Well, it's the same argument, but there's the money too
I'd still consider that, actually. I think Sabathia is a better bet to be consistently great in the next 5+ years than Lester by a wide enough margin to warrant adding Ellsbury to the deal. If they were asking for Kalish on top of that, I'd certainly be willing to discuss it and try work something out to balance the scales.
Edit: Same goes for Santana. Both are already great pitchers. Both have enough of a track record for it to be reasonable to expect greatness going forward.
Lester + Ellsbury + Kalish for 1 year of [big name pitcher] + $135,000,000-$160,000,000 for additional years
and I guess we'd lose a compensation pick too.
People were just acting like the extra money, extra years, and extra players didn't matter. But it's an old, dead argument. Personally, I'm glad we kept the young guys, even if we end up 2 wins behind in the short term or whatever (I doubt it will be that much, and I don't think there's any way it's more than that). I'm looking forward to Kalish's progress.
Personally, I wouldn't even consider Lester + Ellsbury for Sabathia, but that's just me I guess. I think people consistently under-rate Ellsbury here. If he has an EQA of .260, he's an extremely valuable player.
Edited by Worst Trade Evah, 01 May 2009 - 02:01 PM.