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World Series Game 3: Sox vs. Dodgers

Discussion in '2018 Red Sox Game Threads' started by DrewDawg, Oct 26, 2018.

  1. dhappy42

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    By my rough count, 16 missed ball/strike calls. Over 18 innings, that’s not so bad or unusual.

    But 14 of them were in favor of the Dodgers. That is unusual. And the two calls in favor of the Red Sox were close and calls the Dodgers got too.

    Inexcusable. An early-inning early strike on JD fucked up a key at bat. The late-inning called strike three on Betts was especially egregious. He never complains.
     
  2. In Vino Vinatieri

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    Agree about 99% with your posts: this team is amazing, for the most part I love Cora going for it to get W's on the board, and even though it was a gut punch this team will keep showing up like nothing happened.

    But what really agonizes me about this is that it wasn't a quick-twitch muscle event. It was a series of events, any one of which could have been prevented, like an airline crash. Kinsler simply didn't have to throw the ball. It was a mental error, and one of the worst baseball decisions I've seen in my life. There was a catcher playing first base! Puig wasn't even halfway down the line! Just eat the ball there after you lose your footing.

    First and third, 2 outs, with Barnes up is a dream scenario.
     
  3. Dahabenzapple2

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    And if any Sox fan brings up this reality, they will be called sore losers and whiners, etc. when the truth is that 14 of the 16 were in favor of the Dodgers. Dodger Blue in the Sky, Indeed

    Fuck Tommy Lasorda with a stick
     
  4. BaseballJones

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    The Sox just reeled off six straight wins against Houston and Los Angeles. The game they just lost took LA 18 innings, with the benefit (as we’ve seen in this thread) of a lot of beneficial calls at home plate, to somehow manage to beat Boston by a single run.

    Maybe LA wins the series. Who knows. But I think that even with Eovaldi out of commission tonight that this Red Sox team will come to play. LA is gonna have to ring their A game and maybe then some.
     
  5. Bertha

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    I did not agree with every choice Cora made, but I love his confidence/cojones. He knows his team. Managing to win on the road. Managing with trust in his team to perform. He went all in early and it made for some painful top halves of innings in extras. I hate pulling the slugger for a pinch runner move, but could easily be due to JD’s health. Eovaldi was amazing. Quick hook on porcello is simply post-season baseball these days. I am a new Englander lucky enough to have a free day, so I am well rested after the late night. I do not fear momentum or hangover from This loss. LA celebrating as they did for a 2-1 deficit? Rich hill pitching tonight? I’ll take it. Momentum is tonight’s starter. Plenty of the staff have enough rest.
    Offense is due. Barrett is down the line in RF.
     
  6. DeadlySplitter

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    they had gotten Puig to pop up weakly all night. I was fine with going after him.
     
  7. ricopetro6

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    I agree. My initial reaction was to walk him, but putting the winning run on first is just not smart baseball. It's not like Puig was killing it and he can be pitched to and seems to get himself out a lot.
     
  8. Deathofthebambino

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    And all we're going to hear about going forward when it comes to that game is how the Dodgers pitchers sacked up, etc. The reality is they were getting one absolutely horrific call after another, most of which came during some of the most important at bats in the entire game. The Sox offense shit the bed, but they were also hitting with one hand tied behind their back (both by the ump and by their own manager). The fact that this wasn't a 6-1 loss with the way the ump was calling the zone is amazing in it's own right, but probably would have been the better result for the Sox in the long run.

    I've said it a million times, and others have as well, umpires are going to miss calls, it's human nature, but there is no excuse for inconsistency. You can't call the zone one way for one team and completely differently for the other. Your job as an umpire is to uphold the competitive balance of the game, not sway it in one direction, and at almost every turn last night, Barrett was doing just that. It seemed like every time a Sox hitter got ahead in the count, say 2-0, the next pitch was going to be called a strike, no matter where it was. That shit just cannot happen. Alas, MLB will never a do a damn thing about it.
     
  9. Deathofthebambino

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    I think you have to cobble something together with the staff tonight using ERod and/or Pomeranz, and you leave Sale, Price and Eovaldi stapled to the bench no matter how it plays out. I'll take a 2-2 series tie with Sale going in game 5, Price in 6, and Eovaldi in 7. You also have Porcello out of the pen in games 6 and 7 if need be. We can't "go for it" again tonight, and use up one of those three guys out of the pen tonight, and end up with a 2-2 series tie, and and then have to move everyone up and pitch on short rest.
     
  10. teddywingman

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    Now THAT is funny.
     
  11. lapa

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    You have got to be fucking kidding with this shit.
     
  12. ricopetro6

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    I agree...just wondering how they are going to piece together the middle innings as you don't want to over use kelly/barnes/brasier/kimbrel as well as they will be needed tomorrow most likely. That would mean 3 straight says.
     
  13. Bob Montgomery's Helmet Hat

    Bob Montgomery's Helmet Hat has big, douchey shoulders Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    Three straight days during the WS is no big deal. They've had plenty of rest and have Monday off regardless. And this is the World Series.
     
  14. ricopetro6

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    they can certainly do it, but their effectiveness probably diminishes a bit. No other options though.
     
  15. InsideTheParker

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    I was just looking at the mlbn condensed rebroadcast. When Kinsler didn't slide and was out at home at the end of the tenth, the FOX shot shows no one in the on-deck circle. Was there any shot showing JBJ signaling Kinsler to slide?
     
  16. The Flying Dutchman

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    He was too far down the line to slide. He made the right play causing contact.
     
  17. canyoubelieveit

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    I think it would be very cool if the Red Sox win in 5 or 6 games without any one player being an obvious MVP standout and Eovaldi wins it. We'd have JBJ winning the ALCS MVP batting .200, and Eovaldi winning the WS MVP as a starting pitcher with potentially no wins and one loss.

    His performance last night reminded me a little of Wakefield in game 4 of the 2004 ALCS. Sox lost the game, Wakefield lost his ability to start again in the series, but he saved the staff by pitching over three innings in the pen in a painful loss (that most believed they'd never be able to recover from).
     
  18. HomeRunBaker

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    Exactly. Adrenaline is much more powerful than any effects of throwing an inning or two for 3 consecutive days. This is far different than the regular season where this usage could also affect them in a week or two while pitching without that extra adrenaline.

    We've seen Price get hot less than 24 hours prior to his start and be excellent. We just saw Eovaldi pitch consecutive days, have one day off and be lights out for 90 pitches. It takes a lot to burn out bullpen arms in the World Series with 2 off days baked in. The pen will be plenty rested sans Eovaldi who will be good to go for a key inning in G6 if necessary.
     
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  19. ledsox

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    I don't know about the on deck batter but he was out by so much a slide would not really help there. Catcher would have dropped on him and he might not even have got to the plate. That's how I saw it.

    It's one L. Just like the horrible game 1 vs the Astros.
     
  20. InsideTheParker

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    It's not just like it. This game used the likely game four starter for 7+ innings.
     
  21. Bob Montgomery's Helmet Hat

    Bob Montgomery's Helmet Hat has big, douchey shoulders Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    Also, the Sox are up a game in the series, not down a game.
     
  22. patoaflac

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    When Puig came to bat I told my wife (16 year member of Red Sox nation). I've seen this team in the WS, 2 runs ahead in extras, no runners on base, 2 strikes and...........
    Hope the aftergame doesn’t turn out like it did on October 27, 32 years ago.
     
  23. uncannymanny

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    Are you the team psychologist or something? It’s very deniable.

    It does totally suck that the Sox players had to play 18 innings but the Dodgers’ players didn’t because they scored so many more runs.
     
  24. Norm Siebern

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