best arms, like Michael Vick . . . um, I mean are the biggest physically, like Daunte Culpepper . . . Um, okay, you might be right.

Whatever. Russell is a beast.

[Rough Carrigan]

Whatever. Russell is a beast.

He may be but the various commenters keep citing his size and arm as the reasons for picking him. Is he an accurate passer? Does he read defenses well? Is he a good leader of a team? Maybe so, but all we seem to hear is "Boy is he big! Wow, he's got a great arm!"

[templeUsox]

Well he was the 6th most accurate passer in the country last year, while playing in the best conference in the country, and he was only a junior.

Edited by templeUsox, 28 April 2007 - 11:16 AM.

[Chemistry Schmemistry]

Well, if he's ever on his knees in the pocket, I'm convinced he can throw the ball deep with the best of them.

[Boo Ferriss' Ghost]

He may be but the various commenters keep citing his size and arm as the reasons for picking him. Is he an accurate passer? Does he read defenses well? Is he a good leader of a team? Maybe so, but all we seem to hear is "Boy is he big! Wow, he's got a great arm!"

69% passer. Supposedly he has good recognition skills too.