2007 Draft Order
1. Rays (61-101)
2. Royals (62-100)
3. Cubs (66-96)
4. Pirates (67-95)
5. Orioles (70-92)
6. Nationals (71-91)
7. Brewers (75-87)
8. Rockies (76-86)
9. Diamondbacks (76-86)
10. Giants (76-85)
11. Mariners (78-84)
12. Marlins (78-84)
13. Indians (78-84)
14. Braves (79-83)
15. Reds (80-82)
16. Rangers (80-82)
17. Astros (82-80)
18. Cardinals (83-78)
19. Phillies (85-77)
20. Red Sox (86-76)
21. Blue Jays (87-75)
22. Dodgers (88-74)
23. Padres (88-74)
24. Angels (89-73)
25. White Sox (90-72)
26. Athletics (93-69)
27. Tigers (95-67)
28. Twins (96-66)
29. Mets (97-65)
30. Yankees (97-65)
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Looking at this list, it's like a musical chairs game every year for the first overall pick and top 10 picks between the Royals, Rays, Rockies, Brewers, Pirates, Orioles, and Nationals. Where is the bumper crop of young talent thats supposed to be making these teams competitive? Is it all because the cost of resigning this talent is too great for these teams? What's broken where all these teams are perennially at the top of the draft order?
Aside from that, I'm looking at this and seeing very few high spending teams on minor league talent ahead of the Sox. Maybe the Phillies? Or the Rangers? Hopefully this means the Sox can use their sucking as a way of landing a major signability guy.
Aside from that, I'm looking at this and seeing very few high spending teams on minor league talent ahead of the Sox. Maybe the Phillies? Or the Rangers? Hopefully this means the Sox can use their sucking as a way of landing a major signability guy.
Funny how the Cardinals get a better draft pick despite being in the NLCS...
QUOTE (Williams Head Case @ Oct 10 2006, 01:29 AM)
Aside from that, I'm looking at this and seeing very few high spending teams on minor league talent ahead of the Sox. Maybe the Phillies? Or the Rangers? Hopefully this means the Sox can use their sucking as a way of landing a major signability guy.
The Diamondbacks and Mariners will spend the necessary money to land a player. Even the Royals have shelled out for the BPOTB in recent years.
The bad part of picking where we are is that this is an off-season where not only are we likely to not gain any picks via compensation, we are probably going to lose our pick. Though the FA market isn't fantastic, I have a hard time seeing the Sox not getting at least one player, even if it's a Justin Speier level-player. That's going to cost us the #20 pick which is a damn shame. This is all under the assumption that compensation doesn't get scrapped, which it looks like it won't.
QUOTE (templeUsox @ Oct 10 2006, 09:57 AM)
The Diamondbacks and Mariners will spend the necessary money to land a player. Even the Royals have shelled out for the BPOTB in recent years.
The bad part of picking where we are is that this is an off-season where not only are we likely to not gain any picks via compensation, we are probably going to lose our pick. Though the FA market isn't fantastic, I have a hard time seeing the Sox not getting at least one player, even if it's a Justin Speier level-player. That's going to cost us the #20 pick which is a damn shame. This is all under the assumption that compensation doesn't get scrapped, which it looks like it won't.
The bad part of picking where we are is that this is an off-season where not only are we likely to not gain any picks via compensation, we are probably going to lose our pick. Though the FA market isn't fantastic, I have a hard time seeing the Sox not getting at least one player, even if it's a Justin Speier level-player. That's going to cost us the #20 pick which is a damn shame. This is all under the assumption that compensation doesn't get scrapped, which it looks like it won't.
While it's true we're likely to lose our pick, would we not get a 1st rounder and a sandwich pick for the likes of Trot Nixon should we cut ties with him? Provided of course the team that signs him doesnt have their pick protected (what's the cutoff again?) and that they don't sign someone better which makes Trot a 2nd round pick up plus a sandwich.
QUOTE (Williams Head Case @ Oct 10 2006, 06:59 PM)
While it's true we're likely to lose our pick, would we not get a 1st rounder and a sandwich pick for the likes of Trot Nixon should we cut ties with him? Provided of course the team that signs him doesnt have their pick protected (what's the cutoff again?) and that they don't sign someone better which makes Trot a 2nd round pick up plus a sandwich.
Yes, but only if the Red Sox offer arbitration to Nixon (or Loretta). That's a risk they may not want to take.
Regarding the cutoff, the top 15 picks in the first round are protected.
QUOTE (templeUsox @ Oct 10 2006, 05:57 AM)
The bad part of picking where we are is that this is an off-season where not only are we likely to not gain any picks via compensation, we are probably going to lose our pick. Though the FA market isn't fantastic, I have a hard time seeing the Sox not getting at least one player, even if it's a Justin Speier level-player. That's going to cost us the #20 pick which is a damn shame. This is all under the assumption that compensation doesn't get scrapped, which it looks like it won't.
Does Elias have a list of Type A (top 30% of their position) and Type B (in 31-50 percentile range at their position) free agents for 2007?
SOSH Wiki says that for Type B:
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If the free agent is Type B, Team 1 receives what is known as a "sandwich pick" in the following year's amateur player draft. After round 1 (30 selections) in the draft, Team 1 will receive an extra pick. For more info on sandwich picks, please see the section on the amateur draft.
but about.com says:
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If a team loses a Type B free agent, it gets the signing team’s 1st or 2nd-round pick, but no bonus pick.
What determines whether its a 1st or 2nd round pick?
QUOTE (k-factory @ Oct 15 2006, 02:22 AM)
Does Elias have a list of Type A (top 30% of their position) and Type B (in 31-50 percentile range at their position) free agents for 2007?
SOSH Wiki says that for Type B:
but about.com says: What determines whether its a 1st or 2nd round pick?
SOSH Wiki says that for Type B:
but about.com says: What determines whether its a 1st or 2nd round pick?
If a team is slotted 1-15, their pick is protected. So if they sign a type A or B free agent, they lose their 2nd rounder.
QUOTE (Williams Head Case @ Oct 10 2006, 01:29 AM)
Looking at this list, it's like a musical chairs game every year for the first overall pick and top 10 picks between the Royals, Rays, Rockies, Brewers, Pirates, Orioles, and Nationals. Where is the bumper crop of young talent thats supposed to be making these teams competitive? Is it all because the cost of resigning this talent is too great for these teams? What's broken where all these teams are perennially at the top of the draft order?
I can attempt to speak to this from my looking at the Rays this year. The previous FO drafts combines rushing some of their picks to the majors (Baldelli, Upton, Brazelton-possibly), injuries and just some poor judgement/luck. The new FO has made an effort to emphasize character more and are attempting to have their young players work on their weaknesses pior to bring them up.
Great list of Rays drafts and what happened to the players--although it needs some updating
All of the reports about the structure of the new collective bargaining agreement indicate that there will be no compensation for lost free agents going forward.
QUOTE (AZBlue @ Oct 22 2006, 11:02 AM)
All of the reports about the structure of the new collective bargaining agreement indicate that there will be no compensation for lost free agents going forward.
Maybe a stupid question, but does that include this season?
QUOTE (AZBlue @ Oct 22 2006, 10:02 AM)
All of the reports about the structure of the new collective bargaining agreement indicate that there will be no compensation for lost free agents going forward.
According to the AP (via ESPN), there will be compensation, but it will be cut down some.
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Free Agent Draft Pick Compensation
• Draft-pick compensation for losing Type C free agents is eliminated. Compensation for Type B free agents is changed from direct (losing draft picks) to indirect (sandwich picks). Starting in 2007, Type A free agent redefined to top 20 percent at position (from top 30 percent) and Type B to 21-40 percent (from top 31-50 percent).
• Draft-pick compensation for losing Type C free agents is eliminated. Compensation for Type B free agents is changed from direct (losing draft picks) to indirect (sandwich picks). Starting in 2007, Type A free agent redefined to top 20 percent at position (from top 30 percent) and Type B to 21-40 percent (from top 31-50 percent).
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Updated list, per BA. (SF PJ, if it makes sense to use this to edit the initial list, go for it)
The Sox lose their first-round pick, but get two supplemental picks for Gonzo and Foulke.
First-Round Picks
1. Rays
2. Royals
3. Cubs
4. Pirates
5. Orioles
6. Nationals
7. Brewers
8. Rockies
9. Diamondbacks
10. Giants
11. Mariners
12. Marlins
13. Indians
14. Braves
15. Reds
16. Blue Jays (Frank Catalanotto, A, to Tex)
17. Rangers (Carlos Lee, A, to Hou)
18. Cardinals
19. Phillies
20. Dodgers (Julio Lugo, A, to Bos)
21. Blue Jays
22. Giants (Jason Schmidt, A, to LAD)
23. Padres
24. Rangers (Gary Matthews Jr., A, to LAA)
25. White Sox
26. Athletics
27. Tigers
28. Twins
29. Giants (Moises Alou, A, to NYM)
30. Yankees
Supplemental First-Round Picks
31. Cubs (Juan Pierre, B, to LAD)
32. Nationals (Alfonso Soriano, A, to ChC)
33. Diamondbacks (Craig Counsell, B, to Mil)
34. Giants (Alou)
35. Mariners (Gil Meche, B, to KC)
36. Braves (Danys Baez, A, to Bal)
37. Reds (Rich Aurilia, A, to SF)
38. Rangers (Lee)
39. Cardinals (Jeff Suppan, A, to Mil)
40. Phillies (David Dellucci, A, to Cle)
41. Red Sox (Alex Gonzalez, B, to Cin)
42. Blue Jays (Justin Speier, A, to LAA)
43. Dodgers (Lugo)
44. Padres (Woody Williams, A, to Hou)
45. Angels (Adam Kennedy, B, to StL)
46. Athletics (Barry Zito, A, to SF)
47. Tigers (Jamie Walker, B, to Bal)
48. Mets (Roberto Hernandez, A, to Cle)
49. Nationals (Jose Guillen, B, to Sea)
50. Diamondbacks (Miguel Batista, B, to Sea)
51. Giants (Schmidt)
52. Rangers (Matthews)
53. Red Sox (Keith Foulke, B, to Cle)
54. Blue Jays (Catalanotto)
55. Padres (Dave Roberts, A, to SF)
56. Athletics (Frank Thomas, B, to Tor)
57. Mets (Chad Bradford, A, to Bal)
58. Giants (Mike Stanton, B, to Cin)
59. Rangers (Mark DeRosa, B, to ChC)
60. Blue Jays (Ted Lilly, B, to ChC)
61. Padres (Alan Embree, B, to Oak)
62. Padres (Ryan Klesko, B, to SF)
63. Diamondbacks (have yet to sign 2006 first-rounder Max Scherzer)
Second-Round Changes
66. Nationals (Soriano to ChC)
68. Braves (Baez to Bal)
70. Cardinals (Suppan to Mil)
73. Athletics (Zito to SF)
76. Mets (Hernandez to Cle)
80. Padres (Williams to Hou)
87. Blue Jays (Speier to LAA)
Third-Round Changes
98. Mets (Bradford to Bal)
103. Reds (Aurilia to SF)
106. Phillies (Dellucci to Cle)
Fourth-Round Changes
133. Padres (Roberts to SF)
The Sox lose their first-round pick, but get two supplemental picks for Gonzo and Foulke.
First-Round Picks
1. Rays
2. Royals
3. Cubs
4. Pirates
5. Orioles
6. Nationals
7. Brewers
8. Rockies
9. Diamondbacks
10. Giants
11. Mariners
12. Marlins
13. Indians
14. Braves
15. Reds
16. Blue Jays (Frank Catalanotto, A, to Tex)
17. Rangers (Carlos Lee, A, to Hou)
18. Cardinals
19. Phillies
20. Dodgers (Julio Lugo, A, to Bos)
21. Blue Jays
22. Giants (Jason Schmidt, A, to LAD)
23. Padres
24. Rangers (Gary Matthews Jr., A, to LAA)
25. White Sox
26. Athletics
27. Tigers
28. Twins
29. Giants (Moises Alou, A, to NYM)
30. Yankees
Supplemental First-Round Picks
31. Cubs (Juan Pierre, B, to LAD)
32. Nationals (Alfonso Soriano, A, to ChC)
33. Diamondbacks (Craig Counsell, B, to Mil)
34. Giants (Alou)
35. Mariners (Gil Meche, B, to KC)
36. Braves (Danys Baez, A, to Bal)
37. Reds (Rich Aurilia, A, to SF)
38. Rangers (Lee)
39. Cardinals (Jeff Suppan, A, to Mil)
40. Phillies (David Dellucci, A, to Cle)
41. Red Sox (Alex Gonzalez, B, to Cin)
42. Blue Jays (Justin Speier, A, to LAA)
43. Dodgers (Lugo)
44. Padres (Woody Williams, A, to Hou)
45. Angels (Adam Kennedy, B, to StL)
46. Athletics (Barry Zito, A, to SF)
47. Tigers (Jamie Walker, B, to Bal)
48. Mets (Roberto Hernandez, A, to Cle)
49. Nationals (Jose Guillen, B, to Sea)
50. Diamondbacks (Miguel Batista, B, to Sea)
51. Giants (Schmidt)
52. Rangers (Matthews)
53. Red Sox (Keith Foulke, B, to Cle)
54. Blue Jays (Catalanotto)
55. Padres (Dave Roberts, A, to SF)
56. Athletics (Frank Thomas, B, to Tor)
57. Mets (Chad Bradford, A, to Bal)
58. Giants (Mike Stanton, B, to Cin)
59. Rangers (Mark DeRosa, B, to ChC)
60. Blue Jays (Ted Lilly, B, to ChC)
61. Padres (Alan Embree, B, to Oak)
62. Padres (Ryan Klesko, B, to SF)
63. Diamondbacks (have yet to sign 2006 first-rounder Max Scherzer)
Second-Round Changes
66. Nationals (Soriano to ChC)
68. Braves (Baez to Bal)
70. Cardinals (Suppan to Mil)
73. Athletics (Zito to SF)
76. Mets (Hernandez to Cle)
80. Padres (Williams to Hou)
87. Blue Jays (Speier to LAA)
Third-Round Changes
98. Mets (Bradford to Bal)
103. Reds (Aurilia to SF)
106. Phillies (Dellucci to Cle)
Fourth-Round Changes
133. Padres (Roberts to SF)
The Foulke pick can still change due to some other signings.
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