Week 14 College Football Game Thread

mabrowndog

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Saw it coming a mile away. I mean, it's complete bullshit, but anyone surprised by this needs a reality check.
 

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luckiestman said:
I suppose. But I rarely feel convinced the best NCAA basketball team is the champ because they win some wacky tournament. I'd rather the top 4 seeds play best of five series or something. The conference system is already a quasi playoff system in college football. I don't really feel the need to watch bama blowout the number 32 team then blowout the number 16 team to get down to 8 just because PLAYOFFS.

Money is going to determine it, so I'm going to be doing that stupid tomahawk chop and eating gator either way.
 
But it wouldn't have to be a straight bracket with 1 vs 16, 2 vs 15, etc.
 
Start with 9-12 hosting first-round games vs 13-16. Then 5-8 play the winners in four neutral-site bowls. Then 1-4 play the next set of winners in four more bowls, leading to the semifinals and championship.
 
Sure, fans of 9 & 10 will complain about not getting a bye, 5 & 6 will whine about not getting a double-bye, and 13-16 will moan about having to travel. But their teams will still have a chance to prove it on the field. Again, the real bitching comes from being left out altogether.
 
If those bitching about heavy game workloads want to continue that argument, cut the field to 12 and have 5-8 host 9-12 in the first round. Then move on to the 4-2-1 neutral site bowls.
 
And you wouldn't have to mess with the calendar. The other bowl games would continue as usual with invitations being extended the same way they always have. This year the layout could have been something like this:
 
Sat, Dec 13
#12 Boise St at #5 Ohio State
#11 Missouri at #6 Baylor
#10 GA Tech at #7 Miss St
#8 Arizona at #9 Michigan St
 
Sat, Dec 20
Nashville TN - #1 Alabama vs Arizona/Mich St
San Diego CA - #2 Oregon vs GT/MS St
Orlando FL - #3 Florida St vs Baylor/MO
Dallas TX - #4 TCU vs Boise/Ohio St
 
Thur, Jan 1
New Orleans LA - Ala/AZ/MichSt vs TCU/Boise/Ohio St
Pasadena CA - Ore/GT/MSSU vs FSU/Baylor/MO
 
Mon, Jan 12
Miami FL - Championship Game
 
The only tradition being fucked with here is Army/Navy being the only game played this weekend. Thanksgiving games still get played. So do rivalry games and conference championships. Teams would get 11 days rest between both the quarters/semis and semis/title game. Teams losing a first-round game could still be invited to a later bowl.
 
Seriously, I defy anyone to point out any major flaws with the above.
 

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I would be really, really disappointed if OSU jumped into the top 4. It would show why the BCS went to a computer system in the first place. The desire to elevate a name school like OSU over a less known but more deserving team (TCU in this case), is always going to be pretty strong for a committee. We'll see how it shakes out.
So not only does Ohio state jump over TCU, but Baylor does, too? Wow.
 

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During the first week of the season, I claimed that whoever won the Big 10 would head into the playoff, and many people disagreed. I'm not going to pretend I saw this coming, especially with a team that was as solid as TCU being left out, but I figured, considering the way the committee was comprised, that the Big 10 would be well represented on it, so any chance of a team like Ohio St  having even a semi-good case at getting in, they would have a lot of support.
 

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Let's just hope that Alabama completely buries OSU.

I think the FSU-Oregon game should be awesome.
 

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The committee must have hated the Big 12 for not having a championship game. If TCU had met Baylor again, whoever won that game probably would have held off Ohio State. TCU got boned by not playing in a championship, I mean, they fell THREE spots in the rankings despite beating a  conference opponent by 50.
 
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Well, I guess that's a sobering lesson for my idealistic line of argument.
 

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Kliq said:
The committee must have hated the Big 12 for not having a championship game.
 
Under NCAA rules the Big 12 can't have a championship game until it gets to 12 members. As currently constituted, the conference has no choice in the matter.
 
Colorado, Nebraska, Texas A&M and Missouri left for other conferences, and BYU, Notre Dame, Utah & Louisville ultimately snubbed the Big 12 leaving TCU and West Virginia as the only replacements.
 

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It's more the math of not having a clear winner. All four conference championships were won by the team that had the resume. The Big Twelve never had a true champion, ironically enough. Having 5 and 6 means your conference did very well, but the other conferences had clearer "way-out-in-front" winners.

Imagine, though, if Alabama had lost yesterday. It would be hard to put 11-2 Alabama ahead of the one-loss and zero-loss champions, especially coming off a championship-game loss. Missouri's nowhere close. Then you'd have the conference that dominated college football this year left out of the national championship.

As bad as this looks this year, imagine how bad it would be if Alabama had lost.

For whatever reason, everyone's stupid when it comes to college football rankings. In the NFL, we accept that even the best teams sometimes lose. In the last seven seasons, only one team has been as good as 15-1 (Green Bay in 2011 - and they bombed in their first playoff game). That's because there's schedule parity. The SEC is the closest thing to that this year, so getting through unscathed would be just about impossible. Yet Florida State, which has an average power ranking of fifth and plays in a weaker conference, is considered an automatic selection and the SEC risked having no teams in the playoff.
 
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FSU deserves credit for at least scheduling OKState, Florida, and Notre Dame, even though the first two each had one of their worst seasons in the recent past, and Notre Dame is still Notre Dame, even though they underperformed at the end. And their fourth game, Citadel, was a smart move for preparing for the possible GT ACCCG.
 

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Chemistry Schmemistry said:
Imagine, though, if Alabama had lost yesterday. It would be hard to put 11-2 Alabama ahead of the one-loss and zero-loss champions, especially coming off a championship-game loss. Missouri's nowhere close. Then you'd have the conference that dominated college football this year left out of the national championship.
 
If mcubed's numbers are right, the SEC had an overall losing record against the other power 5 conferences this year (1-4 vs. ACC, 3-1 vs. Big 12, 1-1 vs. Big 10, DNP PAC).  They are certainly the strongest conference, but they didn't dominate the others on the field this year as they have in years past.
 

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mabrowndog said:
 
Under NCAA rules the Big 12 can't have a championship game until it gets to 12 members. As currently constituted, the conference has no choice in the matter.
 
Colorado, Nebraska, Texas A&M and Missouri left for other conferences, and BYU, Notre Dame, Utah & Louisville ultimately snubbed the Big 12 leaving TCU and West Virginia as the only replacements.
The Big 12 had a choice between WVU and Louisville. They picked WVU.

Louisville was out in the wilderness until maryland left the ACC.