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[Remagellan]

I'm probably not going to be on the board for the next few days, because I have to travel to attend the funeral of one of my favorite uncles, but I figured I'd just leave this thought to counter the negativity of "The Pessimists' Thread" while I was away: the harder things get, the better this team plays.

This team is 8-1 in elimination games over the past two years.

The first of those wins came in an extra-inning game in which not one, but two enemy baserunners, fast guys, no less, ran themselves into outs.

The second came courtesy of an eighth inning rally against a reliever who had owned us prior to that comeback.

The third came when our captain and our "hit-iot" savant slammed home runs against a pitcher that made our team look foolish earlier in the series, and didn't end until our much-maligned reliever-turned-starter-turned-reliever threw the prettiest pitch he's ever thrown in his career.

The fourth is the most overlooked great win in our history. You'll read a lot over the next few days about how the pitching match-ups remaining in the series mean that we're toast even if by some miracle we can get ourselves to a fifth game. Well, how about this one? John Burkett, the Napkin himself, against Andy Pettitte, in the Toilet with a chance to close the series? Think anyone gave us much hope of seeing Game 7 with that Game 6 match-up looming?

But despite the Napkin choking up the lead after our guys jumped on PettiTTe early, our guys found a way to stage a comeback in the seventh inning that would have been remembered as one of the greatest moments in our team's history, had it not been Grady-ed from our memories by the events of the following night. The pitcher victimized in that comeback? None other than the guy whom everyone is now saying we have no chance of beating in a Game 5 of this series, when we get to it. "Shattered! Shattered!" I shouted as I watched that comeback in a room half full of MFY fans. "The myth of Jose Contreras (born after his performance late in Game 3) has been shattered!" I expect to be shouting the same thing sometime Sunday night.

The one lost followed the fourth won, and we all know that story. If we had a manager who could have recognized that his once unsteady bullpen had transformed itself into a weapon over the course of the playoffs, well the record likely would be 9-0. You know the refrain, "Timlin in the eighth..."

The fifth win was the first of four that will forever be enshrined as "The Greatest Comeback in the History of the Sport". Down a run, the greatest closer in postseason history on the mound, how could it happen? How could it end in any way other than in the bitter disappointment we've all shared over all the long years we've rooted for this team?

It happened like this:

Millar walked. Roberts ran for Millar. Roberts stole second. Mueller singled to center, scoring Roberts. Tie game.

Two innings later: Cairo singled to right. Jeter out on a sacrifice bunt; Cairo to second. Rodriguez lined out to short. Sheffield walked intentionally. Myers replaced Embree. Matsui walked; Cairo to third; Sheffield to second. LESKANIC replaced Myers. Williams flied out to center.

One inning after that: Ramirez singled, and then BIG PAPI THUNDERED, "LET THERE BE LIFE!"

As amazing as that fifth one was, the sixth win was probably more amazing. Up early, then down again (DAMN YOU JETER!), then Big Papi gave us hope; then Rivera again, then somehow, a tie again...and again...and again..and again..and again...and again..thanks to the luckiest bounce in Red Sox history (Clark's ground rule double), and despite the scariest bounces in Red Sox history (Tek's Ken Dryden impersonation in the 13th inning). Then Damon and Ramirez walked around two strikeouts, and Big Papi added to his legend by sending Johnny running home, and the team back to the Bronx.

The seventh win involved this bloody sock, some cadaver's tendon, and a skilled and creative surgeon...oh yeah, and a man who secured his place in history, and likely in the Hall of Fame, with two performances so unreal, they seemed ripped from the hokiest cliche-ridden sports movie. That guy will be starting Game 4 of this series, by the way.

The eighth win came so easy, we forgot how hard it was. Damon getting thrown out at the plate, MFY fans cackling "Here they go again!" before Big Papi stilled their gibes forever with a mammoth blast. Then Damon broke the game open with two blasts and six RBIs, all the while our much-maligned reliever-turned-starter-turned-whipping boy delivered the gutsiest performance of his career: 6 IP, 1 H, 1 ER, 1 BB, 3 K, two days rest. As we danced on the graves of our former tormentors, the music was provided not only by the crash of our thunderous bats, but also the steady drumbeat of MFY's ground ball outs served up by our undesignated series closer. History was made that night.

I know this team isn't that team. I know some of the heroes of last year are elsewhere. But I still think that enough of those guys remain to take us on another long ride.

When the odds get longer, this team gets stronger.

When the things get harder, this team plays better.

The task of winning this series got much, much harder tonight. But that's okay, because I expect this team to play much, much better over the rest of this series. It is the only way they know how to approach these games. It is what they do.

I expect Wakefield will get us to Schilling, and Schilling will get us to Game 5, and Game 5 will get us to Game 1 of the ALCS.

Believe it. This team will be playing baseball this Sunday, and all through October.

[Senorec]

Thank you. I allowed doubt to creep in.

Win!

[CrouchingTonyHiddenPena]

I'm on the bus. This team is still dangerous, and come first pitch Friday, we're all on the same page. Besides, what's the alternative? It's better to be hopeful then bleak. JUST WIN!

(ps-I'm sorry about your uncle Remagellan.)

[redsoxjamie]

Hell, if the 2003 team could stave off Oakland, I see no reason why this team can't stave off the White Sox. The 2003 team didn't have Schilling or Foulke either. (Although Foulke did help us out in his own little way, didn't he?)

This team is slumping badly and hanging on by the skin of their teeth. I have my doubts, but I am on the bandwagon for better or for worse, and they just might be able to pull this sucker off.

[MikeGatorGreenwell]

I'll be there Friday and I'll be god damned if I let the Sox get swept!!

[SinCitySoxFan1973]

I'll be there Friday and I'll be god damned if I let the Sox get swept!!

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Season is over;this is not the same team of '03 and '04 and not built for the playoffs whatsoever....
Pitching must be addressed. Bulllpen should be ok next year, especially if Foulke is healthy. Starters, outside Wakefield and Perhaps Wells, look like crap

[SoxFanInCali]

It doesn't look good, but if we can pull out a couple at home, you never know...

[biollante]

We have them just where we want them.

[Noah]

The Red Sox have won 8 of their last 9 games when facing elimination from the playoffs. And if it weren't for a certain manager that record might be even better.

[bluefenderstrat]

I guess this needs to be posted:

D-Day: War's over, man. Wormer dropped the big one.
Bluto: Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!
Otter: Germans?
Boon: Forget it, he's rolling.
Bluto: And it ain't over now. 'Cause when the goin' gets tough...
[thinks hard]
Bluto: the tough get goin'! Who's with me? Let's go!
[runs out, alone; then returns]
Bluto: What the fuck happened to the Delta I used to know? Where's the spirit? Where's the guts, huh? "Ooh, we're afraid to go with you Bluto, we might get in trouble." Well just kiss my ass from now on! Not me! I'm not gonna take this. Wormer, he's a dead man! Marmalard, dead! Niedermeyer...
Otter: Dead! Bluto's right. Psychotic, but absolutely right. We gotta take these bastards. Now we could do it with conventional weapons that could take years and cost millions of lives. No, I think we have to go all out. I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part.
Bluto: We're just the guys to do it.
D-Day: Let's do it.
Bluto: LET'S DO IT!

[BrunanskysSlide]

We won 2 games in a row 32 times this year...all we need is to win two and it is a new series. More Cowbell!!!

[jacklamabe65]

Sox win two at Fenway: makeshift pitching - Arroyo for four, Wells for three; Pappelbon for one; Timlin for one - clinches fifth and deciding game.

You'll see.

[FenwayRocks]

I love it.

I came out here this a.m. expecting to see a lot of crap being spewed at Graffanino, and was ready to defend him.

Then I see this thread and I'm getting re-energized.

Good for you guys.

I'm a realist, I think we're a serious underdog to repeat as champs, with our pitching woes and all. But the last thing I want to see is the usual poison and bile aimed at whoever stubbed their toe in the last game (being Tony in this case).

I won't bet the farm on our repeating, but I'm pulling hard for the boys and am glad to see some positive vibes out here.

[redsox1918]

I've been believing for almost forty years now,....one cannot turn that Red Sox hormone off....

[bmacfarlane]

We are just in need of some home cooking. Sorry about your uncle Remagellan.

[15'sCementShoes]

Not to rain on anyone's parade but do we really need a Tony Robbins, Yes I can thread after every tough loss?

[Lucen]

Not to rain on anyone's parade but do we really need a Tony Robbins, Yes I can thread after every tough loss?

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

To be honest, with Clement pitching as poorly as he did in game one, it seems we're basically down ANOTHER starter. Even if we can pull together a 3 game win streak... we're not gonna beat the Angels or the Yanks with yet another pitcher down. And even if we pull out another remarkable win against one of those two teams, the Cardinals are no longer the pitcherless team we beat last year... they can shut down a good offense now. There's just too much for us to over come I think. I'm rooting for the improbable, but I have to admit, my eyes are looking toward the hotstove already.

[fox13weather]

Sorry, you can not expect a team to be down 0-2, and 0-3, and continue to win series. It is not going to happen every year, especially with one of the most flawed Sox teams in recent memory.


If I gave $1 million to every one on this board and said the money is yours IF you take it and place a bet on who you think is going to win the series. If you win the bet, you keep the money. Where is your bet going?

My heart says Red Sox, my $$$$ is with the White Sox.

Edited by fox13weather, 06 October 2005 - 07:31 AM.

[thisyearisthe]

I'm as pessimistic as ever, but I will relate one thing. After attending game 3 of the ALCS last year, I woke up the next morning feeling only the slightest glimmer of hope, and knowing even that was just me kidding myself.

As I left Boston to drive back to CT, I said to my friend "It's not easy to beat the Red Sox 4 times. They still have to win one more game. We'll see." I didn't even watch most of game 4, since I was on the road and listening on the radio, but I got home in time to catch the last few innings. The rest of that week was like a dream. I still barely remember any of it.

Anyway, that morning after is how I feel today. You still have to beat us once more. Will the White Sox win the series? Probably. But the task isn't easy. My guess is that it comes down to Sunday night.

And if not, then I still have the Yankees to root against. The pre-2004 mentality returns!

[amh03]

If I gave $1 million to every one on this board and said the money is yours IF you take it and place a bet on who you think is going to win the series. If you win the bet, you keep the money.

Ok...I'll step up...I'm willing to be the guinea pig...gimee the $ and I'll go place a bet...

I'm rooting as hard as I can for our guys. They have the parts & pieces to put this together and win the next 3 games. With a little help from Mother Nature (do a rain dance for Saturday!!), things could fall into place. Fenway is going to be rocking with support and it'll be a very tough task for the White Sox to win here.

[fox13weather]

Ok...I'll step up...I'm willing to be the guinea pig...gimee the $ and I'll go place a bet...

I'm rooting as hard as I can for our guys.  They have the parts & pieces to put this together and win the next 3 games.  With a little help from Mother Nature (do a rain dance for Saturday!!), things could fall into place.  Fenway is going to be rocking with support and it'll be a very tough task for the White Sox to win here.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

The money is really in your hands. You are standing in the sports book at Caesars in Vegas and the guy at the window is only given you even odds either way you bet. You bet on the Red Sox you get $2 million back if they win THREE GAMES in a row, you bet on the White Sox and you gt $2 million back if they won ONE of the next three.

It is OK. You are not any less of a Red Sox fan if you bet on the White Sox.

You can be a HUGE Red Sox fan and you can be a realist at the same time. It is OK. They will not take away your Red Sox nation card.

Edited by fox13weather, 06 October 2005 - 07:40 AM.

[Carroll Hardy]

Sorry, you can not expect a team to be down 0-2, and 0-3, and continue to win series. It is not going to happen every year, especially with one of the most flawed Sox teams in recent memory.
If I gave $1 million to every one on this board and said the money is yours IF you take it and place a bet on who you think is going to win the series. If you win the bet, you keep the money. Where is your bet going?

My heart says Red Sox, my $$$$ is with the White Sox.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Just curious: how much did you lose in 1999? 2003? 2004?

This is a sucker bet: All the Red Sox have to do is win Game Three.

[fox13weather]

Just curious:  how much did you lose in 1999?  2003?  2004?

This is a sucker bet:  All the Red Sox have to do is win Game Three.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

OK chief, you are at the Caesars window with a cashiers check for $1 million dollars. If that bet is going on the Red Sox, I wish you the best. $1 million would buy you a nice house in the suburbs, maybe even a decent shack in Dover.

[TonyJalaPena]

It's a lot more fun hoping for your team to make another comeback than it is giving up. You'll most likely wake up disappointed anyways, so why not enjoy the ride? Just the thought of a miracle is a blast. Are you really trying to tell me you don't believe that both Wakes and Schilling could come up huge at home forcing a game 5? Against an Ozzie Guillen-managed team?

Wakes goes the distance in game 3, Schilling goes 7 in game 4, and Papelbon is the hero in game 5.

[Number45forever]

I woke up and thought of Timmy Wakefield shutting down the pale hose in Fenway. The feeling is so real, I can see the ball darting and crowd cheering. Oh yes, Wake is on, Dougie is having trouble even catching the ball. Then, Curt Schilling, Mr. Postseason Big Game Pitcher, takes the mound Saturday with all the momentum in the world. You think he won't step up? Then Game 5, against the reeling White Sox? Please. This is how we roll.

We're winning this series.

[Angel Santos in Red]

We won 2 games in a row 32 times this year...all we need is to win two and it is a new series. More Cowbell!!!

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Heck, right now we need to win one game ... and we did that 95 times.

I'm not a big Millar person, but I think it's worth posting his comments after the game. I'll leave something out so it doesn't violate the board posting policy:

Millar's rally cry ...

The mindset going home is just to win a ballgame. We know that we're a dangerous club, [and] they know we're a dangerous club. We have to believe in ourselves to get the first 'W,' get this thing to Saturday and then win that game and try to get it back here on Sunday.

But our mindset is just to come in with that confidence and swagger, because after that first 'W,' a lot of things can happen. You've seen it happen in the past that way. We're going back to Sox Nation. We love to play in Sox Nation. Tonight was just one of those games where we had one that slipped away. We had opportunities. The main thing is to stay positive and back each other and get that first one Friday night.

We need the Nation behind us 100 percent. We need everybody to be on their feet. We need them to be on them in the bullpen. That's why they give us an advantage, that's why we love playing there and that's why we do well there. They're like the 12th man in football.

Even if we get down early, they need to stay into it and realize how much energy they bring to us as a club. We need them to be behind us the entire game and we'll grind this thing out and try to get this thing back here Sunday.

As for Game 2, I didn't get the sense we were going to knock Mark Buehrle out, but I thought everybody was having good swings and had some great at-bats. As a team, we hit some balls right at people. You know what, that's what makes him so effective, he just keeps coming at you. They beat us. Tadahito Iguchi hit .340, .350 in Japan the last couple of years. He's a hell of a hitter.

Of course, the big storyline will be Tony Graffanino's error. But I've never seen one guy on a baseball team lose a game. Graffanino, he's phenomenal. We're playing baseball. There's going to be physical errors, that's part of baseball. That's why we're Major League players. We play baseball, we're going to make errors.

Graffanino? It's not a lack of effort. He's been huge for us. Never does one guy lose a game, ever. Everyone understands that. We had opportunities to win the game. David Wells had opportunities to get Iguchi out. We had opportunities to get a hit there in the last inning to tie the game.

We're a team here and we're behind Graff 100 percent. Boomer threw a great game for us. It's just one of those things where, hey, we lost the game, we have to come back Friday.

We know how good our record is in potential elimination games (8-1) the last two years. The reason is the confidence we have in each other. You can't get too down. You can't have guys hanging their heads and feeling sorry for themselves.

We don't feel sorry for ourselves. Nobody else is. We have to come out and understand that we're dangerous. Down, 0-2, you've got to believe that. You've got to believe that nobody should be on the same field as you. You've got to have that swagger and that confidence, especially in our house.

We have to take it to them and let the White Sox know that we are in the Red Sox. They've done a good job these first two games, but we'll take it to them these next two and try to get it back to Chicago.

[Lefty on the Mound]

The money is really in your hands. You are standing in the sports book at Caesars in Vegas and the guy at the window is only given you even odds either way you bet. You bet on the Red Sox you get $2 million back if they win THREE GAMES in a row, you bet on the White Sox and you gt $2 million back if they won ONE of the next three.

It is OK. You are not any less of a Red Sox fan if you bet on the White Sox.

You can be a HUGE Red Sox fan and you can be a realist at the same time. It is OK. They will not take away your Red Sox nation card.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Dopes, can we please change this guy's screen name to "fair weather sox fan"?


Realism is for pussies who don't have the guts to dream the difficult, if not impossible.

With the help of God and plenty of positive energy from true Red Sox fans, great things will happen.

[joyofsox]

"Don't let the Red Sox win this game ... That's all I'm sayin' ... Don't let the Red Sox win on Friday ..."

[Carroll Hardy]

OK chief, you are at the Caesars window with a cashiers check for $1 million dollars. If that bet is going on the Red Sox, I wish you the best. $1 million would buy you a nice house in the suburbs, maybe even a decent shack in Dover.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

The Red Sox have won 8 of their last 9 games when facing elimination. That is a winning percentage of .889. That is not "hope"; it is as much a reality as the current predicament in which they find themselves.

The odds on a winning outcome in 3 consecutive occurrences, based on not wishful thinking, but actual prior performance in similar scenarios, is therefore:

X = (.889)*(.889)*(.889) = .702

IMO, there is no more difficult scenario in professional sports than getting the final three outs in a jammed, insane, Fenway Park to eliminate the Boston Red Sox in the post-season when they are playing.

[johnmd20]

OK chief, you are at the Caesars window with a cashiers check for $1 million dollars. If that bet is going on the Red Sox, I wish you the best. $1 million would buy you a nice house in the suburbs, maybe even a decent shack in Dover.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

It's a ridiculous scenario, as, down 0-2, the odds are stacked heavily against the RSox at this point. Thus, if you bet the Sox, your 1mm should end up netting you 4mm, including the bet, whereas if you dropped 1mm on the Chisox you would net 1.5mm.(those are estimates as to the real odds)

Your hypothetical and flawed wager scanario has nothing to do with the fact that there are still games to be played in the series and the RSox are going home to play in Fenway for two games armed with the best home record in the league.

The RSox don't have anyone right where they want them, but it's not over. And down 0-2 having to win two at home and one on the road is nothing like being down 0-3, having to win two at home and two on the road.

[fox13weather]

Dopes, can we please change this guy's screen name to "fair weather sox fan"?  
Realism is for pussies who don't have the guts to dream the difficult, if not impossible.

With the help of God and plenty of positive energy from true Red Sox fans, great things will happen.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Let's all get together at City Hall Plaza, hold hands, sing rally songs and work on that positive energy. That will make them win. Excellent idea.

You did not answer the question. You are in line at Caesers with a cashiers check for $1 million dollars. Where is the bet going?

Edited by fox13weather, 06 October 2005 - 08:11 AM.

[ragecage]

Re: Millar's comments--say what you want about the guy, but it is time's like this that I am very, very glad he is in the clubhouse. Whether he is playing or not, I don't think you can underestimate what he does to help the team.

[fox13weather]

Re: Millar's comments--say what you want about the guy, but it is time's like this that I am very, very glad he is in the clubhouse.  Whether he is playing or not, I don't think you can underestimate what he does to help the team.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

OK then. Sign him as a dugout coach next year. Fine with me. He can be a paid cheerleader. Just get him off the field.

[fox13weather]

It's a ridiculous scenario, as, down 0-2, the odds are stacked heavily against the RSox at this point.  Thus, if you bet the Sox, your 1mm should end up netting you 4mm, including the bet, whereas if you dropped 1mm on the Chisox you would net 1.5mm.(those are estimates as to the real odds)

Your hypothetical and flawed wager scanario has nothing to do with the fact that there are still games to be played in the series and the RSox are going home to play in Fenway for two games armed with the best home record in the league.

The RSox don't have anyone right where they want them, but it's not over.  And down 0-2 having to win two at home and one on the road is nothing like being down 0-3, having to win two at home and two on the road.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Of course it is flawed. What are you telling the clerk at the window. He is only paying even money both ways. You can not argue with the house. Where is the bet going?

[Buck Showalter]

Sox win two at Fenway: makeshift pitching - Arroyo for four, Wells for three; Pappelbon for one; Timlin for one - clinches fifth and deciding game.

You'll see.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Jack knows full-well what a pessimist I am.........and even "I" think there'll be a 5th Game in this series.

Somehow......someway....somewhere.....that picture - of Guillen clutching his throat in the direction of the Indians mascot - is going to bite him in the fanny. Game 5 could very well be that time.

[Madison33]

You did not answer the question. You are in line at Caesers with a cashiers check for $1 million dollars. Where is the bet going?

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

My bet is on the Red Sox...especially for the next two. It has been said by managers/coaches/players in many sports...the hardest game to win is the clincher. They win these two, both teams are in the same exact place Sunday night...fighting to the end to clinch the series. I like the Red Sox in that scenario. If there is one thing I have learned as a Red Sox fan it is not to EVER give up on this team. Pass me a shot of Jack and lets get this party started!

Edited to clarify which Sox...unintentional comedy at it's best...

Edited by Madison33, 06 October 2005 - 08:56 AM.

[redsoxjamie]

Jack knows full-well what a pessimist I am.........and even "I" think there'll be a 5th Game in this series.

Somehow......someway....somewhere.....that picture - of Guillen clutching his throat in the direction of the Indians mascot - is going to bite him in the fanny. Game 5 could very well be that time.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I hope so. . . man, I hope so. My faith in this team is wavering like hell, but it's still there. If ANY team can do this, it's the Red Sox. It's going to take a lot of focus and a little bit of luck, but I'm not giving up yet.

[LateRally]

My bet is on the Sox...

Sorry, but I just busted a gut laughing at this line. I need a couple minutes. Carry on.

[CarboCopy]

You did not answer the question. You are in line at Caesers with a cashiers check for $1 million dollars. Where is the bet going?

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

It's going into my pocket. What the fuck do I need another million for?

This team is obviously flawed. They don't have enough pitching, they depend too much on two bats that aren't hitting right now, and their fielding is mediocre. They're not the same team that won 8 of the last 9 blah blah blah, and you'd be a fool to believe that that trend can continue.

What the fuck, though, I'm a fool. Win tomorrow. Win Saturday. Win Sunday.

[sfip]

After 2003 ALDS game 2, a supervisor in my department said to me, "Over, huh?"

I responded to him that it's not over, and reminded him that during 1999 ALDS game 2 the Indians and Red Sox looked like they didn't belong on the same field.

His response was, "Over, huh?".

I couldn't help but remind him of those words after game 5.

We had a laugh about it yesterday. He remembers it well.

[staz]

Go Sox!

[Lose Remerswaal]

No worries here.

[BelgianSoxFan]

They only have to win 3 games in a row, pretty easy compared with what they had to do last year. Why not again?

I guess there are some fans that like to bet against their team every single time so when their team loses at least they have something to feel good about, or alternatively dump on their team so at least they have something to show for their loss. I wish more of them would just do the gambling thing in stead of trying to keep other fans from enjoying the moment.

The Red Sox are in the playoffs, this has been a fantastic year! Now it can only get better, now they just have to win their last game and it will be a better season. But this does not change that this has been a fantastic season already.

[Sox Odyssey]

What a spoiled fan I've become.

I actually still expect the Red Sox to win this series ... and I think that's great. Over the last few years this team has been more fun (frustratingly fun at times) to watch then I ever could have hoped for. They've come back time and time again from situations where all my friends said they were done. Whether this year's team is more flawed or not is irrelevant to me - I am going to sit back, root hard and enjoy the games all the while knowing that we still have a chance.

I like our chances.

[5belongstoGeorge]

Our greatest glory is not in never falling but in rising every time we fall.
--Confucius
... or as my Cardinal Fan Boss said to me this morning when I quoted Confucius to him, "It isn't how many times you get knocked down, what counts is how many times you get back up ."

Edited by 5belongstoGeorge, 06 October 2005 - 09:07 AM.

[Bdanahy14]

I am completely calm right now. I see no reason for us to worry, we either win 3 in a row, or we don't. If we don't, if we lose, I would be very happy with what this team did this year. They won 95 games with out our ace and our closer. Theo made one of his best moves yet, in not making any mid season moves that would jeopardize the youth movement about to take over this team. We made the playoffs for the 3rd year in a row. David Ortiz, officially became a product of folk lore..... giving us 6 more chances to see his helmet flip in the air, and his teammates pound on his head till it aches.


That being said, It would not surprise me in the least for this team to buckle up their clogs and start hitting the ball. We need, NEED, someone besides papi and manny to step up and get it done.

Enough about who would you bet a million dollars on, enough about what your $$$ thinks. Last time I checked, heart is a bit more powerful and last a shade longer than money. Is it going to be tough for this team to win this series?.. yes. But, we have discovered that victory tastes twice as sweet when its twice as hard to acquire.


check my coat, and count me in.. I Believe

[Green Monster]

OK then. Sign him as a dugout coach next year. Fine with me. He can be a paid cheerleader. Just get him off the field.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

He can be the team bar tender! Listen to everyone's sad stories........Give them a pep talk about the 2004 glory days..............Pour them a shot of JD!

[The Gray Eagle]

I never give up. They could be down 8-0 with two outs and no one on base in the 9th, and I still won't give up.

I went to Game 4 of the ALCS last year. I remember walking up to the park and hearing the PA announcer telling everyone that tickets for the game were on sale at the box office-- because so many quitters had turned in or not wanted to pick up their tickets. Pathtetic.

Never give up. I hope Fenway is rocking on friday and that the fans don't pansy out like quitters if the team gets behind. The team needs a loud, intense atmosphere. The White Sox need to be shown that they're not at home anymore. Hopefully the crowd will be good and the Red Sox will feed off them and deliver the win that we desperately need.

Never give up!

[anaxamandr]

ESPN announcers/EEI callers : "Bring out your dead, bring out your dead!"
Wakefield, Schilling and the rest: "I don't want to go in the cart."
White Sox: "Oh, don't be such a baby."
Yankees: "He's not dead yet."
Fox13Weather: "No, but he will be soon and he's just taking up room in the house."
Wakefield: "I'll be better tomorrow."

Sox aren't dead yet. After last year, how in the world can you give up on them now!?