Week 2 College Football Game Thread

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Old Fart Tree said:
We can't kick 35 yarders. Williamson seems like a nice kid but I can't wait for him to be off the roster.
 
Seriously, Williamson has cost them maybe 15 points in this game.
 

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That's as badly as I've ever seen Stanford play. Badly coached, badly executed, and badly officiated. The phantom chop block call was an absolute killer, but honestly, they didn't deserve to win after playing like that. Just an epic choke job in a game where they dominated for the vast majority of the game.
 

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That was the point I was trying to make: I watched those games too. Those guys were just bad athletes playing mediocre. This was great athletes playing badly.
 
There's a difference.
 
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thehitcat said:
That was a horrendous call.  A chop block requires the player being blocked to be engaged up high first then cut.  the blitzer never got engaged.  Refs blew that one.
 
 
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Literally one of the worst calls I've ever seen. Chop block my ass.
 
 
It wasn't a chop block per se, but I don't think you're allowed to hit someone low if there's a 2nd player also blocking him.
 

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Watch it again. The lineman didn't get there until *after* the RB put the cut block on him. I *think* the call was that the OL and DL engaged VERY BRIEFLY at the very start of the play, then the DL stunted, several seconds passed, and then the RB cut him. And if that's the call, it's a terrible, braindead, game-changing call.
 
But again, you play like poop on a stick, you don't get to blame the zebras. The chop block was probably fourth out of 11 things that went wrong to steal defeat from the jaws of victory in that game.
 

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Dan to Theo to Ben said:
It wasn't a chop block per se, but I don't think you're allowed to hit someone low if there's a 2nd player also blocking him.
That was my point DtTtB neither player had engaged (in fact the first block was the running back going low and then the Olineman came over the top.)  I get what OFT is saying about Stanford's performance but that one call swung the entire game and it's a shame.  
 

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I mean, I can't disagree.
 
  1. It was a horrible fucking call.
  2. It swung the game.
  3. Stanford still played in a manner so fecal that it'd be chickenshit to blame the refs for that debacle.
 
Maybe another beer and Oregon stomping on MSU will make me feel better.
 
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the time after the RB cut block was too short before the OL block, for the DL to have complete control. It's a player safety penalty, nothing more. Obviously not a traditional "chop" block penalty, but when you're cut blocked, engagement isn't the best term to describe it, like it would be on normal OL/DL sparring.
 
The retired ref or whatever they had on, also said it should have been a penalty.
 

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Notre Dame burns a timeout on the first play of the game to avoid a delay of game.  lol
 
Edit: And now they burn another one 2 minutes and 30 seconds later. Piss poor game management by Golson. 
 

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Dan to Theo to Ben said:
the time after the RB cut block was too short before the OL block, for the DL to have complete control. It's a player safety penalty, nothing more. Obviously not a traditional "chop" block penalty, but when you're cut blocked, engagement isn't the best term to describe it, like it would be on normal OL/DL sparring.
 
The retired ref or whatever they had on, also said it should have been a penalty.
 
Horseshit.
 

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Infield Infidel said:
This is a hell of a game going on in Eugene
 
Yup.  Which is a PITA, because it's 1am here and I was planning on going home from the college computer cluster where I'm streaming this at halftime, but this is too compelling to leave.
 

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Wait, does this xfinity commercial really have a bunch of Alabama fans and mascots, etc, in something that looks like a tornado?

They fucking know what ripped through there a few years back, right?  
 
Holy fuck.  
 

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Notre Dame's defense looks really porous over the middle.  Michigan has been able to grab 10-12 chunks of yard over the middle all first quarter long. 
 

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thehitcat said:
That was my point DtTtB neither player had engaged (in fact the first block was the running back going low and then the Olineman came over the top.)  I get what OFT is saying about Stanford's performance but that one call swung the entire game and it's a shame.  
 
I kinda think the refs were bad all around. That targeting penalty was just as awful. Which is a shame because it would have been a fun game with better refs, but both teams seemed on tilt for stretches
 

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ND just got hosed on a spot.  The WR was down at the half yard line and the ball was spotted at the 3. And the officials even reviewed the play.  
 

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Find out who has the better upper classmen.  Bet.  Profit. 
 
There is just no substitute for experience in the early part of the college football season.  We're seeing that with Connor Cook and most of the other starters for Michigan State, but you really see it throughout the NCAA landscape, whether it's in big games like this, or when you see a small school with a ton of upper classmen hang tough with a larger program.  Loved MSU in this one because of the experience they have on both sides of the ball.
 
Oh, and what a great game so far.
 

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Georgia Southern is up 83-3 against Savannah State.  From what I can tell, they haven't been playing their starters since like the first quarter either.
 

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The officials in this ND game are beyond awful.  Just reviewed a play where the ND player's foot was clearly OB when he caught the ball and ruled it a reception.  This was after a terrible spot on a review earlier in the game. 
 
BTW - Golson looks very good tonight. 
 

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So unbelievably fast, everywhere.  I have no idea how they get so many athletes at Oregon.  Is it because of the history of the track program and Nike or something?
 

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Nike money has been huge---they have the best facilities, support infrastucture, marketing, and well...whatever else drives success in recruiting.
 
They are a little like watching those Jimmy Johnson Cowboy teams that were just faster then everyone else at the time....they don't have quite the grit those teams did, but the speed is just so striking.
 

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Deathofthebambino said:
So unbelievably fast, everywhere.  I have no idea how they get so many athletes at Oregon.  Is it because of the history of the track program and Nike or something?
 
I was just thinking. 15 years ago it was a good program. 25 years ago it was a nothing program. Today it's elite, and this is with their 3rd quality coach in a row. 
 

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Oregon sat back 20 years ago and looked at their program through a marketing lens. Since then, with the Nike support, they have been building a brand like a consumer product. Oregon is now cool, but they have worked hard and creatively to make it that way.