Who is your All Star pitching Staff

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Here you go. What is your all star pitching staff for the Red Sox?

The rules are simple:
  • The player must have played at least 3 years with the Sox
  • The player must have been with the Sox from 1970 forward.
  • The player pitched for at least 3 years with the Sox.
  • List both your starting rotation and bullpen.
  • Can be 12 or 13 player staff
Starters:
Pedro
Clemens
Tiant
Lester
Wakefield

Bullpen:
Uehara
Papelbon
Bill Lee - Long
Timlin
Stanley
Lowe
Lyle
Okajima
 
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mwonow

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At a quick glance, I think you've got Wake and Lee in the wrong categories - Wake pitched out of the pen, and Lee, IIRC, was pretty much only a starter.

Olde time folks are likely to argue for Radatz and Cy Young - maybe for the Babe and/or Parnell as well...

Thanks for bringing baseball to mind through the snow and on the eve (or actually, the eve of the eve of the eve) of pitchers and catchers.
 
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IHateDaveKerpen said:
Gotta be Bill, no? With the exception of Pedro™, it's all last names.
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Yeah, but the fact that it's in the bullpen points to Smith. Bill did have a couple of years as a reliever in 71-72, but they weren't anything special. Seems like an odd choice if it's him.
 
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Here is a reference at the player size over that time span.
https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=sta&lg=all&qual=500&type=8&season=2017&month=0&season1=1970&ind=0&team=3&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0

It's really hard - because you have obvious guys at the top. And then you have guys like Mike Boddicker who was pretty damn effective in his short time with the club vs. Beckett who had pretty extreme ups and downs. I had already posted in the other thread but am going to revise it.

For once, I don't think WAR should factor in too much.
 
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Pedro
Clemens
Lester
Beckett
Blowhard


Hurst-emergency starter
Wake-long
Lowe-all-purpose, extra innings
Embree-loogy
Uehara-RHSU
Okajima-LHSU
Foulke-high lev
Papelbon-9th

apologies to Lee Smith, Gordon, Timlin, need lefties.
 
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Pedro Martinez
Roger Clemens
Jon Lester
Josh Beckett
Curt Schilling


Jonathan Papelbon
Koji Uehara
Keith Foulke
Daniel Bard
Bob Stanley
Mike Timlin
Hideki Okajima
Rich Garces
 
Rich Garces Belly

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redsox2020 said:
Pedro Martinez
Roger Clemens
Jon Lester
Josh Beckett
Curt Schilling


Jonathan Papelbon
Koji Uehara
Keith Foulke
Daniel Bard
Bob Stanley
Mike Timlin
Hideki Okajima
Rich Garces
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Not a bigger Garces fan than me, but he belongs nowhere near any list with All-Star in the title!
 
mwonow

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Pedro Martinez
Roger Clemens
Jon Lester
Bruce Hurst
Curt Schilling


Jonathan Papelbon
Koji Uehara
Keith Foulke
Hideki Okajima
Derek Lowe
TIm Wakefield
Bob Stanley


Funny exercise - I had too many starters and was scratching for relievers...
 
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Clemens
Pedro
Tiant
Lester
Wakefield

Papelbon
Stanley
Lowe
Uehara
Burgmeier
Kimbrel
Tazawa
 
Oppo

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Pedro
Schilling
Lester
Beckett
Lowe


Wake
Tazawa
Miller
Kimbrel
Uehara
Papelbon
Kimbrel
Foulke
 
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Rotation:
Pedro
Clemens
Lester
Tiant
Spaceman

Bullpen:
Pap
Koji
Burgmeister
Okajima
D-Lowe
Timlin
Stanley
Wake

For the 'pen, after the first 4 (top ERA+ for relievers that had more stints than cups of coffee), I went with sentimentality/longevity.

If I'm playing a game in my mind with these players, these other guys MUST be in the bullpen. In the infinitely long game, Wake ends up pitching every inning in my mind, anyway. Fitting, since he's thrown more Sox innings than literally anyone else, ever.
 
Savin Hillbilly

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The wrong side of the bridge....
As with the position players, I'm turning the 1970 cutoff into 1980 because that's when I started following:

Starters:

Pedro
Sale
Lester
Beckett
Hurst

Bullpen:

Papelbon
Koji
Kimbrel
Lowe
Stanley
Burgmeier
Oki

This was pretty easy--the hardest thing was Wake vs. Hurst for the last rotation slot. Both sentimental favorites, but Hurst had a better peak. The only other choice that required thought was Oki vs. Timlin for the last bullpen slot. I went for righty/lefty balance.
 
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Starters:
Pedro, Clemens, Schilling, Beckett, Lester
Bullpen
Paps, Koji, Gordon, Lowe, Okajima, Hurst, Wakefield

(My heart really wanted to follow Oppo's and Savin's lead in blackballing Clemens, but he was one of the best. (And mine were 1986+, since that's when I've been following; sorry Tiant and Lee).
 
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Savin Hillbilly said:
As with the position players, I'm turning the 1970 cutoff into 1980 because that's when I started following:

Starters:

Pedro
Sale
Lester
Beckett
Hurst

Bullpen:

Papelbon
Koji
Kimbrel
Lowe
Stanley
Burgmeier
Oki

This was pretty easy--the hardest thing was Wake vs. Hurst for the last rotation slot. Both sentimental favorites, but Hurst had a better peak. The only other choice that required thought was Oki vs. Timlin for the last bullpen slot. I went for righty/lefty balance.
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I don't think Sale qualifies as he's not been here three years yet?

My list:

Pedro
Schilling
Clemens
Lester
Beckett

Pen:

Timlin
Papelbon
Koji
Lowe
Wake
Tazawa
Okajima
 
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