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WORLD CUP FINALS: France vs. Croatia

Discussion in '2018 World Cup' started by DrewDawg, Jul 11, 2018.

  1. DrewDawg

    DrewDawg Dorito Dink SoSH Member

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    I don’t have much. I’m in a hotel in Danbury, CT and barely saw any highlights.

    I guess all I can say is France *should* win and if I was going to bet I’d pick them. But....man. How do you say “Cinderella” in Croatian? I know they’re good, but no one picked this.

    Head: 3-1 France
    Heart: 2-1 Croatia
     
  2. OilCanShotTupac

    OilCanShotTupac Sunny von Bulow Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    I’m sorry.
     
  3. Ale Xander

    Ale Xander Member SoSH Member

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    At least Germany isn't playing

    Then again the game is in Russia so they couldn't make it
     
  4. SocrManiac

    SocrManiac Member SoSH Member

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    If that logic held, they would have had a cakewalk in 1998.
     
  5. Zomp

    Zomp Turkey Virgin Dope

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    I think France takes it comfortably, but also all of the pressure is on them. If they lose the final that will be two tournaments in a row where they are heavily favored and couldn't get it done.
     
  6. Zososoxfan

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    I expect this to be a really tight match, more so than most WC semis and finals. You already know what France is gonna do - defend with 7 and try to catch Croatia with Mbappe's speed (I thought Super Jan and Belgium did about as good of a job as reasonably possible frustrating him) or Griezmann's quality (if he can find it again). Maybe Giroud finishes one for a change. Pogba will maraud forward a bit and maybe Matuidi/Tolisso too, but probably not. France have little dynamism in their attack, but they have shown that they can start a break against a good press with tight passing combos in the MF to spring their forwards. I'd expect Croatia to pack the MF with their wingers tracking back and trying to gum up Pogba.

    Croatia are savvy enough to know not to spend too much energy taking what France gives them and luring them forward. I expect to see a really tough MF battle (seriously, how good is Modric-Rakitic-Brozovic vs. Kante-Pogba-Tweety/Tolisso) with a fair amount of backwards passing. Mandzukic is going to have to deal with the 2 excellent French CBs, but Varane has clearly had a better defensive cup than Umtiti. Perisic may get the better of Pavard, but Varane has snuffed out so many dangerous attacks that I'd expect Perisic to avoid Varane's space as much as possible. Rebic and Mandzukic should try to go 2v2 against Umtiti and Hernandez as much as possible, but Kante will help out along with the other MF. Modric vs. Kante is a matchup for the ages. Belgium pretty much abandoned the middle against France, but I don't think Croatia will. I have a ton of love for Lukaku, but I don't expect Mandzu to get shut down completely like Lukaku did in the Belgium match.

    I see this one 1-1 at the end of regulation, with one of the ridiculous French players doing something silly getting them the win before pens. Or you know, just another set piece.
     
  7. TheYaz67

    TheYaz67 Member SoSH Member

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    FTFY
     
  8. Philip Jeff Frye

    Philip Jeff Frye Member SoSH Member

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    The French didn't do so well on their last foray to Moscow either.
     
  9. Ale Xander

    Ale Xander Member SoSH Member

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    Not sure who I'm rooting for yet but I have to root for someone, can't be a neutral. France has the food, wine, and was technically on the Allies side, Crotia has the underdog and never won status. I think I can find a place that will be pro-France, especially with Bastille Day today, what's a place that will be a pro-Croatia crowd?
     
  10. Dernells Casket n Flagon

    Dernells Casket n Flagon Member SoSH Member

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    Unless either you or both your parents grew up in France, everyone food be supporting the country with a 4 million person population, who's never been close to this stage in their countries history.
     
  11. Schnerres

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    Gotta wonder where Niko Kalinic is hiding today...
     
  12. grandsalami

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    I didn’t care for Croatia at the beginning of the tournament for their rough style of play. Ive really taken to them as the tournament has progressed though and hope they take it today. Will be interesting to watch how Mbappe handles today as well.
     
  13. Royal Reader

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    Nah. France has a very diverse squad. Croatia is all white people. There's a bunch of nasty nativist movements in Europe right now. Especially if Pogba plays badly, I'm not sure I want to see what the aftermath of a Croat win looks like, even if I like Modric.

    Also, I'm pretty sure making the semi is getting close to the final.
     
  14. Cuzittt

    Cuzittt Bouncing with Anger Dope

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    This is their fourth time in the final four (once as Croatia previously, twice as part of Yugoslavia)... Although it is their first time to a final.

    I'm still going with France.
     
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  15. SocrManiac

    SocrManiac Member SoSH Member

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    When do you start drinking for an 11A kickoff for teams you aren’t invested in?
     
  16. mikeford

    mikeford woolwich! SoSH Member

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    Hi, you're forgetting about GAMBLING which is why I will be rooting for France.
     
  17. coremiller

    coremiller Member SoSH Member

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    No team that advances twice on penalties should win the World Cup.

    Arise, children of the Fatherland, the day of glory has arrived!
    Against us, tyranny's bloody standard is raised!
    Do you hear, in the countryside, the roar of those ferocious soldiers?
    They're coming right into your arms to cut the throats of your sons, your women!

    To arms, citizens!
    Form your battalions!
    Let's march, let's march!
    Let an impure blood water our furrows!
     
  18. McBride11

    McBride11 Well-Known Member Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    I was in Zagreb mid June for a conference. The Croats are very friendly people, great food, and beautiful women. Their racchia is fantastic as well. Can't wait to go back and visit the gorgeous coast.

    The French made me miss my flight back and lost my bag. We flew back on the first Saturday of the WC and the shuttle driver literally stopped in the middle of a taxiway to watch a goal replay on his phone.

    #teamCroatia (definitely an uphill battle)
     
  19. coremiller

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  20. Investor 11

    Investor 11 Plobbably the greatest videographer ever Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    It’s an 8am kickoff here and I chose 730.So I’d say you’re in the clear.
     
  21. Boston Brawler

    Boston Brawler Member SoSH Member

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    Anyone know of a good free non subscription stream? Just moved and don’t have cable set up yet
     
  22. pokey_reese

    pokey_reese Well-Known Member Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    Infield Infidel teaching korea american SoSH Member

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  24. McBride11

    McBride11 Well-Known Member Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    Like Croatia in their red/white checked and France in their blue kits
     
  25. teddykgb

    teddykgb Member SoSH Member

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    Nice of Mandzukic to bring his defender into Perisic path and simultaneously block the run.

    Kind of nervy start from France
     
  26. singaporesoxfan

    singaporesoxfan Well-Known Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    I am shocked- shocked- to find that gambling is going on in here!
     
  27. pokey_reese

    pokey_reese Well-Known Member Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    Croatia really pressing the action
     
  28. teddykgb

    teddykgb Member SoSH Member

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    I’ve chosen to believe that Mockba is somehow an insult
     
  29. singaporesoxfan

    singaporesoxfan Well-Known Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    Anyone else watching this on Fox and having the crowd sounds drown out the commentary?
     
  30. teddykgb

    teddykgb Member SoSH Member

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    This is a feature, not a bug
     
  31. Infield Infidel

    Infield Infidel teaching korea american SoSH Member

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    Croatia has been more physical so far
     
  32. Ale Xander

    Ale Xander Member SoSH Member

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    France has the last two and a huge advantage in food.
     
  33. teddykgb

    teddykgb Member SoSH Member

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    A lot of times in these big matches if you can ride out a team’s best shot while they run themselves ragged in the opening 20 you can really turn the screw the rest of the match. France have generally invited pressure all tournament so it may not be a plan or anything but Croatia need to be prepared to play this hard for up to another 120
     
  34. McBride11

    McBride11 Well-Known Member Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    Bread and snails makes great food?!
     
  35. Ale Xander

    Ale Xander Member SoSH Member

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    FIFA mandate not yet in effect yay
     
  36. Ale Xander

    Ale Xander Member SoSH Member

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    You're doing it wrong
     
  37. Ale Xander

    Ale Xander Member SoSH Member

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    I'm team France for the main reason that their surnames have a lot of different last letters

    All Croatian players end in C I think
     
  38. Ale Xander

    Ale Xander Member SoSH Member

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    Plus Mbappe is younger than Modric so we'll see him for a longer time
     
  39. McBride11

    McBride11 Well-Known Member Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    Sorry I forgot escargot, aka tortured geese. Go Croatia!
     
  40. teddykgb

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    The classic put your hand up to ask for the through ball and then don’t make the run when the ball is played
     
  41. McBride11

    McBride11 Well-Known Member Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    Oh man, Perisic do better with that break.
     
  42. Ale Xander

    Ale Xander Member SoSH Member

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    You're definitely doing it wrong
     
  43. pokey_reese

    pokey_reese Well-Known Member Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    Croatia is just gonna tucker themselves out
     
  44. McBride11

    McBride11 Well-Known Member Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    nice dive Griezmann
     
  45. pokey_reese

    pokey_reese Well-Known Member Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    Bullshit if they score on that
     
  46. JGray38

    JGray38 Well-Known Member Silver Supporter SoSH Member

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    And France scores on a dive.
     
  47. Ale Xander

    Ale Xander Member SoSH Member

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    It comes with Bearnaise sauce so it's ok
     
  48. LogansDad

    LogansDad Member SoSH Member

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    That's dumb.
     
  49. McBride11

    McBride11 Well-Known Member Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    What a lot of BS. Dive earns France a fucking goal. Where is VAR

    Pogba is also offside
     
  50. IHateDaveKerpen

    IHateDaveKerpen Well-Known Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    Oof. Croatia's early dominance doesn't amount to a hill of beans.

    Brutal for them to go behind on a dive.
     

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