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Week 1 vs. Houston--Redemption

Discussion in '2018 Patriots Game Threads' started by RedOctober3829, Sep 5, 2018.

  1. RedOctober3829

    RedOctober3829 Member SoSH Member

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    The end to last year sucked but it's time to start writing a new story for 2018. I'm cautiously optimistic about the defense this year. There should be an improved pass rush and improvements in the secondary simply due to health. Hopefully, Gilmore steps up from the start of the season and becomes the shutdown corner he can be and that a healthy Rowe/JC Jackson and the new guys add a coverage ability that wasn't there at the biggest game of the season. The defensive line should be improved with the addition of a run stopper like Danny Shelton and pass rusher Adrian Clayborn. I'm hoping Flowers is ready to go. The linebackers have questions but I've liked what I've seen out of Bentley and Van Noy in the preseason. I'm just hoping that Hightower was easing his way back in because he looked much slower than he has been. Just hope that all these injuries haven't taken a toll on him and that his decline is starting.

    Offensively, I'm just thankful I still get to watch the best to ever to do it do his craft. With the question marks at receiver, Tom will have more on his shoulders to gain chemistry with everyone and make things work. I think the offensive line, if healthy, can be the biggest strength of the unit outside of Brady. The Patriots may have the best interior OL in the league currently with the trio of Thuney/Andrews/Mason given Travis Frederick's issues in Dallas. Andrews is highly underrated IMO and Thuney gets too much crap for the level of performance he puts on tape. It's also exciting to think about what can be done with the stable of backs. Both Rex Burkhead and Sony Michel were FULL participants today in practice. Each player brings a unique skillset that can be utilized. The big boy at TE is going to have his best season yet. I'm intrigued to see what wrinkles McDaniels throws into the game plans to utilize Patterson. Can Dorsett step up to provide another reliable target after being in the system for a calendar year? It was always tough to expect much from him last year but should be all ready to go this year.

    There's certainly question marks abound with this team but Week 1 is time for positivity. Houston is a very good team and provides a extreme test for where the Pats are at to start the year. I'd rather have these type of teams like Houston and Jacksonville to start the year than bad teams. It tells you exactly what the flaws are. I'm jacked to get this season going.
     
  2. Ale Xander

    Ale Xander Member SoSH Member

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    By the hand of the Almighty [BB], we forward in this generation triumphantly.

     
  3. IHateDaveKerpen

    IHateDaveKerpen Well-Known Member Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    ...we are?! Cool!
     
  4. Super Nomario

    Super Nomario Member SoSH Member

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    Very curious how they do against Watson. He carved them up last year. They have not been effective against mobile QBs in recent seasons, and they face a bunch this year.
     
  5. RedOctober3829

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    That's the biggest issue this week. In practice, they've had Keion Crossen mimicking Watson in D-line drills as they attempted to keep him inside the pocket.
     
  6. Super Nomario

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    Keeping him in the pocket is great, but IMO part of the problem in the past has been that they're so focused on keeping the QB in the pocket that they've applied zero pressure and he's carved them up. Watson's longest run was 7 yards last year but he threw for 300 yards on 33 attempts.
     
  7. RedOctober3829

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    They need to get a pass rush on the inside in order for the ends to surround him. When there's no pressure up the middle, as you know, QB's can just stand back there and pick defenses apart.
     
  8. RedOctober3829

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    First injury report of the year. Sony Michel was in fact limited not full. He was limited along with Bentley, Hollister, and Dawson. Cannon and Ebner are listed as full participants.

     
  9. BigSoxFan

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    Hope Michel is active but I'm not against giving him one more week to get ready. We really need him to be a playmaker this year.
     
  10. Mystic Merlin

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    Yep. Bill came out and said he's behind the other players (unsurprising), so I bet this is the angle.
     
  11. dcmissle

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  12. mwonow

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    I think Michel (knee) is going to be a weekly entry this year.

    Hopefully, it's like Brady (shoulder) was a few years ago, and not a serious constraint
     
  13. normstalls

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  14. Kliq

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    My understanding is the Pats have a difficult schedule but is buoyed by the AFC East teams. In addition to the playoff teams; they have a few contests against teams that likely could have made the playoffs last season if it wasn’t for injuries; such as Green Bay and Indy.
     
  15. RedOctober3829

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    Strength of schedule numbers are pretty much worthless. It's based on last year's record which doesn't mean a whole lot.
     
  16. tims4wins

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    Barnwell does one based on last year's pythag, which at least is a little more accurate. Not sure if he publishes the full list though.
     
  17. RedOctober3829

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    NYC gets screwed again with the archaic blackout rules. Giants are on at 1 so CBS is running Chiefs-Chargers in NYC late. No 1 pm game.

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    Houston-NE: Red
    KC-LAC late: Purple
    Pit-Cle: Green
    Buf-Bal: Yellow
    Cin-Ind: Brown
     
  18. Boston Brawler

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    Yup, I’m getting screwed in the KC region this year.
     
  19. shoosh77

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    Is Sunday Ticket free this week? Otherwise it’s open house shopping time.
     
  20. Jed Zeppelin

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    On a similar note—what is the best way to listen to an out of town game on one's mobile device? I will...*gulp*...be attending a different game.
     
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  22. RedOctober3829

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    Duke Dawson was a DNP today. Hollister and Sony Michel were limited and Cannon/Ebner/Bentley were full participants.
     
  23. tims4wins

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    Dawson to IT. McCarron up.
     
  24. RedOctober3829

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  25. E5 Yaz

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    Mike Reiss picks the Texans
     
  26. RedOctober3829

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    So did every Globe writer.
     
  27. RedOctober3829

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    Final injury report

    Limited--Cannon, Ebner, Michel, Hollister.

    Bentley was removed from the report.
     
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  29. Saints Rest

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    I haven’t been in NYC needing to watch from a bar in a few years. What are the best Pats-friendly bars nowadays? I get off work around 12:45 on the UES (Park and 66) so bonus value for places that I can get to faster from there.
     
  30. tims4wins

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  31. DaveRoberts'Shoes

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    I’m on call thia weekend so I’m starting gameday by fixing a hip fracture but I’ll be out of here by 10:30 at the latest and we should be cruising into Gillette right before kickoff. Less than ideal, but I’ll make it work
     
  32. RedOctober3829

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    Professor Thom’s
     
  33. RedOctober3829

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    Projecting the Inactives
    Sony Michel
    Jacob Hollister
    Chad Hansen
    Brian Schwenkie
    Keionta Davis
    Elandon Roberts
    Jason McCourty
     
  34. Mystic Merlin

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    Not feeling super confident about this one. Watson is a marvelous player, and the Houston front - which has given the Pats problems at times - is formidable.

    This game might require a key two minute drill, and/ or may be a shootout. Not sure I am confident (yet) that we have the secondary targets at receiver that you need to win in either of those scenarios. I mean, Gronk, Burkhead, White, and Hogan can’t catch 35 passes between them.

    For that matter, I gotta say that I’m skeptical that Hogan can consistently win against Joseph or Johnson.
     
  35. Ale Xander

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    I'm almost thinking White and Burkhead need to combine for 15/180 (in the air) for them to win tonight.
     
  36. tims4wins

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    Crazy how few are picking the Pats
     
  37. eustis22

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    I'm picturing eric rowe flailing 3 yards behind hopkins
     
  38. BigSoxFan

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    I’m sick of the city of Houston. Pats better show up although, like many others, I’m not overly confident. Maybe the defense will surprise us. Or something.
     
  39. CreedBratton

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    Let’s goooooooo WE BACK
     
  40. RoyHobbs

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    I've been feeling all week this could be like the 2012 home opener. They were flat in that game.

    Glad they're back and can't wait to see what Patterson is able to do.

    Edit - "home" opener
     
  41. IdiotKicker

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    Perfect day for football. I haven’t been that excited about this season, probably because of the Pats drama, NFL generally being shitty about most things, and also the fact that my Celtics infatuation seems to make everything else less important eight now. But just the weather has me fired up for this game now for some reason. Let’s party.
     
  42. RedOctober3829

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    Will Fuller is officially out today for the Texans per Adam Schefter. One less deep weapon for the Pats to have to cover.
     
  43. RedOctober3829

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    Patriots Inactives
    Sony Michel
    Keion Crossen
    JC Jackson
    Chad Hansen
    Derek Rivers
    Jacob Hollister
    Brian Schwenke

    I did not think that Crossen or Jackson would be inactive.
     
  44. Mystic Merlin

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    Rivers inactive? It’s not like they’re 5 deep at DE, does this mean they’re only dressing Flowers, Clayborn, and Wise in terms of guys who profile at DE?

    I suppose Hightower could get some play as a rusher, but do we really want Van Noy spying?

    Might be a big nickel game with Chung as a spy/lurker.
     
  45. Dick Drago

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    Any upper west side suggestions to watch? My old haunts are closed...
     
  46. Dick Drago

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    Looks like Davis has passed Rivers on depth chart.
     
  47. Mystic Merlin

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    Yeah, total brain fart on my part. Davis and Grissom are active.
     
  48. Dick Drago

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    Denzera, are you UWS for the game?
     
  49. NJ_Sox_Fan

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    Hopkins will torch them at least twice but Brady gets it done with Gronk, White and Hogan. Pats are scoring 35+
     
  50. SeoulSoxFan

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    Besides Brady's ability to make soup out of sludge, I'm counting on the front-seven to control this game.

    And hoping Watson's ACL has a couple of more weeks to get in game shape.

    LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
     

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