That's crap, her finish of Zingano, who beat Nunes, is one of the coolest wins in UFC history. Pulling a submission out of that exchange showed a level of athleticism and creativity that you don't regularly see in male MMA today.
This is not true. Once again, she beat someone who beat the current champ 2.5 years ago. She also beat Alexis Davis, who beat Nunes as well.
Cormier and Maia can both slip a punch. Cormier in particular can trade when he needs to. You don't need to be a 9 or 10 stand up guy, but you can't be a 2.
Agreed.
Can I ask what you see in her besides the arm bar and judo background? She appears to have very few natural abilities. I've never seen a fighter with such poor instincts and reflexes.
Yup. Marciano is right on this. The corner starts to scream head movement 2 seconds into the fight.
We been here before. You dont see that in mens mma anymore because of the huge talent pool. Its easy to look like Jordan playing against a bunch of rec league players. Nunes is here now and its a new day. These new chicks can actually knock your block off.
She was the tallest midget.
Nunes has the talent to develop. Like all great athletes, including your boy Carr. Again, what do you see in Rousey in terms of physical skills that make you believe she has what it takes to be a great fighter. She does not even have the coordination to throw a proper combination. That's not mental. Not being able to avoid punches isn't mental. I was saying this stuff after she knocked out Correia. Even in that dominating win I said her stand up is trash and a decent fighter would decimate her. Now she's facing decent fighters.
Was Zingano, who lasted less than 20 seconds with Rousey, a decent fighter? For the fourth time, she beat the fuck out of Nunes. Was Davis, who lasted less than a minute with Rousey, a decent fighter? She also TKOed Nunes.
No she didn't, as Helwani pointed out, Rhonda could cover up for how shitty her act has been over the last year with just one interview tonight, but she won't do it. It was pathetic watching Dana White make excuses for Rousey and pointing out how "she is handling this better than the Holm loss"
I don't like Rousey either, but this seems a bit exaggerated. Did she train properly for this fight? The results would indicate no. But I think prime Rousey absolutely had the foundation to be a "decent" fighter. I mean, she was an Olympian. You're essentially saying she's been shit, and calling her "the most incomplete fighter you've ever seen" seems like a bit of hyperbole as well. If she was as bad as you're making her out to be, we never would have heard of her.
Let's assume she didn't "train properly" for the fight. Let's assume she spent 80% of her time working on striking. After a year she doesn't have the balance or coordination to throw a combination properly or dodge a punch. What else besides a lack of athleticism would cause that deficiency?
Nunes just beat down the two best fighters in the history of the sport, so I am reluctant to criticize her, but I would take that bet. Cat's ranked 6th, which is really 5th because Holm is a 145 now and considering the issues in her personal life, I don't know if she'll be back again. But I saw that fight 30 months ago and she savaged Nunes in the 2nd & 3rd rounds.
I do not like Rousey, but I felt bad. I know that her evasion is lacking, but she looked shellshocked even walking out to the ring. She is (was) better then she showed last night, but she's broken. I've seen drunks at a bar dodge faster. Without hyperbole, that really looked like that was her first fight. I thought she'd struggle, but fuck me. She's broken and not fixable.
http://www.mmafighting.com/2016/12/31/14133444/amanda-nunes-rips-edmond-tarverdyan-ufc-207-win-ronda-rousey
Skip #4. She's done zero learning since she got into the sport.
As champ, I'm sure Nunes and Rousey both got PPV points, so if the PPV drew anything decent, Nunes made 7 figures.
Rousey basically surrounded herself with a bunch of yes men who told her what she wanted to hear and built her up in her mind to be the Muhammad Ali of women's MMA and invincible. As soon as Holly Holm handed her ass to her, what she should have done was cleaned house and started over with a new coach, a new team, and taken some time to learn some new skills. That's what Rocky did against Clubber. But Rousey didn't do that and decided not to put in any work on learning something new and kept all those people around telling her how great she is. She needed to tear it all down, build a new foundation and work her way back up. Instead, she put some random rebar in the building and called it structurally sound despite having her crumbling foundation sitting on sand instead of bedrock. She might have one more chance to do try that and fight again in another year or 18 months (and that may not even be enough). But she seems to be someone without any inner self-confidence, which is why she surrounds herself with yes men. She needs an MMA intervention.
I watched her entire press conference, and Inhave to say, I think she's a breath of fresh air. Extremely confident, but also grateful, enthusiastic, and honest. Just a really likeable woman. I hope she keeps the belt for a bit and gets to make some money for her and her family.
You know Rocky is just a movie, right? "She should have got a whole new team. That's what Rocky did!"
I totally agree. Dana White was making excuses last night for why he focused the entire promotion on Rousey and I think he was dead wrong. Nunes is a great fighter, has a great personality, has an interesting and important story as a pioneer in sport and I really admire her confidence using her second language. She will be around for a while.
http://www.espn.com/mma/story/_/id/18381624/ronda-rousey-handling-defeat-was-telling-ufc-207-mma
"Ronda! Hello! Vincent Kennedy McMahon, here..."
Vision, I guess? The ability to see and anticipate punches coming? Although it's kinda clear at this point that she sucks at that, too.
I'm not going to lie, I was delighted to see her lose because it lowers the chance of her being brought in and occupying a bunch of TV time making resting bitch face. However, WWE could just bring her in and market her as being the best female fighter ever and since she is still the biggest star some people will still believe that.
Is it as simple as she never faced strikers like Holm and Nunes when she was on her run? And if she had, losses would have piled up earlier? Or was no one at the level Nunes is now 3-5 years ago?
You are not giving the new era WWE fans enough credit there. Ronda doesn't have the overall charisma and most likely the wrestling skill required to successfully pull that transition off (face or heel). She'd be good for the random pop, but ultimately just ends up getting booed out of the building faster then Roman Reigns as a regular. Not in the good way either.
Oh she is not going to be very good in wrestling. But she is still a big name that in theory could gain mainstream exposure and sell PPVs which is why they would bring her in. I think it would suck and bore me to tears, but they could still do it.
I honestly don't know enough about the division to say whether there were strikers at that level 3-5 years ago, but Rousey definitely never faced anyone who could throw like them during her reign.
Just because this has been bugging me for a couple days, you are shorting the hell out of Dominick Cruz here. He never lost against a small time inferior fighter. He had only lost once before Friday night (in 2007) and that was a title fight against Uriah Faber (an all time great) and a loss he avenged twice in two other title fights.
