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Week 6 - Chiefs @ Patriots

Discussion in '2018 Patriots Game Threads' started by Ralphwiggum, Oct 11, 2018.

  1. DrewDawg

    DrewDawg Dorito Dink SoSH Member

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    Yeah. But for some reason, when the Pats were doing this last year, all we heard is that the defense will be the death of them (and it was).

    This year all we hear is "Mahomes!!!!"
     
  2. DrewDawg

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  3. Jed Zeppelin

    Jed Zeppelin Member SoSH Member

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    I will be “working” from jury duty the next two days, which probably for the best as I too am feeling pretty wired.

    I won’t dare to hope that Michel has or can develop the ungodly patience of Le’veon to just sit behind the line forever, but he looks very good. Run game slowed down late as the blocking deteriorated some, but those third down conversions were huge.
     
  4. pvg44

    pvg44 Well-Known Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    That and the Patriots has zero penalties. Ok...
     
  5. Jed Zeppelin

    Jed Zeppelin Member SoSH Member

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    Pats didn’t get close enough to receivers to commit penalties.
     
  6. McBride11

    McBride11 Well-Known Member Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    Hey SSF we need the game ball thread!
     
  7. Mystic Merlin

    Mystic Merlin Member SoSH Member

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    I like the assumption that Indy is so bad that Adam won’t catch Tom again
     
  8. Ed Hillel

    Ed Hillel Wants to be startin somethin SoSH Member

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    Yeah, but he’s missed one whole kick this year.
     
  9. InstaFace

    InstaFace MDLzera

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    In retrospect, the final tally being 43 makes this seem even more petty.
     
  10. GeorgeCostanza

    GeorgeCostanza Member SoSH Member

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    Apparently.
    Not kicking it short is one answer. As someone posted earlier with the rule change this year it’s almost pointless.
     
  11. Deathofthebambino

    Deathofthebambino Drive Carefully SoSH Member

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    Just as a side note, Vegas once again is right on. I believe the line was Pats -3.5, and I heard a lot of folks grumbling about how hard it was to pick a side. Did hear a few folks say they thought the Pats would win, but not cover. There you go.
     
  12. RedOctober3829

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    Couldn’t agree more. I can’t be more pleased with the effort against that group. From the Lions game until today they’ve made strides leaps and bounds above that performance.
     
  13. luckiestman

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    I agree
     
  14. RedOctober3829

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  15. Mugsy's Jock

    Mugsy's Jock Longtime Member Lifetime Member Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    So...why did the Pats accept the PI penalty on the long late pass to Hogan? Deprived our boy Tom of ~30 passing yards.
     
  16. luckiestman

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    Speaking of lines, Lombardi was really funny on his podcast. He killed the Redskins (coaching and ownership) and right after that, he picked the Skins to win against Carolina. He also had the fish but wavered a little earlier today. I thought those were 2 great picks. I wouldn’t have made them.
     
  17. Mystic Merlin

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    Pretty sure they were conserving time I’m anticipation of another possession.
     
  18. DrewDawg

    DrewDawg Dorito Dink SoSH Member

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    When? Pats had a 42 yard completion to Hogan. I don’t see an accepted PI in 4th quarter.
    ImageUploadedBySons of Sam Horn1539577666.740194.jpg
     
  19. LesterFan

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    Looking way down the line here, but this was a huge win for the #1 seed race. If Pats lost, Chiefs would be 6-0 and Pats 3-3 while losing the tiebreaker. Would have been nearly impossible to get the #1 seed. Now at 5-1 vs 4-2 with Pats having the tiebreaker, much more doable.
     
  20. BigSoxFan

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    Won’t be easy given that the Pats have basically 2 home games left until Christmas and those home games are against two playoff contenders in Green Bay and Minnesota. With this schedule, getting a bye won’t be easy. Have to hope the AFC continues to beat up on each other.
     
  21. scottyno

    scottyno Member SoSH Member

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    they didn't nfl refs are just dumb and can't speak properly
     
  22. normstalls

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    Ok, thank you. My son said he heard the same thing and I said no way - that’s no possible.

    Teams NEVER do that.
     
  23. slamminsammya

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    I thought it might have been to avoid a review. Does that even make sense?
     
  24. Mugsy's Jock

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    Looks like penalty was NOT accepted. Getting Tom his yards, and depriving Brady fantasy owners of something to whine about.
     
  25. scottyno

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    Not really, because if they did review and overturn they could then go back and accept the penalty. It's possible the ref didn't even think to ask, and may have not even realized it was a catch, and just assumed they'd take the penalty, so he just announced it without waiting to check.
     
  26. Steve Dillard

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    Would the clock resume running on a catch v penalty?
     
  27. BigSoxFan

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    Going from soft Chiefs D at home to a pissed off Bears D on the road will be quite the adjustment. Will be interesting to see how they respond.
     
  28. fiskful of dollars

    fiskful of dollars Well-Known Member Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    I see what you did there. Well done.
     
  29. InstaFace

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    I know the confusion here. The ref announced the penalty (and of course because he caught it, the line of scrimmage is the same whether you accept or decline the penalty), and then didn't announce that the patriots were declining it. So I initially thought they'd accepted the penalty too, for some unknown reason. But it seems they did.

    I'm amused that in that play-by-play that DD screen-shotted, it doesn't even mention the penalty. These aren't the droids you're looking for.
     
  30. eustis22

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    +1
     
  31. DrewDawg

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    Because it didn’t happen. Most play by plays I’ve seen don’t show declined penalties.

    Although I’m sure coaches still point things out in film review.
     
  32. Saints Rest

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    I agree about the source of the confusion, but it seemed like the "spot of the foul" was about 5 yards shy of the sort of the tackle so I don't think it was all the same except for stat-mavens/fantasy guys.
     
  33. ObstructedView

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    JFC, I've heard a bunch of talking heads harping on this since last night. People who should know better are treating it like a mini-scandal that may have swayed the game, and I can't tell whether they're being willfully disingenuous or just dumb.
     
  34. DrewDawg

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    And as Kyed pointed out—it would have had nothing to do with the new rules.
     
  35. kartvelo

    kartvelo Well-Known Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    Watching the tackle live, I thought his momentum and angle just carried him off Brady as he (Speaks) fell off balance to his right. As in, he didn't have Brady wrapped up and let go, he just never really got a good hold on him.
    I understand that the official story is that he thought the ball was away and was trying to avoid a penalty. Maybe so.
     
  36. snowmanny

    snowmanny Well-Known Member Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    Why not both?
     
  37. Bowhemian

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    They were penalized twice. One was declined, the other one, the Chiefs had a penalty on the same play, so they offset
     
  38. DrewDawg

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    Only on SOSH do we have multiple posts explaining that penalties were called on NE but not accepted to a group of people that already were aware of that.

    No one here is confused by seeing declined penalties on NE and the “Patriots had 0 penalties last night”.
     
  39. DennyDoyle'sBoil

    DennyDoyle'sBoil Found no thrill on Blueberry Hill SoSH Member

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    Yes, except during the last two minutes of the first half or during the last five minutes of the second half. Interestingly, in a rule that nobody seems to know much about and is ripe for some smart coach to take advantage of, this is true even if the penalty is declined.

    Just to give an example. You are down 1. You are out of time outs. 2:40 left. Your opponent runs the ball on 3d and 1. They get a first down in bounds. It should be game over. The clock should run down to the two minute warning and your opponent can now kneel down on the ball after the two minute warning three times and run out the clock. But what if, instead, you realize the runner has the first down so you grab his facemask or you horsecollar him on the way to the ground. Tack on 15 yards, but the clock now stops at 2:35. So, the defense now gets the two minute warning and the offense can't kneel on the ball to run out the clock. If the defense can get a stop, they can now get the ball back with about 30 seconds left which is better than nothing. The interesting part about this example, is that the offense cannot avoid the clock stoppage even by declining the penalty. They get the 15 yards but the defense effectively can get a free time out if they play it correctly.
     
  40. gtmtnbiker

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  41. normstalls

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    The irony of Hill's righteous indignation regarding a tossed beer is pretty rich.

     
  42. Mugsy's Jock

    Mugsy's Jock Longtime Member Lifetime Member Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    Take it easy, there.

    Hill was actually beyond patient and reasonable in his post-game remarks, as you'd see if you read the link in the post right before yours. A hell of a lot moreso than I'd expect from 99.9% of SoSH (including me), actually. Rosenhaus is amplifying this, and frankly I think he's more than entitled to. Getting a beer thrown in your face is a violent and disgusting act.
     
  43. normstalls

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    I am not condoning the beer toss... but I cannot stand Hill. Have you read what he did to his pregnant girlfriend? (Speaking of violent and disgusting act)
     
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  44. Mugsy's Jock

    Mugsy's Jock Longtime Member Lifetime Member Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    Sure, of course — that’s beyond contemptible.
     

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