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Zion train is coming our way

Discussion in 'Mark Blount's Port Cellar: Celtics Forum' started by DannyDarwinism, Aug 14, 2018.

  1. the moops

    the moops Member SoSH Member

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    He does not have mediocre wingspan though. 6' 10.5" wingspan and 8'7" standing reach. Pair those with his insane jumping ability and body - you have someone who plays much bigger.

    At this point the dude is a concensus top of the draft pick. Seems folish to focus on what he can't do
     
  2. LondonSox

    LondonSox Robert the Deuce SoSH Member

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    He can pass and rebound and finish at the rim, if he can shoot OR defend he's a real prospect. I'm unclear on either but
     
  3. Kliq

    Kliq Member SoSH Member

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    I don’t know if he can pass and rebound really though; all we’ve seen is him in HS. He’s a different kid of prospect than Barrett; to me he really needs to prove himself in college against better competition.
     
  4. LondonSox

    LondonSox Robert the Deuce SoSH Member

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    Sure he needs to prove himself but the idea you can't tell if he can pass or rebound in HS is a little silly. Sure there are questions but otherwise I would love to know how teams are going to draft from HS again soon.
    Rebounding instincts and timing show, sure you can understand that some he is not really contested on etc but you can tell if there is natural ability there.
    Passing too, he's really good at passing in transition which requires passing on the move at speed and being aware of others at pace. Now I'm not saying that means he will be good but he tries, in harder circumstances and in free flow pace basketball.

    His highlights already show this, tip offensive rebounds to open players?

    Yes I want to see more but let's not pretend he's a mystery box with nothing known.

    I think defense is the one that you really can't take much from HS, other than rim protection and one vs one defense and even then with large salt pinches
     
  5. chilidawg

    chilidawg Member SoSH Member

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    But he's really not the consensus top pick. I can't find a single mock that has him at the top.
     
  6. Jimbodandy

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    Pretty sure that he means the top handful, not necessarily #1. Nobody has Zion at #1. But top five is still the top of the draft.
     
  7. wade boggs chicken dinner

    wade boggs chicken dinner Member SoSH Member

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    Yeah, the guy is 6'6", 285 and on one of the videos, his head came really close to hitting the rim and he pinned a ball that looked like it was 2/3rds up the backboard. He's going to be able to rebound.

    He looks like he is just as explosive as Robert Williams but bigger.
     
  8. RedOctober3829

    RedOctober3829 Member SoSH Member

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    The only question marks I see potentially with Zion right now is his defensive ability on the perimeter given his size and his outside shooting. Every other part of his game is elite.
     
  9. reggiecleveland

    reggiecleveland sublime Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    This may not be correct about this guy, but many great athletes toil away as undersized forwards that could be great football players. Other than footbal killing you, some of those guys should switch sports.
     
  10. sezwho

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    If he went the direction of the NFL I think his size, wingspan and athleticism would be better served as a Left Tackle than TE (as would his salary and likely career length).

    Also, I think the judges would also have accepted 'Iron like a Lion in Zion'
     
  11. RedOctober3829

    RedOctober3829 Member SoSH Member

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    36 and 13 in the last exhibition game today.
     
    #61 RedOctober3829, Aug 19, 2018
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  12. HowBoutDemSox

    HowBoutDemSox Member SoSH Member

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    Highlights:

     
  13. Sam Ray Not

    Sam Ray Not Member SoSH Member

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    Was about to post. Very impressive — kinda reminds me of Z-Bo and Mike Conley Jr. all rolled into one.
     
  14. DannyDarwinism

    DannyDarwinism Member SoSH Member

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    Duke fans have got to be encouraged by the apparent chemistry between Zion and RJ. You can tell they like playing with each other. This team should be a blast to watch once Reddish and Jones come back and they start playing some decent competition.
     
  15. chilidawg

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    I don't know how you watch that and not be impressed. His skill level is quite a bit better than I'd been led to believe.
     
  16. DrewDawg

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    You still think this after seeing that video?
     
  17. Grin&MartyBarret

    Grin&MartyBarret Member SoSH Member

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    Funny that people keep talking about his being a tight end, because I saw Antonio Gates play basketball a lot when he was at Kent State and that's basically exactly what he looked like.
     
  18. reggiecleveland

    reggiecleveland sublime Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    I think this kid is really good, so this is just cautionary. He is tantalizing prospect and his quickness off his feet reminds me of Barkely.

    But, it is a big difference from that team to the NBA, even to good D1. (I played for a team better than that McGill team) The biggest difference from Canadian ball to the NCAA is the size and athleticism of the forwards. Every time he put it on the floor and went to a secondary move he could simply over power the guys with little trouble. I played against Lorenzo Chalres who did similar things to guys at our level, though ZW is probably a lot better.

    The way the game is spread out now IMHO makes heavy guys not as big an injury risk as when the had to compete for rebounds in traffic every possession and step on feet, get knockd down, come down hard, etc.
     
  19. TripleOT

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    Zion has explosiveness that no player that big has ever had. Barkley was a freak, but he never was hand over the square shot blocking freaky, or hit your head on the rim when dunking freaky.

    This was my first extended look at Williamson. Wow. He was shown making one jumper in the last video, and looked pretty smooth hitting it. He hit a handful or threes in the first game. ZW doesn't look like the kind of guy who wants to settle for jumpers. Zion had a couple of nice passes along with the many rack attacks.

    Of course, he's going to need to stretch the floor to be more than a sideshow in the NBA. I can't imagine Coach K letting him take a lot of outside shots with the bomb squad that K can put around him. We might not get a full understanding of his shooting ability, or lack of it, during his college career.
     
  20. lovegtm

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    He should get to the line enough to generate some data points there though.
     
  21. chilidawg

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    Obviously his physicality and explosiveness stood out against McGill, not surprising given the competition. But what really impressed me was his skill level. He made pull up mid range shots off the dribble, spot up 3's, difficult layups and had several nice assists. Looking forward to seeing him against the big boys of the NCAA.
     
  22. Jimbodandy

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    I was thinking the same thing. We'll get data points from three, but even more so from the line. He'll get to the line a lot.

    A respectable percentage from there for an 18yo would do a lot to dispel doubt. A poor performance will add to the doubt.
     

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