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#1 Saints Rest

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Posted 10 January 2007 - 02:59 PM

From another thread:

Are you kidding?  That was one of the great moments in Pats history.  Fryar got hurt in the 1st half of a game in '86, left the Stadium at halftime and proceeded to hit a tree a couple miles away.

The AP blurb:
Its crazy insane stuff like this that happened to the Pats with regularity in the Sullivan era that makes what has occurred since 2001 almost inconceivable.

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So what would be the top 10 craziest shit in Pats history?

Some places to start:
Off-field
-- Tuna planning his exit strategy while preparing to face the Packers in Super Bowl XXX.
-- Chuck Fairbanks taking the Colorado job, getting fired and then rehired as the Pats prepare to play the Oilers in the playoffs.
-- Steve Moore (et al.) waving his parts in the face of female GLobe reporter Lisa (grrr, can't remember her last name)
-- the great toilet flush water pressure test on the opening of Shaefer Stadium
-- the drug bust post Super Bowl XX
-- the aforementioned Irving Fryar moment

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-- the fire in the stands that delayed the game while all the fans had to move down onto the field
-- Roughing the Passer
-- The Tuck Rule

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Posted 10 January 2007 - 03:03 PM

From another thread:
So what would be the top 10 craziest shit in Pats history?

Some places to start:
Off-field
-- Tuna planning his exit strategy while preparing to face the Packers in Super Bowl XXX.
-- Chuck Fairbanks taking the Colorado job, getting fired and then rehired as the Pats prepare to play the Oilers in the playoffs.
-- Steve Moore (et al.) waving his parts in the face of female GLobe reporter Lisa (grrr, can't remember her last name)
-- the great toilet flush water pressure test on the opening of Shaefer Stadium
-- the drug bust post Super Bowl XX
-- the aforementioned Irving Fryar moment

OnField
-- the fire in the stands that delayed the game while all the fans had to move down onto the field
-- Roughing the Passer
-- The Tuck Rule

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Off Field: Drew Bledsoe's stage dive

On Field: The snow-plow game
Player (Matt Chatham?) tackling the streaker during the SB.

#3 Tizzolator

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Posted 10 January 2007 - 03:04 PM

Off-field:
(Lisa Olsen was the name you're searching for)
Tuna's farewell press conference, when he instructed America on the proper way to shop for their groceries
Bob Kraft announcing the team's move to Hartford with a press conference in Hartford with the governor of CT, which he later recanted.

On-Field:
Darryl Stingley's injury

EDIT: you beat me to the snowlplow game, Dr.

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Posted 10 January 2007 - 03:06 PM

I can't believe I forgot the SnowPlow Game!

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Posted 10 January 2007 - 03:06 PM

- Steve Moore (et al.) waving his parts in the face of female GLobe reporter Lisa (grrr, can't remember her last name)


It was Zeke Mowatt who did that, to Lisa Olsen.

Don't forget new head coach Clive Rush nearly being electrocuted by a faulty mic at his introductory press conference.

And GM Patrick Sullivan bankrolling the Jackson 5 Victory tour, which cost the Sullivan family millions of dollars and led to them selling off part of the team.

Will McDonough punching out Raymond Claybourne in the locker room.

Matt Millen slugging Pat Sullivan after the Pats beat Oakland in the playoffs in '86.
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Posted 10 January 2007 - 03:07 PM

I'm not sure. I just started watching them.

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Posted 10 January 2007 - 03:08 PM

And GM Patrick Sullivan bankrolling the Jackson 5 Victory tour, which cost the Sullivan family millions of dollars and led to them selling off part of the team.

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SJH, wasn't Victor Kiam involved in another disasterous business deal while he owned the Pats? I am almost certain of this, but I can't quite place it.

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Posted 10 January 2007 - 03:10 PM

SJH, wasn't Victor Kiam involved in another disasterous business deal with he owned the Pats?  I am almost certain of this, but I can't quite place it.

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Everything Victor Kiam did while he owned the Pats turned to utter shit, so it's possible.

I do know at one point Kiam had sold the controlling interest to the team and couldn't watch a game from a luxury box, so he stood on the Pats' sideline, in his KIAM 1 Pats jersey, pathetically alone.

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Posted 10 January 2007 - 03:12 PM

I do know at one point Kiam had sold the controlling interest to the team and couldn't watch a game from a luxury box, so he stood on the Pats' sideline, in his KIAM 1 Pats jersey, pathetically alone.

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I totally forgot about that. Anyone know of a good book about the history of the Patriots, both the bad and the good? It would be a hysterical read. The material in this brief thread alone could provide a solid basis, that is for sure.

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Posted 10 January 2007 - 03:15 PM

Some recent examples:

The Doug Flutie drop-kick.

The David Patten Game (throwing, passing, rushing for a TD).

In both instances, it was the first time that particular event happened in recent NFL history.

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Posted 10 January 2007 - 03:16 PM

I totally forgot about that.  Anyone know of a good book about the history of the Patriots, both the bad and the good?  It would be a hysterical read.  The material in this brief thread alone could provide a solid basis, that is for sure.

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There's some good info in the Pats' entry on Wikipedia. Lots about Kiam:

The Sullivan family lost millions of dollars on expensive investments, including The Jacksons' 1984 Victory tour. Additional pressure was placed on the ownership when they calculated that $100 million was already invested in the franchise. These financial losses and demands forced the Sullivans to sell the team. In 1986, Francis W. Murray arranged financing to keep the team afloat and, in return, was granted an option to purchase the team. When Murray tried to exercise his option, the Sullivans refused to acknowledge his rights and Murray sued and won in court. As a result, Murray agreed to partner with Victor Kiam to pirchase the team in 1988. Kiam and Murray purchased the team for $84 million — $16 million less than the cost of the team. Although Kiam was now the majority owner, he decided to keep Billy Sullivan and his son, Pat Sullivan, as franchise president and General Manager respectively. Meanwhile, entrepreneur Robert Kraft began his involvement with the Patriots by purchasing Sullivan Stadium (previously Schaefer Stadium) on November 23, 1988. Essensially, Kraft owned the stadium and Kiam possessed the team. During this leadership change, head coach Berry was replaced by Rod Rust — a change that was short-lived.

The Patriots' worst season in franchise history — a 1-15 record — came under Rust in 1990. During the season, the Patriots were thrown into the middle of a sexual harassment scandal when Boston Herald reporter Lisa Olson was sexually and verbally assaulted by several Patriots players in the team's locker room — a bad situation made worse by Kiam first deriding the reporter as "a classic [explitive]" and by making lewd jokes at public events about the whole affair instead of allowing it to die quietly. Following an investigation into the scandal, NFL Commissioner Paul Tagliabue fined the team $50,000, and players Zeke Mowatt, Michael Timpson and Robert Perryman $12,500, $5,000, and $5,000 respectively. Rust was fired and replaced by Dick MacPherson at the end of the season. The Olson scandal and the 1-15 record are cited as the two primary reasons why Rod Rust was told to leave.


God what an awful mess the Kiam era was.

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Posted 10 January 2007 - 03:17 PM

Tales from The Patriots Sideline by Felger covers most of the crazy shit the franchise has been involved in.

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Posted 10 January 2007 - 03:19 PM

The Olson scandal and the 1-15 record are cited as the two primary reasons why Rod Rust was told to leave.


I wonder what the third reason was. :D

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Posted 10 January 2007 - 03:22 PM

How could no one mention the Robert Edwards "Rookie Beach Bowl" disaster?

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Posted 10 January 2007 - 03:24 PM

And GM Patrick Sullivan bankrolling the Jackson 5 Victory tour, which cost the Sullivan family millions of dollars and led to them selling off part of the team.

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Which also led to Pat Sullivan, GM and part owner of an NFL team, living in a luxury box in Sullivan Stadium.

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Posted 10 January 2007 - 03:24 PM

Matt Millen slugging Pat Sullivan after the Pats beat Oakland in the playoffs in '86.


The amazing thing is that Pat Sullivan has proven to be the better football mind of the two. I would never have imagined I'd be saying that.

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Posted 10 January 2007 - 03:26 PM

Which also led to Pat Sullivan, GM and part owner of an NFL team, living in a luxury box in Sullivan Stadium.

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Please elaborate ... I thought I had heard them all, but this is a new one for me. :D

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Posted 10 January 2007 - 03:26 PM

Also, in reference to the Fryar incident listed above, the previous year he had gotten into an altercation with his wife at home and she cut him in the finger with a kitchen knife.

After he drove his car into a tree Jim Donaldon of the ProJo, in the only inspired moment of his career, wrote "First a knife in the kitchen, now a fork in the road."

Fryar of course would later on find God and become both a productive WR with Miami and Philly and a model citizen. He also scored the only Pats' TD in the SB loss to the Bears.

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Posted 10 January 2007 - 03:29 PM

My dad always tells me this story from when the Patriots played at Nickerson Field. There was one guy who was one of the last cuts, didn't get the axe until the day before the season opener. One of his buddies took him out that night, got him completely wrecked, and when he and his buddy went to the game the next day, they were both hungover. As they take their seats, his buddy goes up and gets them beers.

While his buddy is gone, he gets paged to report to the Patriots locker room. Apparently someone had gotten hurt, so they had him suit up. He ended up making the tackle on the opening kickoff.

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Posted 10 January 2007 - 03:30 PM

My dad always tells me this story from when the Patriots played at Nickerson Field.  There was one guy who was one of the last cuts, didn't get the axe until the day before the season opener.  One of his buddies took him out that night, got him completely wrecked, and when he and his buddy went to the game the next day, they were both hungover.  As they take their seats, his buddy goes up and gets them beers.

While his buddy is gone, he gets paged to report to the Patriots locker room.  Apparently someone had gotten hurt, so they had him suit up.  He ended up making the tackle on the opening kickoff.

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I've heard that story as well, although I don't remember the player's name.

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Posted 10 January 2007 - 03:32 PM

A great story about Kiam and Kraft:

As we know when Kiam owned the Pats, Kraft owned the Stadium. Supposedly Kraft despised Kiam. Anyone remember the Foxboro Stadium logo that Kraft debuted back then? Three circles in a triangle. Anyone remember the design of Kiam's chief electric shaving competitor, Norelco? That's right:

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Think Kiam liked seeing that image on his way into the Stadium every day!

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Posted 10 January 2007 - 03:32 PM

Great thread. A few other things:

Darryl Stingley, one of the great onfield tradgedies in sports history.

Bob Kraft's drunken speech after the 1996 AFC Championship game. "The greateth cooch in the hithtoree of modern times. Bill Parcells."

Billy Sullivan going broke on a Michael Jackson tour, as I recall.

The first American gladiators champ, Brian Hansen, I think being one of Rod Rust's final cuts in his only season.

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Posted 10 January 2007 - 03:33 PM

I remember the fans ripping down the field goal posts after the final home game in '85. They got into the playoffs as a wild card with a win over the Bengals (I think it was the Bengals).

Didn't they take the post on to Rte 1 and hit electric wiring?

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Posted 10 January 2007 - 03:35 PM

I remember the fans ripping down the field goal posts after the final home game in '85. They got into the playoffs as a wild card with a win over the Bengals (I think it was the Bengals).

Didn't they take the post on to Rte 1 and hit electric wiring?

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Yep, a guy died when the goalpost hit a power line.

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Posted 10 January 2007 - 03:39 PM

Speaking of wiring: a minor gaffe might be the Gillette lighthouse not working for what, 2 years or something? despite being the new stadium's centerpiece.

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Posted 10 January 2007 - 03:40 PM

I remember the fans ripping down the field goal posts after the final home game in '85. They got into the playoffs as a wild card with a win over the Bengals (I think it was the Bengals).

Didn't they take the post on to Rte 1 and hit electric wiring?

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Yeah, I was at that game, though we stayed away from the goal posts.

Before the Belichick era the best moments were always associated with the craziest. If any team was ever cursed, it was the Sullivan/Kiam Patriots.

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Posted 10 January 2007 - 03:42 PM

The Doug Flutie drop-kick.

The David Patten Game (throwing, passing, rushing for a TD).

In both instances, it was the first time that particular event happened in recent NFL history.


Both cool moments, but neither of these moments were the first time in NFL history that it happened. For the drop-kick, it was the first time in a very long time, but drop kicks used to be a regular part of NFL games.

For the Patten game, it was the first time since Walter Payton accomplished the same feat, and it was like 20 years to the day later. Others may have done it as well.

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Posted 10 January 2007 - 03:45 PM

Bobby Grier's draft picks. ALL OF THEM.

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Posted 10 January 2007 - 03:47 PM

We need to get some of the old timers here. The shit that went on in the 60s made the Pats of the 70s-90s seem positively normal.

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Posted 10 January 2007 - 03:49 PM

Bobby Grier's draft picks.  ALL OF THEM.

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:D Grier's first year running the draft was 1997, I believe. That year he picked 9 players. Of those 9 players, 5 of them had alliterative names (same letter in first and last names):

Chris Canty
Sederick Shaw
Chris Carter
Damon Denson
Ed Ellis

Bobby had a hangup, I think. All of these guys sucked.

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Posted 10 January 2007 - 03:53 PM

And GM Patrick Sullivan bankrolling the Jackson 5 Victory tour, which cost the Sullivan family millions of dollars and led to them selling off part of the team.

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I've never understood how anyone could have gone bankrupt promoting a freakin' Michael Jackson tour in the mid-80s?!?! Well, I mean I understand because it was a Sullivan. But still.

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Posted 10 January 2007 - 03:53 PM

Bobby Grier's draft picks.  ALL OF THEM.

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Oh god, I'd succeeded in forgetting that dreaded name for years. Thanks a lot. :D

How about the "jacked and pumped" press conference? Not a "crazy" moment, but a notable one nonetheless -- particularly since Petey SoCal is apparently hearing overtures from Miami, and might grace us with his unbridled enthusiasm yet again...

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Posted 10 January 2007 - 04:01 PM

How about the Tom Brady catch on a trick play against Miami I believe in 2003. I'm pretty shady on the details, but I think Brady took the snap and handed off to Faulk maybe (or was it Patten?). Then went out into coverage and caught the pass for about a 20 yard gain bringng them into the redzone. I don't think too many QBs have 20 yard receptions on their resumes.

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Posted 10 January 2007 - 04:05 PM

We need to get some of the old timers here.  The shit that went on in the 60s made the Pats of the 70s-90s seem positively normal.

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When Schaeffer Stadium was being built, the Pats played at Harvard Stadium. Harvard would allow the away team to use the visitor's locker room, but forbid Patroits players access to the Harvard locker room.

The Pats used a Ramada Inn, (i think), on Soldiers Field Road to dress and had no where to go at half time.

This is around 1969 and 1970, when there were about 10,000 at a Pats Home game. The Sullivan era.

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Posted 10 January 2007 - 04:19 PM

" the great toilet flush water pressure test on the opening of Shaefer Stadium"

I thought that was an urban legend, is it a true story??


It's a weird one, but one of my favorite goofy moments was the drafting of Eugene Chung in 1992. The Pats were awful, truly awful and the fanbase was desperate for good news. I will never forget my college roommate's - a diehard, diehard Pats fan - response, it was pure despair. At that point it almost becomes a comedy, like a guy breaking his arm falling over a curb, then getting hit by a car, then having a piano fall on him from a great height. Chung was the piano in 1992.

Chung was a guy who no one really thought would be a great pro and few thought he would be even good. The papers the next day tried to pump the guy up but there was a distinct smell across New England as fans set themselves on fire.

This was totally dissimilar from a Hart Lee Dykes pick where you could convince yourself that the guy had scary upside, even if you didn't believe it. I don't think that one person thought this guy would pan out, and he delivered on this expectation.

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Posted 10 January 2007 - 04:26 PM

Chris Canty

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Bob Kraft referring to the generously measured 5' 10" Chris Canty as a "press corner" when he was drafted, even though it was doubtful at the time that Kraft knew what the term meant and a real cornerback, Sam Madison, was still on the board when the Pats picked.

Players routinely going around Carroll to complain to Grier, thereby making Carroll completely powerless.

The Pats drafting Christian Peter and then waiving or renouncing him because of of rape allegations at, supposedly, Myra Kraft's insistence.

The Pats making it known that they would not draft Randy Moss, reportedly also at Myra's insistence, because he was such a punk (though not stated in those terms, of course).

And it continues at present:

Jack Del Rio suggesting that a Jax defender should have speared Tom Brady on a running play in a game when he was, in fact, speared by a Jax player, and not getting fined by the NFL for such nonsense.

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Posted 10 January 2007 - 04:39 PM

And GM Patrick Sullivan bankrolling the Jackson 5 Victory tour, which cost the Sullivan family millions of dollars and led to them selling off part of the team.

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Wrong, wrong, wrong. It was Chuck Sullivan (Pat's brother) that entered into a partnership with Don King to finance the Victory tour. Don-Fucking-King. That's just begging to be ass-raped.

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Posted 10 January 2007 - 04:41 PM

I remember when the drafted Hart Lee Dykes and described him as being like Irving Fryar. Given this was before Irving turned his life around it was terrifying.

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Posted 10 January 2007 - 04:48 PM

When Schaeffer Stadium was being built, the Pats played at Harvard Stadium.  Harvard would allow the away team to use the visitor's locker room, but forbid Patroits players access to the Harvard locker room.

The Pats used a Ramada Inn, (i think), on Soldiers Field Road to dress and had no where to go at half time.

This is around 1969 and 1970, when there were about 10,000 at a Pats Home game.  The Sullivan era.

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Also let me add another recollection that toward the end of the season, players and team personnel got pelted with snowballs as they waited to get on the buses in the parking lot.

As part of the deal Harvard football players were given free tickets to the Pats games. Few used them. Of course, home games were never televised back then.


Yes, the toilet flush was the first Schaeffer Stadium game in 1971 or 1972. It was a Giants exhibition game. Route 1 was clogged, also. Some fans in traffic with tickets never got to the game.

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Posted 10 January 2007 - 04:57 PM

Wasn't there a bevy of concealed firearm arrests on a Sunday or Monday night game back in the 80's that led to the extended hiatus before the Pats appeared in a prime-time matchup? There may have been a town ordinance placed as a result? My brother speaks of this fondly (he was at the game) but he's a cement head.

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Posted 10 January 2007 - 04:58 PM

Bob Kraft referring to the generously measured 5' 10" Chris Canty as a "press corner" when he was drafted, even though it was doubtful at the time that Kraft knew what the term meant and a real cornerback, Sam Madison, was still on the board when the Pats picked.

Players routinely going around Carroll to complain to Grier, thereby making Carroll completely powerless.

The Pats drafting Christian Peter and then waiving or renouncing him because of of rape allegations at, supposedly, Myra Kraft's insistence.

The Pats making it known that they would not draft Randy Moss, reportedly also at Myra's insistence, because he was such a punk (though not stated in those terms, of course).

And it continues at present:

Jack Del Rio suggesting that a Jax defender should have speared Tom Brady on a running play in a game when he was, in fact, speared by a Jax player, and not getting fined by the NFL for such nonsense.

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I thought the 'press corner' was Tebucky Jones, when Carroll that a-k brought BK up to Syracuse for the workouts.

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Posted 10 January 2007 - 04:59 PM

This was totally dissimilar from a Hart Lee Dykes pick where you could convince yourself that the guy had scary upside, even if you didn't believe it.

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Ah yes, Hart Lee Dykes. Injured his eye in a brawl in a club in Providence, in which I believe Fryar was also involved, which essentially ended his career. (Not that his created was headed to any great heights anyways.)

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Posted 10 January 2007 - 04:59 PM

In November 22, 1981 against the Bills in Buffalo. I was 9 at the time. Maybe a minor one, but it was the first time I really felt the pain of being a Pats fan.

I actually looked it up to get the details right.

Buffalo was looking for an easy win over the 2-9 Patriots at home, who were going through a miserable season with a talented but under-achieving club. Heading into the 4th, Buffalo was nursing a 13-10 lead. Joe Cribbs was knocked out of the game early, and Roosevelt Leaks and Roland Hooks were called upon to fill the void.

Late in the game, QB Matt Cavanaugh hooked up with WR Stanley Morgan on a 65 yard completion to the Buffalo 5. Following the 2 minute warning, Cavanaugh connected again wit TE Don Hasselback to put the Patriots up 17-13. On the ensuing drive, Ferguson was intercepted by the Pat’s Rick Sanford, sending most of the 71,593 in the stands heading to the exits. Using their 3 time outs, Buffalo managed to stop the Patriots forcing them to punt it back to Buffalo.

Taking over at the 27, with 35 seconds and no timeouts, the Buffalo Bills’ playoff hopes seemed dashed. Ferguson could not find any of his wideouts, and fired a bullet down the middle of the field. Roland Hooks made a circus-like one handed diving catch over the middle for a 37 yard gain. With the time winding down, Ferguson managed to line the team up and toss the ball out of bounds to kill the clock with 12 seconds remaining.

36 yards away from the end zone, the Bills called for the Hail Mary. Hooks, along with Jerry Butler and Frank Lewis, lined up to the right of the formation and streaked to the end zone. Waiting for them were 6 Patriot defenders. As Ferguson’s lob came down in the corner of the field, LB Mike Hawkins jumped and appeared to have battered the ball harmlessly to the ground....


But Roland Hooks caught it. Bills won 20-17.

To this day, more than a quarter of a century later, whenever a Boston team in any sport has a late lead and the game should be won, my Dad turns to me and says "Remember the Buffalo game."


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Posted 10 January 2007 - 05:03 PM

Wasn't there a bevy of concealed firearm arrests on a Sunday or Monday night game back in the 80's that led to the extended hiatus before the Pats appeared in a prime-time matchup?  There may have been a town ordinance placed as a result?  My brother speaks of this fondly (he was at the game) but he's a cement head.

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Not sure about firearms (yikes!), but I do know that Monday night games got so out of hand that the town did in fact ban them. Of course the Foxboro selectmen also banned Dead shows, Bruce Springsteen and Michael Jackson too.

I seem to remember a story about a MNF game in the 70s where a guy was supposed to parachute into Schaeffer Stadium as the national anthemn played, but he missed his spot and almost killed himself.

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Posted 10 January 2007 - 05:09 PM

I thought the 'press corner' was Tebucky Jones, when Carroll that a-k brought BK up to Syracuse for the workouts.

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Yup, you're right, thanks for the correction.

Canty (first round) and Madison (second round) were drafted the year before Tebucky, the press corner.

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Posted 10 January 2007 - 05:31 PM

Recently: The Miami game several years ago (2000? 1999?) when the referees put 3 seconds back on the clock after the stadium had emptied, leaving time for one Patriots Hail Mary.

From the Fegler book: in the Patriots first season, someone in the crowd by the endzone batted down an opponent's game-winning TD pass in the final seconds.

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Posted 10 January 2007 - 05:31 PM

How about the Tom Brady catch on a trick play against Miami I believe in 2003.  I'm pretty shady on the details, but I think Brady took the snap and handed off to Faulk maybe (or was it Patten?).  Then went out into coverage and caught the pass for about a 20 yard gain bringng them into the redzone.  I don't think too many QBs have 20 yard receptions on their resumes.

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That was the last home game of the 2001 regular season. It was out of the shotgun, Faulk took the direct snap and started running right, Brady spun out to the left, and Faulk hit him for about a 20 yard gain.

A couple others off the top of my head, I'm sure more will come to me soon...

The 1996 AFC Championship game, when the lights went out before a Vinatieri field goal attempt.

The 2001 game at Buffalo, when a Pats fumble in overtime was overturned because David Patten was partially out of bounds when he touched the ball while lying unconscious on the sideline after a huge blow.

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Posted 10 January 2007 - 05:37 PM

The name of the player who was paged to come out of the stands and play was Bob Gladieux. I believe his friend who left to get beer didn't realize where he went until he heard Gladieux's name announced when he made the tackle on the opening kickoff.

Another infamous moment was the 1980 MNF game in Miami when Howard Cosell announced John Lennon had been shot and killed while John Smith lined up for a crucial game-tying field goal.

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Posted 10 January 2007 - 05:41 PM

Some personal remembrances:

In 1966, Billy Sullivan, who had once been the Boston Braves publicity director, made a big deal about having two former Heisman Trophy winners on the squad - Joe Bellino and John Huarte. Because Babe Parilli got hurt at the end of a game, Huarte was announced as the starter for the next context. Sullivan did a big PR push on "our two Heisman winners" in the Patriots backfield. The first time that Huarte got the ball, he flubbed the handoff to Bellino who promptly fumbled it.

At one time, one third of the team was either from BC, BU, Holy Cross, or Northeastern. Those schools would alternate their bands for the halftime entertainment.

Temporary bleachers covered the left-field wall at Fenway during the football season. About 5,000 fans could sit there. At the end of the game, you could walk across the field in order to get to the exits behind the Red Sox dugout.

The Patriots played in a blizzard for the 1964 AFL Eastern Division in mid December against their rivals, the Buffalo Bills. Over fifteen inches of snow fell in Boston that day. Sadly, we lost by 8 points.

In the mid-sixties, their backup quarterback, Tommy Yewcic, was their punter. When he got hurt during one game, starting quarterback Babe Parilli punted for him.

Dom and Emily DiMaggio had season tickets next to my parents. At the time, Dom wanted to buy the Patriots outright from Billy Sullivan. Dom thought that Billy Sullivan was an absolute buffoon.

Sherm Feller did the public address announcing for a spell. Art Gleason, Ned Martin, and Bob Starr all served as the voices of the Boston Patriots. Years later, when they were playing in Foxboro, Curt Gowdy was their radio play-by-play man in 1987.

They never had extra subway cars for the Patriots. It was not a good idea to take the Green Line in for games, though we often did it.

Offensive lineman Justin Canale used to kick off Lou Groza style (straight-on) and the kicks would often soar. One time, he struck a ball so long that it landed deep into the end zone and one-hopped into the Red Sox bullpen.

The Souvenir Shop was open before games and did sell some Patriots jerseys and banners. I bought a Jim Nance shirt there before the big Buffalo game in 1966.

They practiced in White Stadium near Logan Airport because Tom Yawkey refused to let them use Fenway for anything but games.

I once saw them play in a classic, wide-open style AFL game - a 49-49 tie with the Oakland Raiders at Fenway.

When the Pats played at BC, the capacity was only 29,500 people. When they used to show someone punting the ball, most of the time all one could see on TV was the football in the air with trees in the background (as the stands were that low). Talk about playing in the sticks.

In 1969, a certified nut case, the late Clive Rush, coached the team. The former offensive coordinator of the then World Champion New York Jets, Rush brought in such ex-Jets as Randy Beverly and Bake Turner to bring "the winning attitude" to the Pats. Rush was a talker – not a doer – a man, my late father once claimed, who could out bullshit Mr. Bullshit, Patriots Owner Billy Sullivan. At his first press conference when he was introduced, Rush almost died when a live wire he touched shocked him to his very core. He was never the same man again.

When the Pats lost a blowout game in San Diego late in that season, Coach Rush actually ordered the bus driver to drive down the off-ramp of the California Freeway in the opposite direction in order to punish the players. In the beginning stages of alcoholism, Rush drank Scotch like it was Gatorade.

The infamous BC fire? Oh, I was there - running for my life after some shithead had discarded a cigarette in a trash heat under the stands which then ignited them. We were playing the Redskins that day in August (an exhibition game), and some ten thousand of us sprinted onto to the field while the game was still being played. Needles to say, play stopped, and I ended up shaking hands with Sonny Jerguson as the smoke encircled Alumni Field.

When the Pats then moved to Harvard Stadium for the 1970 season, they used to dress at the Colonnade as Harvard refused to have them use the Harvard locker rooms. An hour before game time, both teams would emerge in a local hotel lobby fully dressed for the game. They would then be shuttled over to the Stadium and enter the park with the fans.

When the great Johnny Unitas and the Baltimore Colts came to Cambridge to play the Boston Patriots in late September that year, the Pats actually played their best game of the season. With a minute left in the game, Gino Cappeletti struck a field goal to make the score, 7-6, Colts. Clive Rush called for an onside kick. To his great surprise, the kick went to one of the up-men, Tom Matte, who picked up the ball and ran untouched for six points. Why? Because the entire Patriots kickoff team had overrun the ball. The Colts fan sitting next to me laughed so hard that he cried. So did every Pats fan.

After Rush was fired, he was replaced by the immortal John Mazur, a man who had an Eddie Kasko-like demeanor as compared to the shiftless, alcoholic Rush. When Mazur was asked what he would do differently from Rush, he famously stated, "No comment".

When Billy Sullivan decided to sign holdout Joe Kapp, the celebrated former quarterback of the Champion Minnesota Vikings, he had the temerity to put Kapp in a uniform after arriving in Boston two hours before game time in front of forty thousand smashed Pats fans who then screamed for Kapp to get into the game. When Pats quarterback Mike Taliaferro had his bell rung in the fourth quarter, the fans began to scream for Kapp, simultaneously cheering when Taliaferro was helped off the field on a stretcher. Kapp entered the huddle not knowing one Patriots play. In the end, in pick-up game style, he fingered in the Stadium dirt where each receiver and running back should go. His throws looked like kickoffs.

Joe Kapp’s best game was in after a raging snowstorm at the Stadium in December when he nearly knocked Alan Page out after tackling him. Another funny thing about that game: Harvard forgot to plow out the Stadium. Thus, we all sat in 2-3 foot drifts which made snowball throwing that day a must. The referees almost called the game for the Vikings when entire sections decided to target one Viking and hurl their snowballs at one unfortunate player - quarterback Gary Cuozzo.

When the Pats moved to Foxboro, the sign on the Bay State Racetrack proclaimed proudly, "Welcome Bay State Patriots!" It took an intervention on behalf of Pete Rozelle to have Billy Sullivan change the name from the Bay State to the New England Patriots.

Phil Bengston replaced John Mazur as the interim head coach in the middle of a horrendous 1972 campaign. Bengston had been Lombardi's number one assistant and had replaced him as the Packers coach. After Bengston did his time in Foxboro, he was reported to have said, "That's it. I am never going to do anything connected to pro football again." He died not long afterwards. The Patriots killed him in the end.

I can tell you from firsthand experience, the toilets did not work very well at the new Schaeffer Stadium. There was a flood in one which seeped out of one of the exits and began slowly to spill onto the field.

When Schaeffer Stadium opened up in 1971 with a regular season contest against the Oakland Raiders (won by the Jim Plunkett-led Patriots), some Pats fans hired a local airplane sign firm out of Norwood Airport that flew over the Stadium with a banner that read, "Keep Gayle Knief!" Gayle Knief was a hard-working, overachieving, diminutive wide receiver who had just been released earlier that week by Head Coach John Mazur. At the time, he was one of the most popular of the Pats players. When the team won the 2002 Super Bowl, the first thing my brother said to me on the phone, "It's a long way from the 'Bring Back Gayle Knief' days."

Steve Kiner was an all-time stoner who was also a pretty good linebacker for the Patriots in the early seventies. That said, he was a walking freak show who actually lived in a VW bus in the Schaffer Stadium parking lot with his hippie girlfriend. They used to smoke weed in the bus and then take long walks around the parking lot at dusk. Kiner was a Dead Head - their music could be loudly heard from his VW bus all hours of the day.

At Schaeffer Stadium, the Pats decided to hire a guy by the name of Jumping Joe Garlick to jump from three hundred feet above the stadium and free-fall to a large balloon mattress below during halftime of the first Monday night game ever played in Foxboro (on election eve, November, 1972). Just as Garlack jumped, a stream of air picked up, and Garlick's descent suddenly seemed out-of-kilter, Ol' Jumping Joe ended up landing half on the edge of the mattress and nearly died. the guy sitting next to me said, "It looks like that guy works for the McGovern campaign."

When the Pats clinched a playoff berth one year, a group of fans tore down the north goal post and began to carry it down Route 1. They hit a hot wire with it and almost all perished due to being electrocuted. My father said at the time, "Maybe the are all relatives of Clive Rush."

A note to all you youngsters: relish this time. The good old days were not the Mel Witt, Ike Lassiter, Halvor Hagen, R. C. Gamble, John Outlaw Patriots. It makes what happens over the past six seasons all the more remarkable.

Edited by jacklamabe65, 11 January 2007 - 10:55 AM.


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Posted 10 January 2007 - 05:53 PM

The funniest thing I can remember is that after the snowplow game we found out that the guy driving the plow was a convict on work release from prison. Given the team's wacky history, THAT was comedy.




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