Who's your top ten?
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Under each ranking, we will include a comment from a different voter, so feel free to include a sentence or two about the pick, making fun of the pick, or whatever you want. Have some fun with it.
This week, the comments are almost all Ricardo, all the time. But that won't be the case every week. Everyone who puts in a list and a comment (and sends me an email) can participate, every week.
We also won't necessarily do a "top teams" list every week. Hambone suggested top X cheerleaders - with photo evidence. While not exactly what we want, it is a good idea. If you have an idea for a Top X (ten is an arbitrary round number - go over or under as necessary) list, post it here or let me know via email.
Thanks folks - we hope you enjoy this feature every week.
If you want to be a voter, please send me an email (david.mccullough@sonsofsamhorn.com)
Under each ranking, we will include a comment from a different voter, so feel free to include a sentence or two about the pick, making fun of the pick, or whatever you want. Have some fun with it.
This week, the comments are almost all Ricardo, all the time. But that won't be the case every week. Everyone who puts in a list and a comment (and sends me an email) can participate, every week.
We also won't necessarily do a "top teams" list every week. Hambone suggested top X cheerleaders - with photo evidence. While not exactly what we want, it is a good idea. If you have an idea for a Top X (ten is an arbitrary round number - go over or under as necessary) list, post it here or let me know via email.
Thanks folks - we hope you enjoy this feature every week.
Will you apologize for ranking ASU too low?TomRicardo said:
http://m.espn.go.com/ncf/story?storyId=11822679
Seriously that loss to UCLA was bad, but it was the backup QBs first start and there were critical errors that turned a statistically close game into a blowout.
Since then the defense has stepped up considerably from what had been poor tackling technique.
Now I have no idea what to expect as I know better than to have hopes and dreams for ASU (or Philadelphia Eagles) football.
Infield Infidel said:
Bill Hancock said "If Georgia Southern is the Sun Belt champion and is bowl eligible, the committee would consider them for the G5 spot"
G5 Spot is wonderfully suggestive
Read more here: http://www.idahostatesman.com/2014/11/04/3467899/college-football-playoff-snubs.html#storylink=cpy
Hambone said:
If they beat Notre Dame they should be five or six right?
Basically if Arizona St wins out they go to the playoff.
Looking at it now:
Mississippi St.
FSU
Oregon
Arizona St
Alabama
Kansas St
TCU
Baylor
All control their own fate.
Auburn pretty much does but could be locked out (Oregon beats Arizona St in PAC-12, TCU blows out Kansas St rest of Big-12 and somehow leap frogs Auburn). It is super unlikely a one loss Auburn doesn't make it though
Notre Dame needs help (Auburn loss, Big 12 eating itself alive, and/or Arizona St to beat Oregon)
Michigan St needs more help (pretty much everything above plus a Notre Dame loss)
Ohio St and Nebraska need miracles.
Duke needs a ACC Championship blowout plus a lot of losses.
Thats it those are teams still alive. Ole Miss could theoretically get in (Alabama loses to LSU and Auburn, Auburn loses to Georgia and possibly A&M, Miss St losses to Alabama and Ole Miss). Georgia could win the SEC and get in (Missouri loses to Arkansas or A&M).
Mississippi St.
FSU
Oregon
Arizona St
Alabama
Kansas St
TCU
Baylor
All control their own fate.
Auburn pretty much does but could be locked out (Oregon beats Arizona St in PAC-12, TCU blows out Kansas St rest of Big-12 and somehow leap frogs Auburn). It is super unlikely a one loss Auburn doesn't make it though
Notre Dame needs help (Auburn loss, Big 12 eating itself alive, and/or Arizona St to beat Oregon)
Michigan St needs more help (pretty much everything above plus a Notre Dame loss)
Ohio St and Nebraska need miracles.
Duke needs a ACC Championship blowout plus a lot of losses.
Thats it those are teams still alive. Ole Miss could theoretically get in (Alabama loses to LSU and Auburn, Auburn loses to Georgia and possibly A&M, Miss St losses to Alabama and Ole Miss). Georgia could win the SEC and get in (Missouri loses to Arkansas or A&M).
Baylor needs help. They could knock out K-State themselves, but they need TCU to lose, and probably other teams too, especially Alabama. Baylor's non-conference is terrible, and their loss to WVU is a chip in Bama's favor if it comes down to those two for #4. 1-loss Auburn probably gets in ahead of them too.
There is no way Aurburn doesn't control its fate being #3 now and still having Iron Bowl and Georgia on the schedule.
1. Mississippi State. Undefeated in vaunted SEC West. Dominant defense, bowling ball back, quality quarterback.
2. Oregon. Missing 60% of offensive line in a one possession Thursday night loss to Arizona. Led by best player and by far the most valuable player in the land.
3. TCU. One bad quarter vs. Baylor from an undefeated season. Played 5 quality opponents in 6 weeks and put up 82 on the 6th.
4. Alabama. Play dramatic last possessions. Need to control costly turnovers late in games.
5. Florida State. Have they played anybody? And where did they misplace the "On" switch?
6. Auburn. Play down to their competition. Iron Bowl will determine if season is a success.
7. Ole Miss. 2nd best team in Mississippi. Egg Bowl will determine if season is a success.
8. Arizona State. Allowed 62 points to UCLA. Can they win without big plays?
9. Baylor. Finally beat Oklahoma on the road, But can they win without scoring 45?
10. LSU. Are they the best 3-loss team in history? Sorely miss last year's passing attack of Mettenberger, Landry. and Beckham Jr.
2. Oregon. Missing 60% of offensive line in a one possession Thursday night loss to Arizona. Led by best player and by far the most valuable player in the land.
3. TCU. One bad quarter vs. Baylor from an undefeated season. Played 5 quality opponents in 6 weeks and put up 82 on the 6th.
4. Alabama. Play dramatic last possessions. Need to control costly turnovers late in games.
5. Florida State. Have they played anybody? And where did they misplace the "On" switch?
6. Auburn. Play down to their competition. Iron Bowl will determine if season is a success.
7. Ole Miss. 2nd best team in Mississippi. Egg Bowl will determine if season is a success.
8. Arizona State. Allowed 62 points to UCLA. Can they win without big plays?
9. Baylor. Finally beat Oklahoma on the road, But can they win without scoring 45?
10. LSU. Are they the best 3-loss team in history? Sorely miss last year's passing attack of Mettenberger, Landry. and Beckham Jr.
This is a tough one. Would FC accept submissions via PM, by the way?
1. Mississippi State. In college football, we reward the undefeated, even when they stock their non-conference schedule with cream puffs. I'm not convinced by their defense, but Dak Prescott should be the runaway Heisman winner if they make the playoff. I think they finish with two losses, though.
2. Alabama. The one loss is on the road to a top team, and quality wins are accumulating. Obviously, the problem with ranking the SEC is someone gets to play at home, and one big play has decided several big games. I think they win out. If they lose to Auburn, there's a strong possibility of a four-way tie for the SEC West.
3. Oregon. Teams keep trying to play ball-control against the Ducks, and even with some success against them, Mariotta outscores them all. Mariotta should be a runaway second in the Heisman voting. Hard to explain the home loss to Arizona.
4. Florida State. They have to be up high as long as no one beats them, but they don't play a schedule that makes a case for anything. Their two toughest games remain. If they win out, they deserve a spot in the playoff.
5/6. Mississippi/Auburn. Two elite teams in that division from hell that happen to have two losses. I want to rank Auburn higher, because of that incredible strength of schedule.
7. Ohio State. In freshman J.T. Barrett's second start, his first against major college competition, he went 9 for 29 with three interceptions and the result was one of the more incongruous losses of the year by a top team. Otherwise, this team has been dominant against weak competition and probably slides into the playoff at 12-1 if they continue that dominance against the Nebraska/Wisconsin winner.
8. Texas Christian. A weak schedule and a fourth-quarter collapse against their only good road opponent this year and a very shaky hold at West Virginia, a decent, but not top team. Some might call the Kansas State win a signature win, but I think they need Minnesota to beat Ohio State to make a playoff claim. And I don't see that happening.
9. UCLA. Turnovers derailed home games against Utah and Oregon, and those losses add up to a playoff eliminator, but this is a very good team that could hold its own anywhere but the SEC West.
10. Georgia. Some road and neutral site struggles, but this is a team capable of beating anyone. I think they'll give Auburn a good run for it next week.
1. Mississippi State. In college football, we reward the undefeated, even when they stock their non-conference schedule with cream puffs. I'm not convinced by their defense, but Dak Prescott should be the runaway Heisman winner if they make the playoff. I think they finish with two losses, though.
2. Alabama. The one loss is on the road to a top team, and quality wins are accumulating. Obviously, the problem with ranking the SEC is someone gets to play at home, and one big play has decided several big games. I think they win out. If they lose to Auburn, there's a strong possibility of a four-way tie for the SEC West.
3. Oregon. Teams keep trying to play ball-control against the Ducks, and even with some success against them, Mariotta outscores them all. Mariotta should be a runaway second in the Heisman voting. Hard to explain the home loss to Arizona.
4. Florida State. They have to be up high as long as no one beats them, but they don't play a schedule that makes a case for anything. Their two toughest games remain. If they win out, they deserve a spot in the playoff.
5/6. Mississippi/Auburn. Two elite teams in that division from hell that happen to have two losses. I want to rank Auburn higher, because of that incredible strength of schedule.
7. Ohio State. In freshman J.T. Barrett's second start, his first against major college competition, he went 9 for 29 with three interceptions and the result was one of the more incongruous losses of the year by a top team. Otherwise, this team has been dominant against weak competition and probably slides into the playoff at 12-1 if they continue that dominance against the Nebraska/Wisconsin winner.
8. Texas Christian. A weak schedule and a fourth-quarter collapse against their only good road opponent this year and a very shaky hold at West Virginia, a decent, but not top team. Some might call the Kansas State win a signature win, but I think they need Minnesota to beat Ohio State to make a playoff claim. And I don't see that happening.
9. UCLA. Turnovers derailed home games against Utah and Oregon, and those losses add up to a playoff eliminator, but this is a very good team that could hold its own anywhere but the SEC West.
10. Georgia. Some road and neutral site struggles, but this is a team capable of beating anyone. I think they'll give Auburn a good run for it next week.
1. Miss St - An undefeated team in one of the strongest conferences in CFB, Miss St will be the undisputed top ranked team until they drop a game.
2. FSU - Their schedule hasn't allowed for many marquee win this season, but a defending national champion on a 25 game win streak has to be in the top 4.
3. TCU - Despite their loss to Baylor I feel TCU is the strongest team in the Big 12. They completely controlled a very good Kansas St team.
4. Oregon - Shouldn't have much trouble closing out their last 2 conference games . The PAC 12 championship game will be for a playoff berth.
5. Alabama - Huge game next week at home vs Miss St., this isn't one of Saban's strongest teams but they keep on finding ways to win. Sims has the potential to pretty special player.
6. Arizona St. - Arizona St. was in need of a statement win and they got over a Notre Dame team many had in their top 10. The over/under in the Pac12 championship may be close to 90.
7. Baylor - There's a pretty good argument to be made this is the Big 12'a best team. Their comeback win over TCU was very impressive , however the lack of a Big 12 championship game may ultimately keep them out of the playoff. If the SEC teams eat each other alive , Baylor / TCU could make the Big 12 a dark horse for having 2 teams in the playoffs.
8. Auburn - Auburn has been playing with fire all season long , narrowly beating Ole Miss and K.State and it finally caught up with them on Saturday. Despite the 2 losses they stay in the top 10 because they are probably one of 3 or 4 teams who can beat anyone in the country.
9. Ohio St - While Ohio St realizes a immediate bump from beating Michigan St, the long term impact will be that B1G will deservedly not be represented in the playoff. The conferences best non-conference win belongs to last place Indiana (over Missouri)
10. UCLA - With Brett Hundley finally playing up to preseason expectations , and Pac12 teams are realizing how dangerous this team can be, home losses to Utah and Oregon will make this a season of what could have been.
Honorable Mentions: Arizona , Georgia , Ole Miss
2. FSU - Their schedule hasn't allowed for many marquee win this season, but a defending national champion on a 25 game win streak has to be in the top 4.
3. TCU - Despite their loss to Baylor I feel TCU is the strongest team in the Big 12. They completely controlled a very good Kansas St team.
4. Oregon - Shouldn't have much trouble closing out their last 2 conference games . The PAC 12 championship game will be for a playoff berth.
5. Alabama - Huge game next week at home vs Miss St., this isn't one of Saban's strongest teams but they keep on finding ways to win. Sims has the potential to pretty special player.
6. Arizona St. - Arizona St. was in need of a statement win and they got over a Notre Dame team many had in their top 10. The over/under in the Pac12 championship may be close to 90.
7. Baylor - There's a pretty good argument to be made this is the Big 12'a best team. Their comeback win over TCU was very impressive , however the lack of a Big 12 championship game may ultimately keep them out of the playoff. If the SEC teams eat each other alive , Baylor / TCU could make the Big 12 a dark horse for having 2 teams in the playoffs.
8. Auburn - Auburn has been playing with fire all season long , narrowly beating Ole Miss and K.State and it finally caught up with them on Saturday. Despite the 2 losses they stay in the top 10 because they are probably one of 3 or 4 teams who can beat anyone in the country.
9. Ohio St - While Ohio St realizes a immediate bump from beating Michigan St, the long term impact will be that B1G will deservedly not be represented in the playoff. The conferences best non-conference win belongs to last place Indiana (over Missouri)
10. UCLA - With Brett Hundley finally playing up to preseason expectations , and Pac12 teams are realizing how dangerous this team can be, home losses to Utah and Oregon will make this a season of what could have been.
Honorable Mentions: Arizona , Georgia , Ole Miss
1) Miss St. If they win at least one of the next 2 I think they make the playoff even if they somehow lose to Bama and don't play in the SEC title game
2) FSU. They're not as good as they were last year, but they have won 25 straight games. If they can add the 4 more wins against decent to good teams to finish out the year then they deserve to be in the playoff. And IF they lose to anyone left on their schedule then they have no business at all being in the playoff
3 TCU. Just an incredibly fun team to watch, and Boykin is my Heosman winner. They've been screwed before and it wouldn't stun me if they get screwed again. Played 8 bad minutes against a legit top 10 opponent and lost by 3
4 Bama I think they lose at least one the rest of the way and are not in
5) Oregon. Won't be the least bit surprised if they find a way to screw it up again
6) Baylor. Unbelievable offense and their defense is improving. Incredibly fun team to watch
7) Arizona St. Seem headed for a battle with Oregon for a playoff spot, but watch out for Zona
8) Ole Miss. So very close. to so much more. Still an outstanding team
9) Auburn. To losses won't be enough to get in, but a team that could win the whole thing if they were to get in
10) Ohio State. Terrible conference. Very inconsistent (Penn State game, blah), signature win against MSU, but nothing else of any note so far. If they beat Minny that becomes easily their second best win on the year. Lost to a lousy VT team
2) FSU. They're not as good as they were last year, but they have won 25 straight games. If they can add the 4 more wins against decent to good teams to finish out the year then they deserve to be in the playoff. And IF they lose to anyone left on their schedule then they have no business at all being in the playoff
3 TCU. Just an incredibly fun team to watch, and Boykin is my Heosman winner. They've been screwed before and it wouldn't stun me if they get screwed again. Played 8 bad minutes against a legit top 10 opponent and lost by 3
4 Bama I think they lose at least one the rest of the way and are not in
5) Oregon. Won't be the least bit surprised if they find a way to screw it up again
6) Baylor. Unbelievable offense and their defense is improving. Incredibly fun team to watch
7) Arizona St. Seem headed for a battle with Oregon for a playoff spot, but watch out for Zona
8) Ole Miss. So very close. to so much more. Still an outstanding team
9) Auburn. To losses won't be enough to get in, but a team that could win the whole thing if they were to get in
10) Ohio State. Terrible conference. Very inconsistent (Penn State game, blah), signature win against MSU, but nothing else of any note so far. If they beat Minny that becomes easily their second best win on the year. Lost to a lousy VT team
1. Miss State - they'll stay there until they lose
2. FSU - same deal, though they do everything they can to change that
3. Oregon - Similar to FSU, but keep winning and keep the spot.
4. Alabama - Beat Auburn. Move up.
5. TCU - Beat K. State. Move up.
6. ASU - #1 in our hearts. More seriously defense has really stepped up after UCLA.
7. Baylor - Whoop Oklahoma. Move up.
8. Auburn - Should've beaten A&M, but should've lost at Ole Miss. Still can't rank them below next 2.
9. Ohio State - They'd lose to Ole Miss
10. UGA - Gurley's coming back
2. FSU - same deal, though they do everything they can to change that
3. Oregon - Similar to FSU, but keep winning and keep the spot.
4. Alabama - Beat Auburn. Move up.
5. TCU - Beat K. State. Move up.
6. ASU - #1 in our hearts. More seriously defense has really stepped up after UCLA.
7. Baylor - Whoop Oklahoma. Move up.
8. Auburn - Should've beaten A&M, but should've lost at Ole Miss. Still can't rank them below next 2.
9. Ohio State - They'd lose to Ole Miss
10. UGA - Gurley's coming back
The official Top 10 for the playoff (Updated 11/11/14)
1. Miss St.
2. Oregon
3. FSU
4. TCU
5. Bama
6. Arizona St.
7. Baylor
8. Ohio St.
9. Auburn
10. Ole Miss
1. Miss St.
2. Oregon
3. FSU
4. TCU
5. Bama
6. Arizona St.
7. Baylor
8. Ohio St.
9. Auburn
10. Ole Miss
MSU vs. Alabama has the potential to be electrifying this weekend. Or, the Tide could just roll MSU and the majority of the country would haz sads again.
Chemistry Schmemistry said:
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1) Alabama
2) FSU
3) Oregon
4) Miss St
5) Ohio State
6) TCU
7) Baylor
8) UCLA
9) Ole Miss
10) Michigan State
2) FSU
3) Oregon
4) Miss St
5) Ohio State
6) TCU
7) Baylor
8) UCLA
9) Ole Miss
10) Michigan State
1) FSU - I don't believe they are the best team in the country, but 26 straight wins is a lot. I do think they have another gear, and could win in a playoff if the matchups went right, but will drop them a ton if they lose a game
2) Bama - I don't think this is as good as some of Saban's prior Bama teams, but they might have the best QB Saban has had
3) Oregon - I'm moving them over TCU after the dud TCU put on the field this week
(4-6 is a complete tossup to me)
4) TCU - If the Big 12 makes it through at 11-1 I will give them the 4th spot
5) Baylor - Same as TCU, not sure which I rank higher if both get to 11-1
6) Mississippi St - Pulled an FSU yesterday and no showed the first half against Bama. Still could have one it had the one replay gone their way
7) Ole Miss I still really like the Rebels,
8) Ohio State - Minny game did not convince me they deserve more
9) Georgia - Still can't figuire out how they lost to FLorida
10) Wisconsin. Maybe Honorary for the week
2) Bama - I don't think this is as good as some of Saban's prior Bama teams, but they might have the best QB Saban has had
3) Oregon - I'm moving them over TCU after the dud TCU put on the field this week
(4-6 is a complete tossup to me)
4) TCU - If the Big 12 makes it through at 11-1 I will give them the 4th spot
5) Baylor - Same as TCU, not sure which I rank higher if both get to 11-1
6) Mississippi St - Pulled an FSU yesterday and no showed the first half against Bama. Still could have one it had the one replay gone their way
7) Ole Miss I still really like the Rebels,
8) Ohio State - Minny game did not convince me they deserve more
9) Georgia - Still can't figuire out how they lost to FLorida
10) Wisconsin. Maybe Honorary for the week
1) Alabama beat #1, 59-0 over Tamu looks much better now
2) Oregon - benefit by being off
3) Miss st - suffered from Seminole disease. Dak needs to play better
4) Fsu - still have not found on switch
5) Baylor benefit by bring off
6) Tcu- Kansas? Really?
7) Georgia- if they beat gt and sec cg they could go to playoffs
8) ole miss- quality wins
9) osu- benefit of the doubt
10) pac12 runner up
2) Oregon - benefit by being off
3) Miss st - suffered from Seminole disease. Dak needs to play better
4) Fsu - still have not found on switch
5) Baylor benefit by bring off
6) Tcu- Kansas? Really?
7) Georgia- if they beat gt and sec cg they could go to playoffs
8) ole miss- quality wins
9) osu- benefit of the doubt
10) pac12 runner up
1. Alabama - Have the beat the best to be the best right? Alabama's win over Miss. St. moves them up to 1 in my poll. A game where they always looked like they were in control. Wins over A&M and WVU are also beginning to look more impressive as the season wears on. They will have a tune up this week before a big match up against Auburn.
2. Florida St. - Their wins lack style points, but they keep on getting the job as they extend their win streak to 26. Win Duke fading they shouldn't have another real test, until the playoff.
3. Oregon. - I think Oregon's position in the top 4 is relatively safe for now absent a shocking loss in their last two games. ASU's loss this weekend eliminated the chance of the the PAC12 championship game becoming a play-in game for this years playoff.
4. TCU - Their performance this weekend against Kansas was concerning, not so much them falling down earlier but their inability to separate when given the opportunity in the second half. TCU may be ripe for an upset this week when they travel to Austin to play the Longhorns.
5. Miss. St. - They definitely had the talent to stay with Alabama but the game seemed too big for them at times, they will get this week to regroup against Vandy at home before they go on the road for the Egg Bowl. All 3 of the teams ranked ahead of them have struggled, if any of them slip up Miss. St. could easily slide back in to the top 4.
6. Baylor - It may come down to style points between the Bears and TCU and if it does I'm beginning to have more faith that Baylor will pass TCU before the year is up. It would also be in Baylor's best interest for K-State not to drop another game before their end of the season show down. A convincing win over the Wildcats would do a lot toward getting Baylor into the playoffs.
7. Ohio St. - I guess the best thing you can say about Ohio State is they didn't have a let down against an average Minnesota team. Nebraska losing hurts OSU's chances of getting an high profile win in the B1G championship game. Its going to take a lot of crazy things happening for the Buckeyes to even be considered for a top 4 spot.
8. Georgia - When good Georgia shows up they beat any team in the country (SEC West Champion beware), however bad Georgia can also lose to almost anyone (Florida and South Carolina).
9. UCLA - A chance at a for a rematch with Oregon in the PAC12 championship game is up for grabs when the Bruins play USC this weekend. The Bruins are more than capable of spoiling another Oregon season.
10. Kansas St. - If they hadn't let the Auburn game slip away, the situation in the Big 12 would really be crazy. Instead Kansas St. will be regulated to trying to spoil Baylor's season now.
2. Florida St. - Their wins lack style points, but they keep on getting the job as they extend their win streak to 26. Win Duke fading they shouldn't have another real test, until the playoff.
3. Oregon. - I think Oregon's position in the top 4 is relatively safe for now absent a shocking loss in their last two games. ASU's loss this weekend eliminated the chance of the the PAC12 championship game becoming a play-in game for this years playoff.
4. TCU - Their performance this weekend against Kansas was concerning, not so much them falling down earlier but their inability to separate when given the opportunity in the second half. TCU may be ripe for an upset this week when they travel to Austin to play the Longhorns.
5. Miss. St. - They definitely had the talent to stay with Alabama but the game seemed too big for them at times, they will get this week to regroup against Vandy at home before they go on the road for the Egg Bowl. All 3 of the teams ranked ahead of them have struggled, if any of them slip up Miss. St. could easily slide back in to the top 4.
6. Baylor - It may come down to style points between the Bears and TCU and if it does I'm beginning to have more faith that Baylor will pass TCU before the year is up. It would also be in Baylor's best interest for K-State not to drop another game before their end of the season show down. A convincing win over the Wildcats would do a lot toward getting Baylor into the playoffs.
7. Ohio St. - I guess the best thing you can say about Ohio State is they didn't have a let down against an average Minnesota team. Nebraska losing hurts OSU's chances of getting an high profile win in the B1G championship game. Its going to take a lot of crazy things happening for the Buckeyes to even be considered for a top 4 spot.
8. Georgia - When good Georgia shows up they beat any team in the country (SEC West Champion beware), however bad Georgia can also lose to almost anyone (Florida and South Carolina).
9. UCLA - A chance at a for a rematch with Oregon in the PAC12 championship game is up for grabs when the Bruins play USC this weekend. The Bruins are more than capable of spoiling another Oregon season.
10. Kansas St. - If they hadn't let the Auburn game slip away, the situation in the Big 12 would really be crazy. Instead Kansas St. will be regulated to trying to spoil Baylor's season now.
It's with a heavy heart I submit this weeks top 10.
1. Oregon - Appear to be hitting their stride
2. FSU - Will they get a wake up call?
3. Alabama - Looked good in their spring game
4. Miss State - Less competitive than W. Carolina
5. TCU - Really tough call vs Baylor
6. Baylor - Maybe above TCU
7. Ohio State - Can't keep FSU at the top and fault them for not breaking away until late
8. UGA - May make things interested
9 .Michigan State - Stomped Rutgers
10. UCLA - Look great sometimes, awful others, but keep winning in a tough division
1. Oregon - Appear to be hitting their stride
2. FSU - Will they get a wake up call?
3. Alabama - Looked good in their spring game
4. Miss State - Less competitive than W. Carolina
5. TCU - Really tough call vs Baylor
6. Baylor - Maybe above TCU
7. Ohio State - Can't keep FSU at the top and fault them for not breaking away until late
8. UGA - May make things interested
9 .Michigan State - Stomped Rutgers
10. UCLA - Look great sometimes, awful others, but keep winning in a tough division
This CFP Poll episode has been much better, they got the rankings out quickly, and Scott Van Pelt has been good at facilitating discussion.
This article pretty accurately explains why I think Ohio State is underrated. I'm not sure I agree that they should be in the top 4, but I think they should be in the discussion.
http://espn.go.com/blog/ncfnation/post/_/id/103462/ohio-state-deserves-to-be-in-top-four
http://espn.go.com/blog/ncfnation/post/_/id/103462/ohio-state-deserves-to-be-in-top-four
The top 7 can all win out ( I think).
It would be difficult to penalize TCU or Baylor because they don't get another quality win in a conference championship, but that isn't the playoff committees problem. So, I think they each need to win out and have someone or someones lose.
Mississippi St. can win out and not get into the SEC Championship game. Beating 3 top 20 teams will make it tough to keep them out of the playoff. If Ohio State beats Wisconsin (assuming Wisc beats Minn), it will make it tough to keep them out, and they'd probably move past TCU and Baylor, but they need someone in the top 4 to lose.
If everyone wins out from here, I think the top 4 go to the playoff. Now, if Georgia could beat Alabama in the SEC Championship game, that might, IMO, vault them over a bunch of people and knock Mississippi State out of the playoff. Still looks like two SEC teams, Oregon and Florida State.
Is there any way the Big Ten champ and the Big 12 champ can face off in a shadow playoff? Maybe the Big 12 runner-up gets the best SEC championship game loser?
It would be difficult to penalize TCU or Baylor because they don't get another quality win in a conference championship, but that isn't the playoff committees problem. So, I think they each need to win out and have someone or someones lose.
Mississippi St. can win out and not get into the SEC Championship game. Beating 3 top 20 teams will make it tough to keep them out of the playoff. If Ohio State beats Wisconsin (assuming Wisc beats Minn), it will make it tough to keep them out, and they'd probably move past TCU and Baylor, but they need someone in the top 4 to lose.
If everyone wins out from here, I think the top 4 go to the playoff. Now, if Georgia could beat Alabama in the SEC Championship game, that might, IMO, vault them over a bunch of people and knock Mississippi State out of the playoff. Still looks like two SEC teams, Oregon and Florida State.
Is there any way the Big Ten champ and the Big 12 champ can face off in a shadow playoff? Maybe the Big 12 runner-up gets the best SEC championship game loser?
As long as the NCAA is going to qualify schools based on style points, I feel the author of this article conveniently glosses over their "win" against Penn State. OSU was handed 3 points and a smooth pathway to 7 more that they were nowhere near sure to score otherwise. Presuming they would have 1) made a 54-yard FG if the delay of game had been called and 2) driven the length of the field after a punt against one of the best defenses in the nation had the INT review not been botched (or by some grace of the Almighty, Penn State's offense had not driven into scoring position) hardly seems like a sure thing.FL4WL3SS said:
It's a win on their record, but again, you can't just cherry-pick style points like the author of that article did, especially with so many other schools qualifying for entry into the group of four.
I;ve given up defending FSU. IF they win the last 2 they will make the playoff, but go Jackets. I give them a ton of credit for finishing well, but a the end of the day I am not sure there aren;t 4-5 better teams in the SEC
1) Bama - I will be rooting for them to lose, but things are breaking their way in a huge way if Mizzou can beat Arkansas. I don't think they are the best team but Saban factor puts them over the top
2) Oregon - Go UCLA. Marriota is pretty special
3) TCU - So Much fun to watch
4) Baylor - Maybe even more fun to watch
5) FSU - Not at all fun to watch. If they do lose one, I am dropping down to where Marshall is ranked
6) Miss St - I like them and will root for them against Ole Miss, but I need a Big 12 team in the Playoff to make them worth watching
7) Ohio St - Might be much better than this, but they lost to an awful team, went 3 OT against a terrible team, and have no wins of note
8) Georgia - Deserve much better than this, but man I still can't figure out how they lost to Florida
9) UCLA - Go Bruins Bet up on a very mediocre USC tonight
10) Auburn - Best 3 loss team, lets not make it 4
1) Bama - I will be rooting for them to lose, but things are breaking their way in a huge way if Mizzou can beat Arkansas. I don't think they are the best team but Saban factor puts them over the top
2) Oregon - Go UCLA. Marriota is pretty special
3) TCU - So Much fun to watch
4) Baylor - Maybe even more fun to watch
5) FSU - Not at all fun to watch. If they do lose one, I am dropping down to where Marshall is ranked
6) Miss St - I like them and will root for them against Ole Miss, but I need a Big 12 team in the Playoff to make them worth watching
7) Ohio St - Might be much better than this, but they lost to an awful team, went 3 OT against a terrible team, and have no wins of note
8) Georgia - Deserve much better than this, but man I still can't figure out how they lost to Florida
9) UCLA - Go Bruins Bet up on a very mediocre USC tonight
10) Auburn - Best 3 loss team, lets not make it 4
1. Alabama - Balanced team, top spot in the SEC West.
2. Oregon - Marriotta is the best and most important player in the nation by a longshot.
3, Miss St. - Nice bounce back performance.
4. TCU - Could be #1 were it not for one bad quarter v. Baylor and negative style points v. Kansas. Minnesota win looking better.
5. Baylor - Not enough Waco puns to describe the offense.
6. FSU - Would they even make top 6 in the SEC West?
7. Georgia - One functional cocktail dress from being a title contender.
8. UCLA - Top team in the best non-SEC division in the country.
9. Ohio State - I still like them better than the transitive property does. They move up if they can beat Melvin's Badgers.
10. Arizona - Beat Oregon, destroyed Utah on the road in non-Tucson-esque weather.
2. Oregon - Marriotta is the best and most important player in the nation by a longshot.
3, Miss St. - Nice bounce back performance.
4. TCU - Could be #1 were it not for one bad quarter v. Baylor and negative style points v. Kansas. Minnesota win looking better.
5. Baylor - Not enough Waco puns to describe the offense.
6. FSU - Would they even make top 6 in the SEC West?
7. Georgia - One functional cocktail dress from being a title contender.
8. UCLA - Top team in the best non-SEC division in the country.
9. Ohio State - I still like them better than the transitive property does. They move up if they can beat Melvin's Badgers.
10. Arizona - Beat Oregon, destroyed Utah on the road in non-Tucson-esque weather.
1. Alabama - has both the "style points" and the accumulated strength of victory. No hesitation here.
2. Oregon - two signature wins. A little weak in average SoV.
3. Georgia - right up there with Alabama in style points, but the loss to Florida is a killer. It's too bad we can't arrange a Missouri loss to Arkansas next week.
4. Ohio State - a decent resume, but you can't excuse everything going wrong in Barrett's first start against a bad team.
5. Mississippi State - also has the style points and a top resume, but much lower in average SoV.
6. Florida State - Lousy in style points, and statistically, a much weaker team than the record shows (same pattern as UCLA).
7. UCLA - Best average SoV in the country, but two home losses. A rematch with Oregon would be nice.
8. Auburn - No one has played a tougher schedule.
9. Texas Christian - A tougher schedule than Baylor's, but down there with Wisconsin and Michigan State near the bottom of the power conferences. Take away style points and you're wondering why they're even mentioned.
10. Baylor - Statistically, they look like world-beaters, but they've played the 83rd-toughest schedule so far. If someone wants to consider Baylor for the playoff, Marshall should be considered as well. And I don't see Marshall as a top-20 team.
2. Oregon - two signature wins. A little weak in average SoV.
3. Georgia - right up there with Alabama in style points, but the loss to Florida is a killer. It's too bad we can't arrange a Missouri loss to Arkansas next week.
4. Ohio State - a decent resume, but you can't excuse everything going wrong in Barrett's first start against a bad team.
5. Mississippi State - also has the style points and a top resume, but much lower in average SoV.
6. Florida State - Lousy in style points, and statistically, a much weaker team than the record shows (same pattern as UCLA).
7. UCLA - Best average SoV in the country, but two home losses. A rematch with Oregon would be nice.
8. Auburn - No one has played a tougher schedule.
9. Texas Christian - A tougher schedule than Baylor's, but down there with Wisconsin and Michigan State near the bottom of the power conferences. Take away style points and you're wondering why they're even mentioned.
10. Baylor - Statistically, they look like world-beaters, but they've played the 83rd-toughest schedule so far. If someone wants to consider Baylor for the playoff, Marshall should be considered as well. And I don't see Marshall as a top-20 team.
Oops. Edited my previous vs post new.
1. Oregon - Appear to be hitting their stride
2. FSU - Will they get a wake up call?
3. Alabama - Looked good in their spring game
4. Miss State - Less competitive than W. Carolina
5. TCU - Really tough call vs Baylor
6. Baylor - Maybe above TCU
7. Ohio State - Can't keep FSU at the top and fault them for not breaking away until late
8. UGA - May make things interested
9 .Michigan State - Stomped Rutgers
10. UCLA - Look great sometimes, awful others, but keep winning in a tough division
1. Oregon - Appear to be hitting their stride
2. FSU - Will they get a wake up call?
3. Alabama - Looked good in their spring game
4. Miss State - Less competitive than W. Carolina
5. TCU - Really tough call vs Baylor
6. Baylor - Maybe above TCU
7. Ohio State - Can't keep FSU at the top and fault them for not breaking away until late
8. UGA - May make things interested
9 .Michigan State - Stomped Rutgers
10. UCLA - Look great sometimes, awful others, but keep winning in a tough division
1. Alabama
2. Oregon
3, Florida St. - Yes they aren't nearly as good as last year, but they're still undefeated.
4. Baylor
5. Miss State
6. TCU (Texas might very well beat them Thanksgiving, it's a trap game IMO for TCU)
7. UCLA
8. Georgia
9. Arizona
10. Ohio State (they aren't good. Watch Michigan upset them to end the Hoke era with a laugh)
2. Oregon
3, Florida St. - Yes they aren't nearly as good as last year, but they're still undefeated.
4. Baylor
5. Miss State
6. TCU (Texas might very well beat them Thanksgiving, it's a trap game IMO for TCU)
7. UCLA
8. Georgia
9. Arizona
10. Ohio State (they aren't good. Watch Michigan upset them to end the Hoke era with a laugh)
How is texas a trap game for TCU? TCU plays iowa st at home to close the season.
it is a difficult game as texas is playing well. But it's not a trap game.
it is a difficult game as texas is playing well. But it's not a trap game.
I just mean with news that Baylor probably pass them and they have to wreck house in their final game.
If Ole Miss loses at home to Miss. St. on Saturday, does Alabama's loss to Ole Miss start to look like a "bad loss" that they (Bama) get dinged for? It's not Ohio St. losing to Va Tech, but if Ole Miss loses big, they will at best drop to the bottom of the top 25 polls, and maybe fall out completely.
I don't think so, because the Ole Miss team today has had some pretty big injuries. The offense has lost a bit of steam without Treadwell.
The Contenders
1. Alabama. Best team in the best division in the best conference. Balanced on offense, with the best wide-out in the game. Under-rated coordinator tandem. Solid front seven, with the best safety in the game in the back. DEEP
2. Oregon. Mariota is by far the best player in the game, and perhaps the most valuable since Cam Newton. Play well with lead. Sold schemes on both sides of the ball.
3. TCU. 5 quarters from being ranked #1. Have dominated most of their games, solid OOC win v. Minnesota.
Could beat anyone on a given day
4. FSU. Nick O'Leary is developing a resume George would be proud of. Yet, alternatively, you can't spell Winston without INT. If they don't find the on switch until their QB throws 3 picks, they will get stung by the Yellow Jackets
5. Arizona. Beat Oregon. Destroyed Utah on the road in non-Tucson conditions. Beat their in-state rival with one of the most entertaining set of touchdowns you will ever see.
6. Baylor. Waco-esque offense. Waco-esque defense.
7. Mississippi State. Lost to Alabama and in in-state rival Ole Miss. Would favor them over every team below.
Pretenders
8. Ohio State. Failed to dominate one of the worst teams in Wolverine history. Will be an underdog without Barrett v. Wisconsin.
9. Michigan State. Stayed within 20 points to Oregon.
10. Ole Miss. Are they the team that beat Alabama, Miss St, and Boise? Or the team that lost to LSU and got decimated by Arkansas? How big is the Tread loss?
1. Alabama. Best team in the best division in the best conference. Balanced on offense, with the best wide-out in the game. Under-rated coordinator tandem. Solid front seven, with the best safety in the game in the back. DEEP
2. Oregon. Mariota is by far the best player in the game, and perhaps the most valuable since Cam Newton. Play well with lead. Sold schemes on both sides of the ball.
3. TCU. 5 quarters from being ranked #1. Have dominated most of their games, solid OOC win v. Minnesota.
Could beat anyone on a given day
4. FSU. Nick O'Leary is developing a resume George would be proud of. Yet, alternatively, you can't spell Winston without INT. If they don't find the on switch until their QB throws 3 picks, they will get stung by the Yellow Jackets
5. Arizona. Beat Oregon. Destroyed Utah on the road in non-Tucson conditions. Beat their in-state rival with one of the most entertaining set of touchdowns you will ever see.
6. Baylor. Waco-esque offense. Waco-esque defense.
7. Mississippi State. Lost to Alabama and in in-state rival Ole Miss. Would favor them over every team below.
Pretenders
8. Ohio State. Failed to dominate one of the worst teams in Wolverine history. Will be an underdog without Barrett v. Wisconsin.
9. Michigan State. Stayed within 20 points to Oregon.
10. Ole Miss. Are they the team that beat Alabama, Miss St, and Boise? Or the team that lost to LSU and got decimated by Arkansas? How big is the Tread loss?
1. Alabama - the most impressive season package so far.
2. Oregon - a chance to turn around its only loss this season.
3. Ohio State - but a huge question mark without Barrett.
4. Florida State - they have to be in the playoff, but I consider the Tech game a pick-em. Credit for consistently beating almost-good teams. No signature wins, but there's value in the consistency.
5. Texas Christian - questionable schedule, but statistically impressive.
6. Mississippi - the Arkansas loss stands out, but Arkansas held Alabama to nothing on offense and lost by one. The Razorbacks, even at 6-6, are a threat to anyone.
7. Baylor - a miserable, embarrassing schedule, but they dominated it like no one else.
8. Mississippi State - faded late, but a solid season.
9. Michigan State - weak schedule and no signature wins, but a solid campaign and the top statistical team (correlation with winning teams) in the country.
10. Auburn - four losses, but a schedule that would make even Bear Bryant cry.
2. Oregon - a chance to turn around its only loss this season.
3. Ohio State - but a huge question mark without Barrett.
4. Florida State - they have to be in the playoff, but I consider the Tech game a pick-em. Credit for consistently beating almost-good teams. No signature wins, but there's value in the consistency.
5. Texas Christian - questionable schedule, but statistically impressive.
6. Mississippi - the Arkansas loss stands out, but Arkansas held Alabama to nothing on offense and lost by one. The Razorbacks, even at 6-6, are a threat to anyone.
7. Baylor - a miserable, embarrassing schedule, but they dominated it like no one else.
8. Mississippi State - faded late, but a solid season.
9. Michigan State - weak schedule and no signature wins, but a solid campaign and the top statistical team (correlation with winning teams) in the country.
10. Auburn - four losses, but a schedule that would make even Bear Bryant cry.
1) Alabama. - best resume by far
2) Oregon. - would certainly be the most fascinating matchup for Bama
3) TCU - a sleepy 5 minutes from #1
4) FSU. - playoff or Russel athletic bowl next weekend
5) Baylor - this was their PSU win, still better resume than OSU
6) OSU. - resume puts them here. AN situation says lower
7) Georgia Tech - huge win In Athens despite double royal screw job
8) Mississippi - freak play of the decade from playoff
9) Mississippi State - tough loss but great season
10) Michigan State - Probably should be Auburn
2) Oregon. - would certainly be the most fascinating matchup for Bama
3) TCU - a sleepy 5 minutes from #1
4) FSU. - playoff or Russel athletic bowl next weekend
5) Baylor - this was their PSU win, still better resume than OSU
6) OSU. - resume puts them here. AN situation says lower
7) Georgia Tech - huge win In Athens despite double royal screw job
8) Mississippi - freak play of the decade from playoff
9) Mississippi State - tough loss but great season
10) Michigan State - Probably should be Auburn
soxhop411 said:
Apparently they much have spent all their time/energy/gameplan on the PR firm rather than coaching the team. The 4th quarter collapse against TTU probably did as much if not more damage, then any benefit they gain from the pr firm
That's great bulletin board material for Kansas State. Maybe they can get their out-of-conference opponents (SMU - 0-11, Northwestern St., La. - 6-6 in the FCS and Buffalo - 5-6) to write some supporting letters. Loads of style points for beating them by a combined score of 178-27.
They'll be certainly out. If favorites win, and they lose, they'll be down to about #10.BigSoxFan said:
