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CaptainLaddie
He doesn't.
jose melendez
ALCS Game 1- Jose Sees the Future

It’s time for Jose Melendez’s KEYS TO THE ALCS.

1. Jose is taking a terrible risk here and breaking a cardinal rule. He is writing this KEYS before Game 1 even happened. It’s not that Jose wanted to do this, it’s just that this seemed like the only way to guarantee that there would be an actual KEYS for Game 2. You see, as you are reading this, Jose is somewhere on the road between Asheville and Chattanooga, which are, as best Jose understands, cities in the United States. Jose just somehow got it in his head that since he had a few days off, it would be okay to hit the road, even with the ALCS on. It works out pretty well. Jose gets to travel, and probably to still watch the games. The only loser is you. Instead of getting to read a 264 line epic retelling of the Bhagavad Gita via the story of Rays pitcher Scott Kazmir, you get this meta KEYS written on Friday 1AM. Suckers. Err… Patrons.

What Jose was trying to figure out was whether he should write this as if the Sox won Game 1 or as if they lost it. After careful consideration, Jose decided to assume the Sox lost Game 1, so then if the win everyone will be happy and not notice that he is kind of a jackass. Also, Jose was concerned that if he wrote that the Sox won game one and they lost, players might get confused and think that they only needed three more wins to get to the World Series. But then Jose remembered that Manny is no longer on the team, so he stopped worrying about that.

Here we go.

This was not how Jose imagined this series starting. In retrospect he should have known it was a bad sign when Gerald Williams threw out the first pitch. Still, he couldn’t have imagined that after hitting Jacoby Ellsbury to start the game, Jamie Shields would set down the next 25 batters in a row.

What he could have seen, what he should have seen, was that DiceK was going to struggle. Yes, Jose was an advocate of starting DiceK in Game 1 to eliminate the awful risk that he might have to start an eventual
Game 7, but he couldn’t have foreseen that Dice would throw 240 pitches over five innings, walking 15 and scattering three runs. Wait, actually he could have foreseen it. It’s like pretty much every other DiceK playoff start.

On the upside, since, Dice did what he always does in the ALCS, when Jose writes his KEYS for Game 3 before Game 2 is over, he can write that St. Josh a Beckett won, because Beckett always pitches great in the ALCS. As anyone who plays the stock market can tell you, past performance is always a guarantee of future results. Right?

2. While Jose is not going to right a poem about Scott “Disputed Territoty” of Kazmir, Jose does feel like he is obliged to give you some background information on Tampa’s starter for tonight’s critical second game. So, let’s open it up. Any questions?

Yes, you. Why is Scott Kazmir disputed?

Well, no messing around from you is there? Does anyone have any questions about his childhood? Maybe his prom? Jose can tell you how Kazmir lost his virginity. It’s a funny story actually. No?

Well, on to the meat of the subject then.

As best Jose can tell, Kazmir, going back centuries, has been sacred to both Mets fans and Rays fans. Not so long after Tampa was given independence from the Yankee Empire, which had claimed it is a minor league fiefdom, it set up a major league team called the Rays. Whereas the Yankees once had control over all the talent flowing into and out of baseball in Tampa, the new Rays team was independent, and, however, clumsily, feeling its oats.

Freed from interference, the Rays got any number of independent players to agree to side with them, such as Wade Boggs, who defected from the Yankees and Fred McGriff. Under the terms of the partition, Tampa could even deal with the New York Mets, the Yankees hated cross-town rival.

Under attack from a Yankees team that made the playoffs every year in recent memory, New York Mets acting GM Jim Duquette made a desperate agreement to cede Kazmir to Tampa under the condition that he would receive Victor Zambrano and Bartolome Fortunato to help him fend off Yankee aggression within the New York baseball market. When the deal was made, Mets fans, an overwhelming majority of whom wanted to keep Kazmir, were incensed and demanded Duquette’s firing. Ever since, Rays fans have insisted that the deal was legal and valid, while Mets fans have claimed that it cannot be valid as the man who signed it must have been brain dead.

As the Mets have suffered through intense turmoil over the past several years, the cause of Kazmir remains a focal point in public dissatisfaction. Major League Baseball has attempted to manage the hostility, but it turns out that they have even less power than the UN and only slightly less corrupt management.

3. It is really too bad for the Rays that they are not a hockey team. It just kind of seems like a waste to have, in Grant Balfour, the child of two of the greatest goalies of all time, Ed Belfour and Grant Fuhr, and no net to put him in. (Note: Why they changed his name from Belfour to Balfour Jose doesn’t know. Maybe they Americanized it when he immigrated from Canada.)

Do you think if they started to call the innings periods they could get him to pitch three instead of just one? Jose bets they’ve tried that, because Joe Maddon is awfully clever. Do you think Balfour spends his seven to eight innings in the bullpen wondering what infraction got him put in the penalty box for two hours and 45 minutes? When the Rays are at bat with the bases loaded does he get confused and thing that the Red Sox have a five-man advantage on the power play?

I’m Jose Melendez, and those are my KEYS TO THE ALCS.
Sille Skrub
Win today.
Corsi Combover
fletcherpost
Beckett has some strange incentives written into his contract. If he wins tomorrow i think he is entitled to his pick of Scotland's favourite savoury pastries. That's pies to you and me.

twoBshorty
Craig Sager owns an outfit that looks like this:



When do we get to see that in action? I think it might be the worst one yet.
thrawnqq
I just saw this on Lohud. While they may be talking about the regular season, win today, and come closer to making this shirt meaningless!!

I am an Idiot
QUOTE(Corsi Combover @ Oct 11 2008, 01:31 AM) *


This makes me chuckle every single time I see it. Which, as a matter of fact, is why I am quoting it. I want to see it twice on a page.

Win.
ookami7m
So yeah, DiceK did his thing last night. What the Rays need to realize is that Josh Fucking Beckett is pitching today. He won't be walking the bases loaded in the first. Its time to do some work now.

koufax32
Well last night was special, no?

The Rays should be feeling the noose tightening a bit more. I demand that they play nervous tonight.

I demand Real Josh Beckett return to the postseason roster. I know Josh Beckett. I cheered for Josh Beckett. You sir, were not Josh Beckett. Change this in dominating, fear inducing fashion.

I demand Scott Kazmir to be so scared in the first inning that his fastball is slowed down from the sloshy mess in his pants. The noose tightens as the Red Sox will score in the first to set the tone for the evening.

I demand that Slappy Flair, aka regular season Dreamboat, cubically transform back into Postseason Ellsbury, the great Navajo spirit that moves foes to fear.

Make it so, Magical Postseason Francona.

Win.
Jack Sox
Get it done tonight.

win it.
RingoOSU
QUOTE(jose melendez @ Oct 10 2008, 11:39 PM) *
ALCS Game 1- Jose Sees the Future

It’s time for Jose Melendez’s KEYS TO THE ALCS.

1. Jose is taking a terrible risk here and breaking a cardinal rule. He is writing this KEYS before Game 1 even happened. It’s not that Jose wanted to do this, it’s just that this seemed like the only way to guarantee that there would be an actual KEYS for Game 2. You see, as you are reading this, Jose is somewhere on the road between Asheville and Chattanooga, which are, as best Jose understands, cities in the United States. Jose just somehow got it in his head that since he had a few days off, it would be okay to hit the road, even with the ALCS on. It works out pretty well. Jose gets to travel, and probably to still watch the games. The only loser is you. Instead of getting to read a 264 line epic retelling of the Bhagavad Gita via the story of Rays pitcher Scott Kazmir, you get this meta KEYS written on Friday 1AM. Suckers. Err… Patrons.

What Jose was trying to figure out was whether he should write this as if the Sox won Game 1 or as if they lost it. After careful consideration, Jose decided to assume the Sox lost Game 1, so then if the win everyone will be happy and not notice that he is kind of a jackass. Also, Jose was concerned that if he wrote that the Sox won game one and they lost, players might get confused and think that they only needed three more wins to get to the World Series. But then Jose remembered that Manny is no longer on the team, so he stopped worrying about that.

Here we go.

This was not how Jose imagined this series starting. In retrospect he should have known it was a bad sign when Gerald Williams threw out the first pitch. Still, he couldn’t have imagined that after hitting Jacoby Ellsbury to start the game, Jamie Shields would set down the next 25 batters in a row.

What he could have seen, what he should have seen, was that DiceK was going to struggle. Yes, Jose was an advocate of starting DiceK in Game 1 to eliminate the awful risk that he might have to start an eventual
Game 7, but he couldn’t have foreseen that Dice would throw 240 pitches over five innings, walking 15 and scattering three runs. Wait, actually he could have foreseen it. It’s like pretty much every other DiceK playoff start.

On the upside, since, Dice did what he always does in the ALCS, when Jose writes his KEYS for Game 3 before Game 2 is over, he can write that St. Josh a Beckett won, because Beckett always pitches great in the ALCS. As anyone who plays the stock market can tell you, past performance is always a guarantee of future results. Right?

2. While Jose is not going to right a poem about Scott “Disputed Territoty” of Kazmir, Jose does feel like he is obliged to give you some background information on Tampa’s starter for tonight’s critical second game. So, let’s open it up. Any questions?

Yes, you. Why is Scott Kazmir disputed?

Well, no messing around from you is there? Does anyone have any questions about his childhood? Maybe his prom? Jose can tell you how Kazmir lost his virginity. It’s a funny story actually. No?

Well, on to the meat of the subject then.

As best Jose can tell, Kazmir, going back centuries, has been sacred to both Mets fans and Rays fans. Not so long after Tampa was given independence from the Yankee Empire, which had claimed it is a minor league fiefdom, it set up a major league team called the Rays. Whereas the Yankees once had control over all the talent flowing into and out of baseball in Tampa, the new Rays team was independent, and, however, clumsily, feeling its oats.

Freed from interference, the Rays got any number of independent players to agree to side with them, such as Wade Boggs, who defected from the Yankees and Fred McGriff. Under the terms of the partition, Tampa could even deal with the New York Mets, the Yankees hated cross-town rival.

Under attack from a Yankees team that made the playoffs every year in recent memory, New York Mets acting GM Jim Duquette made a desperate agreement to cede Kazmir to Tampa under the condition that he would receive Victor Zambrano and Bartolome Fortunato to help him fend off Yankee aggression within the New York baseball market. When the deal was made, Mets fans, an overwhelming majority of whom wanted to keep Kazmir, were incensed and demanded Duquette’s firing. Ever since, Rays fans have insisted that the deal was legal and valid, while Mets fans have claimed that it cannot be valid as the man who signed it must have been brain dead.

As the Mets have suffered through intense turmoil over the past several years, the cause of Kazmir remains a focal point in public dissatisfaction. Major League Baseball has attempted to manage the hostility, but it turns out that they have even less power than the UN and only slightly less corrupt management.

3. It is really too bad for the Rays that they are not a hockey team. It just kind of seems like a waste to have, in Grant Balfour, the child of two of the greatest goalies of all time, Ed Belfour and Grant Fuhr, and no net to put him in. (Note: Why they changed his name from Belfour to Balfour Jose doesn’t know. Maybe they Americanized it when he immigrated from Canada.)

Do you think if they started to call the innings periods they could get him to pitch three instead of just one? Jose bets they’ve tried that, because Joe Maddon is awfully clever. Do you think Balfour spends his seven to eight innings in the bullpen wondering what infraction got him put in the penalty box for two hours and 45 minutes? When the Rays are at bat with the bases loaded does he get confused and thing that the Red Sox have a five-man advantage on the power play?

I’m Jose Melendez, and those are my KEYS TO THE ALCS.

Where's J-Bay being J-Bay? What kind of keys is this?
BoSoxLady

Jimbodandy
WIN
Todd Benzinger
Ellsbury -- CF
Pedroia -- 2B
Ortiz -- DH
Youkilis -- 3B
Bay -- LF
Lowrie -- SS
Varitek -- C
Kotsay -- 1B
Crisp -- CF
Beckett SP

via mlb.com

PS: Jacoby's actually in RF...
kanga12
QUOTE(Todd Benzinger @ Oct 11 2008, 02:01 PM) *
Ellsbury -- CF
Pedroia -- 2B
Ortiz -- DH
Youkilis -- 3B
Bay -- LF
Lowrie -- SS
Varitek -- C
Kotsay -- 1B
Crisp -- CF
Beckett SP

via mlb.com


I'm assuming you meant Crisp in RF?

Corsi Combover
QUOTE(Todd Benzinger @ Oct 11 2008, 05:01 PM) *
Ellsbury -- CF
Pedroia -- 2B
Ortiz -- DH
Youkilis -- 3B
Bay -- LF
Lowrie -- SS
Varitek -- C
Kotsay -- 1B
Crisp -- CF
Beckett SP

via mlb.com

Two center fielders? Risky. We'll see if it pays off.
kanga12
Just read the MLB link.

Says Crisp is in CF, Jacoby in RF. Drew's getting the night off.
PedroSpecialK
Christ, we have to put up with Kotsay at first over someone like Bailey because we just had to have Timlin on the roster. Great.
Todd Benzinger
QUOTE(PedroSpecialK @ Oct 11 2008, 04:07 PM) *
Christ, we have to put up with Kotsay at first over someone like Bailey because we just had to have Timlin on the roster. Great.


And Casey on the bench, not playing. Too bad at D to start, to slow to PH. What's the point? Annoying.

But hey Kotsay has been good on D and lucky at the dish lately. If they can just convince him not to hack at Kazmir's first pitch, I'll be happy.

PS: and hey two CFs is better than two LFs! it could be worse.
sachmoney
Is this a joke? Three hours to game time, and we're not even on the second page? [Mid Post edit: fitting that I was the first on the second after typing this shit]

It's a beautiful autumn day, at least where I am, and it's a great day for playoff baseball. We're up 1 game, and we've reclaimed homefield. I absolutely love. Do you know what else I love? Daisuke Matsuzaka. He may seem like the most frustrating pitcher in baseball to watch, but the man is an artist. He doesn't give in to hitters, and he doesn't give up hits. It's beautiful. You have to live with the walks, but the man is like Picasso. That cutter low and inside to right handed hitters? FUGGETABOUT IT! Absolutely one of the most beautiful pitches out there. He had 9Ks last night! 9! Yeah! I love seeing the panic in our fans when he's on the mound because it makes me feel good about myself. Feeling the same frustration, but still knowing a Houdini act is right around the corner. It's a sight to behold. The bottom line with Daisuke is that he doesn't give up runs. He just doesn't. He can go 5 innings or 8!

Tonight, JFB takes the mound. I don't know what to expect. I knew what to expect from Dice, but this JFB might be just JB. I hate to see him like this, but this might be one of the times when our offense needs to carry him. I'm not looking for the most dominant pitcher in postseason history to show up. I'm looking for a guy who is good enough to lead us to victory.

My biggest concern, of course, is the offense. Mainly Dustin Pedroia, but guys like Jacoby and Ortiz draw concern too. I don't think there's ever been a player that I've needed to watch every single at bat of. He reminds me a lot of myself when I used to play baseball. Making contact on command. The called me the "Hitting Machine," it did rhyme with my name. I could hit all day. I freaking loved it. So I live nostalgically through Pedroia. I hate to see him struggle like he has. He's better than that. Anyway, play your Pink Floyd during everyone of his at bats because the Laser Show is gonna start sooner or later.

My mother used to tuck me in and say these words...and it always eased my mind so:

HANTA YO

GO SOX!
The Filthy One
I have to work tonight, and won't be able to watch or listen to the game at all. When I check back here, I expect to see:

Beckett with a win, after pitching 7+ Innings.
Pedroia with a big game.
Youkilis with a HR.
Sox up 2-0 in the series heading home.

Let's go Red Sox!
I am an Idiot



Make that deer a Ray, and make that daytime tonight.
MoVaughnsTruck
Rooster Crows
OK, Josh - we've seen Dice-K's big ones - let's see what you've got left. Full throttle, kick ass and take no prisoners.

GO SOX - WIN TODAY!
educatedcheese



Make Kazmir cry.
sachmoney
We know the Sox Line up:
Ellsbury RF
Pedroia 2B
Ortiz DH
Youkilis 3B
Bay LF
Lowrie SS
Varitek C
Kotsay 1B
Crisp CF

Rays Line up:
Iwamura 2B
Upton CF
Pena 1B
Longoria 3B
Crawford LF
Floyd DH
Navarro C
Gross RF
Bartlett SS
johnmd20
Waiting all day for this game to start is killing me. Is it 8pm yet?
ookami7m
100 minutes to game time. not that I'm counting or anything.....
Big Lee Smith
Wow, that lineup...I don't know how to put this...it's just that it...it kinda sucks right?...I mean on paper of course...

hmmm, I'm not ready for this game.

To the discount liquor store!
Nuf Ced
Pearl Wilson
NESN's lineup had 2 CFers.
Pearl Wilson
QUOTE(Pearl Wilson @ Oct 11 2008, 06:36 PM) *
NESN's lineup had 2 CFers.

Edit: I see they're not the first to make the mistake.
Archer1979
Archer's pre-game checklist:

Light switches down and lights out...check
Kids fed...check
Call Jamie Lyn Spears and tell her I was only kidding about breast feeding being a form of birth control...I'll hold off until later
Pearl Wilson
QUOTE(sachmoney @ Oct 11 2008, 05:16 PM) *
My mother used to tuck me in and say these words...and it always eased my mind so:HANTA YO

GO SOX!

Sooner Steve is your mom?
PedroKsBambino
Win Today.
Archer1979
Is it Jon?

someoneanywhere
QUOTE(PedroSpecialK @ Oct 11 2008, 05:07 PM) *
Christ, we have to put up with Kotsay at first over someone like Bailey because we just had to have Timlin on the roster. Great.


I hereby re-christen -- for the remainder of the postseason, anyway -- our boy Timlin as "Gollum." My heart tells me that he has some part to play yet, for good or ill, before the end.
Clemente38
Win tonight.

Come on Josh, you have something to prove.


staz
QUOTE
Currently, Zimmer is a senior advisor for the Tampa Bay Rays.



What is he advising them on? Hopefully, nutrition. I mean, his jowls have jowls.
Wakefield's Heart
Effectively a shut-in this weekend, I am attempting to conquer severe bronchitis and am thus forced to watch these crucial, nail-biting-inducing games in virtual isolation, trapped in my lonely apartment, separated from non-SoSHer friends and peers who are a mere five blocks away at present, whooping it up at our local, neighborhood, NYC-based Red Sox bar.

My doctor, a lovely man named Rajeev, has prescribed the following critical antidotes to help heal me during this solitary weekend:

*Antibiotics
*Codeine-laced cough syrup
*Wins

Win it for Boston.
Win it for my bronchus.
koufax32
QUOTE(Wakefield @ Oct 11 2008, 07:31 PM) *
Effectively a shut-in this weekend, I am attempting to conquer severe bronchitis and am thus forced to watch these crucial, nail-biting-inducing games in virtual isolation, trapped in my lonely apartment, separated from non-SoSHer friends and peers who are a mere five blocks away at present, whooping it up at our local, neighborhood, NYC-based Red Sox bar.

My doctor, a lovely man named Rajeev, has prescribed the following critical antidotes to help heal me during this solitary weekend:

*Antibiotics
*Codeine-laced cough syrup
*Wins

Win it for Boston.
Win it for my bronchus.



Mmmm...Codeine.
reggiecleveland
I am still not very confident in Josh. I hope I am wrong. If he is not physicallly right it doesn't matter how tough he is. am also wooried all the talking heads think Kaz will suck.
Orange Julia
Pearl Wilson
That's a nasty burn. Kazmir's a lefty though.
Obscure Name
Please win.
FelixMantilla
Holy crap what a shitty lineup for the Sox. Hopefully Kazmir has nothing tonight.
iowacityiconoclast
C'mon Red Sox. Let's have a lovely blowout. Say, 12-0. After the first inning. Please.
TheoShmeo
I don't like Crisp in there and a lefty first baseman, but Tito's moves just work in the post-season, and that will continue tonight.

Win the Step on their Throats Game, Josh.
Wakefield's Heart
Welcome back to the Big Top!

And Ron Darling thinks to himself, about Caray:

"Don't call me Ronny, d-bag."

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