Week 6 Game Thread
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There's been a palpable buzz around Trevor Sybian, but you have to wonder with his recent play and the arm injury at the end of the half if he'll be the one in the saddle come the second half.
this is going to be one of those games where the tease of the broncos falling behind combined with the other team shitting their dicks is going to end up being worse than if the NYG had just rolled over and died like we expected
Ahhh the old Giants player getting a cramp when the other team is moving it on a crucial drive. Never gets old.
He's 1000% down.
Which means the Broncos will get the ball, score, force another turnover, score again, recover the onside kick and score with .02 seconds left in the middle of an October blizzard.
Because, Denver's gonna Denver.
Or not.
Which means the Broncos will get the ball, score, force another turnover, score again, recover the onside kick and score with .02 seconds left in the middle of an October blizzard.
Because, Denver's gonna Denver.
Or not.
He will put up 300 yards against the Pats. "worst defense of all time"!!!!!!
Edit: Oh, not a Pats game thread? Pats win that one easily.
You're wondering why they went for it on fourth and goal from the 1 down 17 with 8:30 left?
The Giants are 0-5, Denver just one loss. Game in Denver, one of the hardest places for visiting teams to play. Giants top four receivers all out. Eli has nobody to throw to. Team in disarray. Broncos have one of the best defenses in the league. Denver out-gains them 412-266, and 20-12 in first downs......
And NY wins by almost two touchdowns. I frigging give up trying to figure any of this out.
Anyone who bets on sports for real is completely insane.
And NY wins by almost two touchdowns. I frigging give up trying to figure any of this out.
Anyone who bets on sports for real is completely insane.
I watched some pro football today. The product is terrible.
What is going on and what can they do to fix it? These games are not entertaining in any way to watch.
What is going on and what can they do to fix it? These games are not entertaining in any way to watch.
Nice call.
BTW, Andy Reid is still Dusty Baker:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/10/16/andy-reid-on-passing-on-fg-i-do-what-my-gut-says-to-do/
Yes, it's a three-possession game. Two of them are touchdowns. There's 8:30 left. They're on the one-yard line.
If this is trolling, well done. Otherwise...wow.
Kicking from the 1 in Denver's spot is always horrific. Its two possessions afterwards, OK, but
---The chances of scoring a TD on 4th and goal from the 1 are like 50-70%. The team down by 17 needs touchdowns. This is one of the best chances at scoring a TD Denver was likely to have.
---Its two possessions if Denver kicks a field goal, but there is zero margin of error. A Giants FG makes it three possessions. Both possessions now have to be touchdowns. In this draw from the deck, Denver got two more possessions and the Giants kicked a field goal. So the three points would have been completely worthless.
---All scores are not equal. If Denver scores a field goal and two touchdowns, that sends the game to overtime where they have (given the strength of teams and homefield) somewhere greater than 50% and less than 100% chances of winning. If Denver scores three TDs, they win the game 100% of the time.
---The game state value of having a team backed up at their own 1 is like 2 points for the defense. After a kickoff, kicking the field goal is worth somewhere around one point, give or take. Compared with a 50-70% chance of scoring close to 7 points.
---Id argue contextual factors dont really matter to the decision but probably argue to go for it. Offense had been struggling to move the ball and score all game, TD would get the crowd loud and fired up, etc
Basically the only reason to ever kick from the 1 yard line is to win or tie a game late or if the clock is a factor so the field position is not an advantage. Kicking "extends the game" while increasing the chances of losing the game.
Reid going for it seems fine, particularly since they could still get a first down. But I wouldnt care that much if they kicked or went for it. Id say this is actually one where the coaches gut feel matters.
---The chances of scoring a TD on 4th and goal from the 1 are like 50-70%. The team down by 17 needs touchdowns. This is one of the best chances at scoring a TD Denver was likely to have.
---Its two possessions if Denver kicks a field goal, but there is zero margin of error. A Giants FG makes it three possessions. Both possessions now have to be touchdowns. In this draw from the deck, Denver got two more possessions and the Giants kicked a field goal. So the three points would have been completely worthless.
---All scores are not equal. If Denver scores a field goal and two touchdowns, that sends the game to overtime where they have (given the strength of teams and homefield) somewhere greater than 50% and less than 100% chances of winning. If Denver scores three TDs, they win the game 100% of the time.
---The game state value of having a team backed up at their own 1 is like 2 points for the defense. After a kickoff, kicking the field goal is worth somewhere around one point, give or take. Compared with a 50-70% chance of scoring close to 7 points.
---Id argue contextual factors dont really matter to the decision but probably argue to go for it. Offense had been struggling to move the ball and score all game, TD would get the crowd loud and fired up, etc
Basically the only reason to ever kick from the 1 yard line is to win or tie a game late or if the clock is a factor so the field position is not an advantage. Kicking "extends the game" while increasing the chances of losing the game.
Reid going for it seems fine, particularly since they could still get a first down. But I wouldnt care that much if they kicked or went for it. Id say this is actually one where the coaches gut feel matters.
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The curse of Ryan Fitzpatrick lives on..
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2017/10/15/the-ryan-fitzpatrick-curse-claims-jameis-winston-as-its-latest-victim/?utm_term=.1a5b9b4ac5dd
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2017/10/15/the-ryan-fitzpatrick-curse-claims-jameis-winston-as-its-latest-victim/?utm_term=.1a5b9b4ac5dd
Pats fans lose their colllective minds after a close win against the Jets, meanwhile the Titans have lost 11 in a row against the pathetically mediocre Colts.
I'm having an out-of-body experience here rooting for Brissett and Vinatieri and these goddamn Colts. With Jeff Fisher gone there really isn't much to dislike about the Titans, either.
But damned if watching Belichick-coached teams hasn't spoiled me in ways I haven't even appreciated: the Colts tackling is abysmal. Like, NCAA levels at best. Every runner is Eddie George in his prime out there. I see a receiver get the ball with a tackler in position and just start counting the yards assuming he'll get taken down as-normal. Nope, he whiffs. Nothing's normal here. Receivers drop easy passes, defenders miss tackles like it's their job, and undisciplined pass rushers take roughing-the-passer penalties like it ain't no thang.
But damned if watching Belichick-coached teams hasn't spoiled me in ways I haven't even appreciated: the Colts tackling is abysmal. Like, NCAA levels at best. Every runner is Eddie George in his prime out there. I see a receiver get the ball with a tackler in position and just start counting the yards assuming he'll get taken down as-normal. Nope, he whiffs. Nothing's normal here. Receivers drop easy passes, defenders miss tackles like it's their job, and undisciplined pass rushers take roughing-the-passer penalties like it ain't no thang.