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[AlNipper49]

But seriously, outside of him being himself, take a look at and digest this line for a second

Getting a little tired and bored here in the final week of the Grapefruit League circuit

Tired and Bored?
Isn't it your job to write? Manny doesn't show up on time (but still well before he had to) and Shaughnessy crucifies him. He admits to mailing it in.

• Josh Beckett, our potential under-the-radar ace pitches uber impressively and he's bored? He'd rather print this?
• We have a pretty damn interesting battle for the 5th starter going on. I surmise "Kason Gabbard" isn't a household name in Boston yet. Shouldn't it be their job to be enlightening us?
• With all of the attention heaped on Daisuke we have yet to get a meat and potatoes story on Okajima, who has given up 2 runs in 10 innings this spring.
• etc etc etc etc

Schilling posts his blog so he's not taken out of context but that stupid pasty cunt still manages to pick and choose choice quotes. That disingenuous fuck. I'm not saying this to kiss Schilling ass but Jesus fucking Christ just go fucking sign with the Yankees. Just do us a favor and fucking kill this human shitstain before you leave. Fuck, if I was Schilling and Shaughnessy got ALS I'd find a new fucking charity.

http://www.boston.co...from Boston.com

[Mr Weebles]

Nip, you and I had a chance to kill the fucker a few years back at Fenway. We should have just done it. No jury would have convicted us.

[Danistheantichrist]

I like him.

[djhb20]

Good for you guys not to read any of it. I thought I'd give it a quick read, because what else am I going to do while I'm eating my breakfast.

It's not lifting choice quotes. Everything is fabricated; it's a "joke" and a total hatchet job on Schilling. For example:

Suckup38: Curt, you are the best. Thank you for this blog. It completes me. You had me at hello. I have blood stains on all my white socks. I was wondering if you would please consider going back to the negotiating table with the Red Sox during the season. If you leave Boston, I'll be forced to leave, myself.

38 Pitches: Don't get carried away there, Suckup38. I know it's difficult, but try to remember that even though I am the ace of the staff and delivered a World Series to you after 86 years, and am serving my fellow man in every way imaginable, I am still only one man. And I will not negotiate through the media. I think I've been pretty clear on that in all of my news-breaking interviews with WEEI.

It's all like that. Look, I can do it too:

Fake Name38: I'm an internet loser and I love you Curt.

38 Pitches: Sportswriters suck. I'm awesome.

Will the Globe hire me?


ETA: Oh, wait, he also got in a requisite jab at Bill James, in the notes column:

Senior baseball operations adviser Bill James was in the press box, reviewing his creation of the 2007 Sox

Edited by djhb20, 26 March 2007 - 08:03 AM.

[5belongstoGeorge]

When Curt is a senator he will outlaw CHB. That will be sweet!!!

[AlNipper49]

Fuck I still remember running down those stairs towards Shaughnessy. Weebs I am still impressed you managed to hold your composure and get his attention.

[Guapos Toenails]

All that does is prove the fact that he (CHB) is a hateful, jealous person.

He only confirms what G38 says about him.

There are alot of unreadable fanboy comments, though.

[Smiling Joe Hesketh]

Nip, it's really quite simple. Shank hates baseball. Specifically, he hates the Red Sox. He hates his job. He finds covering ST boring.

This shouldn't surprise anyone.

Did he take his obligatory cheap shot at Bill James too?

EDIT: Holy shit, he did. I just assumed it, but he did. Christ. I hope Bill James kills his dog.

[Guapos Toenails]

Curt, I hope you can take the high-road on this one. Don't give him the satisfaction...

[Comfortably Lomb]

I actually think this should be on the main board, but mostly as a discussion about how the media resents the numerous ways that athletes can communicate with the fans now and bypass the mainstream media that has been so abusive of its access.

Edit - I know it's an article to get bent out of shape over, but there is a great discussion underlying it and I think we're missing the boat on it if we leave it in P&G. Shaughnessy's article basically read as a sour grapes slam-fest against a guy who is more popular than needing Globe exposure. It's unprofessional, moreso than a lot of what he's pulled in the past.

Edited by Comfortably Lomb, 26 March 2007 - 08:17 AM.

[AlNipper49]

No way is that fuck getting any more exposure on the main board. Good or bad, the worst thing that can happen to him is that people ignore him.

[Comfortably Lomb]

No way is that fuck getting any more exposure on the main board. Good or bad, the worst thing that can happen to him is that people ignore him.

I categorically disagree. The marginalization of mainstream media because of the information age and its reaction, applied to baseball, could be a fantastic discussion considering some of the people at this site. I know you're going apeshit at the moment but I think you're being blinded to what could be a really great discussion. That's what we're here for isn't it?!?

Edited by Comfortably Lomb, 26 March 2007 - 08:19 AM.

[Manuel Scoreboard]

That column was just embarrassing.

About as funny as "Jim Nabors Night" in Branson, MO.

I honestly cannot imagine anybody actually laughing at any of it.

The only redeeming part is where the CHB refers to himself as the CHB.

Globe, please put us out of our misery.

[Smiling Joe Hesketh]

If it goes on the main board, it means we're telling the world we're reading CHB. Schilling will likely chime in, and the thread will get 1,000,000,000 views in a week.

I don't want to let anyone think Shaughnessy is relevant. Fuck that.

[AlNipper49]

An awesome comment from Cuban on why exactly Shaughnessy should be real worried

http://www.boston.co..._on_schill.html

Despite his fascination with new media, Cuban was quick to point out that traditional media was by no means dead. He said he could never see a point where owners like himself, players like Schilling, or the leagues themselves, were the only disseminators of news.

“You want somebody with an outside point of view that is objective or at least tries to be somewhat objective,” said Cuban. “Plus distribution is different. Even if you look at different types of PDAs of all sizes, laptops, whatever, cell phones, I don’t think people necessarily want to be caught having to read everything in monitor type.”

[exGloucester]

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That disingenuous fuck
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Shaggy beats off to your anger. It's all he has left.

[pedros hairstylist]

The Globe recently offered buyouts to nearly a dozen editorial staffers---I was PRAYING he took one. Of course, none of the eligible people that need to go (Cafardo, CHB) will go voluntarily. They need to be pushed out.

I have his home phone number if anyone wants to wish him "Goooooood Luck!"...

[Comfortably Lomb]

I have his home phone number if anyone wants to wish him "Goooooood Luck!"...

Always remember pay phones exist for two reasons... mafia use... and prank calls.

[Damonsdame18]

It's hard to trace international calls... just sayin'...

[JohntheBaptist]

Nip's right. He's "bored," so he's writing this, hoping either SoSH or G38 himself sort of "calls him out" on this, thus leading to more hits. He's baiting him to respond and very justifiably rip him a new one in some form so that he's back to being part of the story again, because what else should he do, he's fucking bored.

The guy is an epic asshole.

[bosoxgrl]

You'd give yourself less high blood pressure if you just stopped reading him altogether.

[jose melendez]

The think with CHB that has been frustrating for a long time is that he is a really talented writer. He really is, but he insists on taking the easy road 9 times out of ten.

I'm trying to remember his old stuff, pre Curse of the Bambino, was it good? Did he not hate the game?

[SawxSince67]

Damn you Nip.

Part of my New Season’s resolution was to AVOID reading Shank (AND the NY Times hate machine that is Murray Chass). I had not accessed one of his pieces (OK, the Red Sox Notebook stuff) since ST started. Of course, I had to see what pissed you off…

Actually, that piece was as sad as it was purposefully insulting.

I’m ignorant--how does this work? Is he not edited at all? Is the Globe that interested in raising “anyone’s” ire? We can rightly blame Shaughnessy for yet another hatchet job, but the Globe continues to employ him and this wouldn’t be the first time he’s written something like this.

It’s weird—like Pedro, Schilling is unapologetically who he is and he won’t acknowledge the media as an “equal” as far as the game is concerned. And like he did with Pedro, Shank seems to hate Schilling for it.

(Looking forward to a Jim Rome-Jim Everett type melee at some point.)

[Nuf Ced]

[sfip]

You'd give yourself less high blood pressure if you just stopped reading him altogether.

I didn't see this thread until today. I'm questioning why Nip isn't already doing what bosoxgrl suggested. I didn't even read the text Nip quoted of CHB in his post, and I can guarantee I feel better for having not read it than the people here who read it feel after reading it.

When will people get it that CHB is intentionally a heel writer who purposely writes to get under the skin of Sox fans?

[DosEquisMatsuzaka]

I stopped reading CHB during his anti pedro crusade and I have not read him since. He is a lazy POS who feels irrelavant and feels the need to start a sh*t storm to validate himself. He no longer enjoys the Red Sox nor baseball. He actually predicted those feelings in his book about his fabricated curse and he has fulfilled his prediction. He is irrenlvanrt, he is a hack who tries to generate controversy where none exists and I hope the Globe kicks his ass out the door...but they won't.

[Chemistry Schmemistry]

I'm curious as to why the Red Sox still let CHB in the door. I've been a member of the media in the past, I knew the sports info people at the local university fairly well and know how their job works. I've covered pro teams.

CHB obviously has a grudge against the Sox. And the Globe obviously knows about it and supports it. That seems to defeat the purpose of the special access they are granted to the team. Why wouldn't the Sox place a ban on Globe credentials for a couple of weeks to send a message? It's not like the coverage could get any worse, and it would serve to out CHB to the Globe readers whose view of the world is completely through the paper.

Edited by Chemistry Schmemistry, 26 March 2007 - 09:38 AM.

[Smiling Joe Hesketh]

I'm curious as to why the Red Sox still let CHB in the door. I've been a member of the media in the past, I knew the sports info people at the local university fairly well and know how their job works. I've covered pro teams.

CHB obviously has a grudge against the Sox. And the Globe obviously knows about it and support it. That seems to defeat the purpose of the special access they are granted to the team. Why wouldn't the Sox place a ban on Globe credentials for a couple of weeks to send a message? It's not like the coverage could get any worse, and it would serve to out CHB to the Globe readers whose view of the world is completely through the paper.

The Dentist and Lucchino had no problem letting CHB do their dirty work for them when he stuck the shank in Theo's back during the contract negotiations after 2005. It's been all but admitted the Dentist leaked all that info to CHB to get their side of the negotiations out and to make Theo look bad.

[bankshot1]

Why wouldn't the Sox place a ban on Globe credentials for a couple of weeks to send a message?

because if they did something as dumb as that they'd rightly get killed by every media outlet in the world.

[sfip]

I'm curious as to why the Red Sox still let CHB in the door.

Because he gets people to talk about his articles, like what this thread is doing right now.

[5belongstoGeorge]

The Dentist and Lucchino had no problem letting CHB do their dirty work for them when he stuck the shank in Theo's back during the contract negotiations after 2005. It's been all but admitted the Dentist leaked all that info to CHB to get their side of the negotiations out and to make Theo look bad.

Theo's actions made him look bad... not CHB. CHB was just a mouthpiece... of course if Lucky Larry and the Dentist lay down with pigs they should expect to get some pig shit on themselves.

[TheoShmeo]

The topic of direct communication with the fans and how that impacts the media is an interesting one.

But, as always, Dan made himself the story and made the underlying story less interesting at the same time. Previously, we've seen lazy, dumb, self-promoting and bored out of the CHB. Today he exposed his bitter and scared side. I guess I might be a little concerned if one of the stars on the Sox had started a blog with the goal, in part, of marginalizing me, and there's no doubt that Dan is running scared.

I'm embarassed to have read any of that tripe but at least I realized what it was pretty quickly and stopped reading. Those who've sworn off the CHB entirely are very wise.

[Guapos Toenails]

Because he gets people to talk about his articles, like what this thread is doing right now.

I thought we were talking about wether or not we should talk about the article.

[Chemistry Schmemistry]

because if they did something as dumb as that they'd rightly get killed by every media outlet in the world.

Temporarily. And who cares? Look at the big picture. The Red Sox spend hundreds of millions of dollars acquiring elite talent. Why let someone into their workplace whose sole purpose in life is to drum up local support against certain people he doesn't like? If his antagonism causes a top player to think about anything other than baseball for ten seconds, it's worth taking him on.

Let someone like Lucky take the heat for a couple of weeks - that's his job - and the message is still received.

[Smiling Joe Hesketh]

Theo's actions made him look bad... not CHB. CHB was just a mouthpiece... of course if Lucky Larry and the Dentist lay down with pigs they should expect to get some pig shit on themselves.

Nonsense. That article was written before Theo resigned. Not afterwards.

Look folks, like it or not the Globe considers Shaughnessy one of their brightest stars. When a sports story has to run on Page A1, it's CHB who gets the article. He got the Page 1 story when the Pats won their first Super Bowl (and led off with a Buckner reference, that prick), and he got the Page A1 story when the Sox won the WS. It ridiculous that Joe Sullivan thinks CHB is his most talented writer, but that shows you how fucked up their standards are.

[TomRicardo]

Yea, The Red Sox partially owned by the Globe is going to kick out the Globe.

The Globe could two shits if CHB was reciting lines of Mein Kampf as long as people were reading. The only way to get rid of the bastard is cancel your globe subscription and cite hime as a reason. If a ton of people don't do that, there is no way to get rid of him.

[5belongstoGeorge]

I defer to your chronological knowledge... my point is that LL and the Dentist used CHB, and that fact alone makes them smaller... that and I'm still a little pissed at Theo for holding his breath like that.

[Guapos Toenails]

Here is the main problem that I have with this whole thing:

I log onto Boston.com and click onto the sports page. I see a picture of Curt Schilling under a CHB byline and the caption of the picture says "Famous guest blogs in...Curt Schilling isn't one to sit on an opportunity to get an unfiltered message to the fans."

Boston.com/Glob is representing that what comes next are words from Curt Schilling's mouth.

I click into the article, hoping for a Rome/Everitt type exchange.

Inside the article, CHB is still representing that these are Curt Schilling's words.

We know that it was a made-up hatchet job, but someone else might not.

Is that legal? With no mention by the author that it is pure fiction?

[bankshot1]

Look at the big picture.

I try to.

IMO banning CHB, either in the sox clubhouse or on the SoSH mainboard is counterproductive. If the sox were to ban him or any other reporter/ columnist-wriitng less than complimentary things about the sox-they would get killed for stifling a legitimate opinion (whether it was legit or not)

The upshot would be, you would create a hero out of the skank.

Edited by bankshot1, 26 March 2007 - 10:11 AM.

[yecul]

I always love when Nip makes some biting sarcastic remark to an idiot that puts them in their place.

When I think about threads like this where he complains about CHB being a negative hack it gives those remarks more comedy depth.

[Chemistry Schmemistry]

I try to.

IMO banning CHB, either in the sox clubhouse or on the SoSH mainboard is counterproductive. If the sox were to ban him (or any other reporter columnist-writng less than complimentary things about the sox-they would get killed for stifling a legitimate opinion (whether it was legit or not)

The upshot would be you would create a hero out of the skank.

For two weeks. But when he comes back, people will be reading his columns and looking for evidence of bias. He will be a different CHB. It will alert the proverbial common man to the problem, and he knows it. Other reporters who might be tempted to follow CHB's self-absorbed lead will be more likely to stick to the facts - no one at the Podunk Press is going to take on the Red Sox over a 20-year-old punk reporter.

Also, publishers hate it when reporters become the news. The Globe won't let CHB enjoy that two weeks as much as he thinks.

CHB has crossed the line many times. He will cross it again. Maybe he really will accomplish his life's goal and be the straw that sends Manny into such a rage that he leaves the team on the eve of a crucial Yankee playoff game. I think it's time to make an example of him, in March, when people are just starting to pay attention to the new team. Even a one-day suspension, let's say on DK's first start for the Sox, would have quite an impact.

[sidthejedi]

I always love when Nip makes some biting sarcastic remark to an idiot that puts them in their place.

When I think about threads like this where he complains about CHB being a negative hack it gives those remarks more comedy depth.

It was bad enough that Borges got away with a suspension, but at least the plagarised articles deserved to be in the Globe sports section. This on the other hand....

[redsoxstiff]

I read or try to read CHB each and every day...he is a pustule...I make no effort to read Lazy Bastard Mazz...


He doesn't make me angry...often...

Remember that this is no longer a 'team' of 25 players...25 cabs...an annual melt down...piss poor 'blockbuster' trades...drunken managers...racism ...poor minor league system[s]...perennial shitty pitching staffs...

The 'controversy' this Spring stems from Pap as starter or closer...Mazz is harping on the possible mishandling of Hansen...

The story of Spring is Dice-K...and way down the road is Beckett learning how to pitch...

The Sox really aren't fraught with grief...grief as in player problems...

Every once in awhile some player takes a turn in the barrel...but it is all small potatos...

The Shag man slaps at everyone...and is becoming a story on his own...

As Jose has stated ...Shags is a talent...once ina blue moon when he writes about something non-Sox...we can have a good read.

Know the enemy...Keep him out front where you can see him...

[Monbo Jumbo]

Stiffy's on to something above. Combine the lack of current drama with chb's being bored and one sees why this team has a pretty good shot at the prize this year. CHB is incapable of reporting on 'winning', which is why he's hated so much here. Seems like a big storm of winning is brewing!

[Bleedred]

I have nothing more to add to this other than to join the chorus of those who don't read him. I stopped a long time ago (same with the (Site that Shut Down) site) and it makes the sports pages fun again. Seriously, I could not care less about the guy or what he writes, and I'm much happier for it.

Edited by Bleedred, 26 March 2007 - 11:34 AM.

[Grubbery]

FWIW, at least one national (broadcast and newspaper) industry blogger is roasting CHB as a knuckledragger.

Read The Lost Remote

[Phil Plantier]

Am I the only one that remembers when Ron Borges was a hero in the late 80s when the Patriots pulled his credentials? Denying CHB access would be a complete disaster (much like that move with Borges was) - it would garner *worldwide* condemnation and vitriol at a time when the Red Sox want to reach out internationally.

It's too bad that Borges and Barnacle have already gotten busted for plagiarism - he's a lazy writer, and that would be the easiest way to be rid of him, but he's not stupid enough to cheat now. The next thing to watch for would be an Embarassing Old Columnist Moment, when he makes a casual remark about women/gays/hispanics/whomever that was totally ok in 1981 but completely offensive in 20xx. I think he has too many wits about him to fall into this trap too, unfortunately. So then we wait for his eventual death, when people will write half-hearted obituaries, gritting their teeth and saying things like "it was all a schtick, he was actually a really nice guy," people that don't have to lie about him will smile at his passing and then we can all get on with our lives.

I think Nip has the right idea - discourage discussion/quoting of CHB on the main board. He just wants attention. The only thing we can do now is deny that desire.

Edit: I can't cut and paste.

Edited by Phil Plantier, 26 March 2007 - 11:42 AM.

[BoSoxLady]

Mike just came over to watch the game with us, so I don't have the time to go in to my most recent run-in with the CHB. He actually pulled me aside during a spring training workout ("You, me, let's go!") to rail against me. I'll tell you, the man is seriously obsessed with me. Can you imagine worrying about what a 59" Red Sox fan thinks? You'll have to wait until after today's game for the juicy details.

[Worst Trade Evah]

Am I the only one that remembers when Ron Borges was a hero in the late 80s when the Patriots pulled his credentials? Denying CHB access would be a complete disaster (much like that move with Borges was) - it would garner *worldwide* condemnation and vitriol at a time when the Red Sox want to reach out internationally.

It's too bad that Borges and Barnacle have already gotten busted for plagiarism - he's a lazy writer, and that would be the easiest way to be rid of him, but he's not stupid enough to cheat now. The next thing to watch for would be an Embarassing Old Columnist Moment, when he makes a casual remark about women/gays/hispanics/whomever that was totally ok in 1981 but completely offensive in 20xx. I think he has too many wits about him to fall into this trap too, unfortunately. So then we wait for his eventual death, when people will write half-hearted obituaries, gritting their teeth and saying things like "it was all a schtick, he was actually a really nice guy," people that don't have to lie about him will smile at his passing and then we can all get on with our lives.

I think Nip has the right idea - discourage discussion/quoting of CHB on the main board. He just wants attention. The only thing we can do now is deny that desire.

Edit: I can't cut and paste.

Are we sure CHB hasn't plagiarized? I wonder how we could find out. A script that runs around comparing selections of his text against columns on the internet? Doesn't seem all that viable I guess -- someone would have to notice something specific.

[5belongstoGeorge]

Are we sure CHB hasn't plagiarized? I wonder how we could find out. A script that runs around comparing selections of his text against columns on the internet? Doesn't seem all that viable I guess -- someone would have to notice something specific.

If he was plagerizing the quality of his writing would jump up a notch or 2. Just search on any column that you may have thought was decent... probably a ghost writer.