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#1301 FelixMantilla


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Posted 07 October 2005 - 08:16 PM

I think Sox management realized back in July that something like this would probably happen. However the decision they made at that time, not to improve the team this season, may be exactly what the franchise needed for the next several seasons. At least I hope that's right.

#1302 sonsoftrotnixon

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Posted 07 October 2005 - 08:17 PM

Many thanks to the Sox for the sub-par year they provided in spite of all the hopes and aspirations that your fans forced upon you. You were a flawed team that deseverd no better than second place at the very most. This just goes to show you that no matter how much faith you place in a team, it only goes as far as it's pitching (and managing) will take it.

Many holes and flaws to fix for next year. There were a few bright spots and we look forward to seeing them succeed next year. Kudos to the White Sox as this is apparently their year much like it was "our" year last year.

#1303 BoSoxLady


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Posted 07 October 2005 - 08:37 PM

I just returned from the game. Major league disappointed. I never imagined the season would end with David Ortiz stranded on deck. Sigh....

Bottom line: The Red Sox just weren't good enough. It was a miracle they won 95 games.

I'm looking forward to a bright future.

#1304 PaulinMyrBch


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Posted 07 October 2005 - 09:17 PM

Last years team had a "this is the year" feel. This years team had a "this isn't the year" feel. And it wasn't.

Frankly, I'm tired of hoping Millar will hit a ball fair.

I'm not on the bash Theo bandwagon. Contrary to the quick fix knee jerk reaction posts, I think the FO spent the year not mortgaging the future for marginal upgrades. Wasn't a great year to go shopping for free agent pitchers anyhow.

If someone can find me the "Go get Aaron Small and Shawn Chacon" threads, I'd like to read them.

We won 95 games with this pitching, we weren't going to win 106.

Plenty of good memories from this year, no highlight reel bad play that will line up behind Buckner and Boone. I'm OK.

121 days until pitchers and catchers report.

#1305 NJ Fan

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Posted 07 October 2005 - 10:26 PM

Pretty weird to think that with just a little bit of luck, the Sox (red ones) could actually be leading this series 2-1 after today. I totally think the better team won and breaks are certainly part of the game but...

#1306 NYCSox


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Posted 07 October 2005 - 11:16 PM

it's not all on Wakefield, but I never again want to see him or Clement start a playoff game for this team

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Games 1 and 4 of the 2003 ALCS say hi.

#1307 atlsoxfan

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Posted 08 October 2005 - 02:07 AM

As I reported earlier, If Tito plays his regulars in the Randy Johnson "put the Yankees out of there misery game" we are hosting the Angels in the first round, and the Yanks probably don't make the playoffs, but instead he puts his Pawtucket lineup in the game and we get 3 hits to lose 0-1, so instead of being up 5 games, it was 3. Hopefully, Tito is milking cows somewhere in upstate New York next year and nowhere near Fenway, and like the Pats, take 2 out of 3 championships!

Edited by atlsoxfan, 08 October 2005 - 02:08 AM.


#1308 Tudor Fever

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Posted 08 October 2005 - 08:30 AM

As I reported earlier, If Tito plays his regulars in the Randy Johnson "put the Yankees out of there misery game" we are hosting the Angels in the first round, and the Yanks probably don't make the playoffs, but instead he puts his Pawtucket lineup in the game and we get 3 hits to lose 0-1, so instead of being up 5 games, it was 3. Hopefully, Tito is milking cows somewhere in upstate New York next year and nowhere near Fenway, and like the Pats, take 2 out of 3 championships!

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I wouldn't call this "reporting" and you are way off the mark. Ortiz has an atrocious record against Johnson (lifetime OPS of 444), and the Nixon-Johnson matchup is so one-sided that no manager ever put Nixon in a game to face Johnson until last Saturday (when, incidentally, Nixon went 0-3 and was completely overmatched.) Maybe Tito should have started Tek in that 9/11 game, but (1) Tek was exhausted and (2) this move would have been completely out of the box because Wakefield was pitching. You obviously have a vendetta against Tito but if your goal is to bash him effectively, you'll need to come up with better evidence than this game.

#1309 Lose Remerswaal


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Posted 08 October 2005 - 08:30 AM

Lester, Sanchez, Papelbon, Delcarman . . . I see good times ahead.

Get us a 1B who can hit for power and field adequately (Konerko!), and a decent CF, and I'll take my chances on the rest of the infield of Youky, Rent and Graffy.

#1310 Ebbets2Fenway

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Posted 08 October 2005 - 10:57 AM

Lester, Sanchez, Papelbon, Delcarmen . . . I see good times ahead.

Get us a 1B who can hit for power and field adequately (Konerko!), and a decent CF, and I'll take my chances on the rest of the infield of Youky, Rent and Graffy.

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What Lose says.

This was as good a followup year as we could have had, considering the (unexpected?) loss of quality pitching, the aging and injuries to position players, and the burden of living up to RSN's even more heightened expectations. Let us watch the off-season and look forward to Spring Training 2006, as we always do.

See y'all on the Main Board (and in some Celtics, Pats, and Bruins threads maybe)...and let's enjoy an MFY-free ALCS and WS, if at all possible! Selah.

#1311 Papi's Mango Salsa

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Posted 08 October 2005 - 11:15 AM

As I reported earlier, If Tito plays his regulars in the Randy Johnson "put the Yankees out of there misery game" we are hosting the Angels in the first round, and the Yanks probably don't make the playoffs, but instead he puts his Pawtucket lineup in the game and we get 3 hits to lose 0-1, so instead of being up 5 games, it was 3. Hopefully, Tito is milking cows somewhere in upstate New York next year and nowhere near Fenway, and like the Pats, take 2 out of 3 championships!

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You don't get it do you. Francona wasn't the problem. Do you really think that we lost in the first round of the playoff because of a single game?

#1312 boxos

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Posted 08 October 2005 - 11:15 AM

the best thing winning post-season games is the fact that your team is still playing games. when they stop playing it is not good.

i had tickets for Game 4 but there will be no baseball in Boston until April. that's the bottom line.

i'll watch the Celts and Friars until P&C.

see you.

#1313 jose melendez


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Posted 08 October 2005 - 11:55 AM

This was a rebuilding year, one in which we stayed competitive. We didn't get locked into bad long term contracts (except Edgar, though I think he was hurt for much of this year, natural regression does not predict a trippling of errors) we didn't trade away any of the quality young guys, and we have the chance to be much better next year, and much, much better in the years after that. Would things have been different if we'd traded one or more of opur prospects for Eddie Guardado?

We need another good starting pitcher, bullpen help and some infielder who hit more than ten home runs

#1314 Nuf Ced


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Posted 08 October 2005 - 02:05 PM

And the only sound that's left
After the ambulances go
Is Cinderella sweeping up
On Desolation Row

#1315 Tudor Fever

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Posted 08 October 2005 - 02:47 PM

The vagabond who's rapping at your door
Is standing in the clothes that you once wore.
Strike another match, go start anew
And it's all over now, Baby Blue.

#1316 kevlog

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Posted 08 October 2005 - 03:07 PM

Fireworks in basement
A hazard near the furnace.
Hope they don't blow up!

So much money spent.
In fine fireworks shops down South.
What a frickin' waste!

Sulphur smells near Barbies.
Kids say "why the leftovers?"
Ask Tito, children.

Good luck next year, Sox.

#1317 SpinnersRock

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Posted 08 October 2005 - 05:45 PM

Here's to 2006!

{Refrain
Carry on my wayward son
There'll be peace when you are done
Lay your weary head to rest
Don't you cry no more

Once I rose above the noise and confusion
Just to get a glimpse beyond this illusion
I was soaring ever higher
But I flew too high

Though my eyes could see I still was a blind man
Though my mind could think I still was a mad man
I hear the voices when I'm dreaming
I can hear them say

{Refrain

Masquerading as a man with a reason
My charade is the event of the season
And if I claim to be a wise man, well
It surely means that I don't know

On a stormy sea of moving emotion
Tossed about I'm like a ship on the ocean
I set a course for winds of fortune
But I hear the voices say

{Refrain
No!

Carry on, you will always remember
Carry on, nothing equals the splendor
The center lights around your vanity
But surely heaven waits for you

Carry on my wayward son
There'll be peace when you are done
Lay your weary head to rest
Don't you cry (don't you cry no more)