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The actual deadline is about 5 weeks away, but the Olympic trade freeze goes into effect on 2/7. Trade chatter has begun to pick up in advance of the Olympic freeze, and some teams may sell parts before then. So time to start figuring out the Bruins needs and assets going in. They have ~$3 in cap space right now, but they have not put Seidenberg on LTIR yet. When they do that, they'll have north of $6 million to work with.

Their need seemspretty obvious- a veteran left shot defenseman to fill some of the void created by Seidenberg's injury. Henrik Talinder on a crappy Buffalo team seems to be a fit. Maybe Mark Stuart fits as well. Unfortunately, defenseman are hard to come by this time of year. Dan Gitardi's name has floated around, but I don't see him as a great fit.

Up front, the Bruins are pretty much set. The biggest upgrade they can get is getting Loui Eriksson comfortable and producing like he did in Dallas. He appears to be doing just that, which is great. Depth wise, maybe they look for. Caron upgrade, but I'm not sure they'll find much. They also have Spooner ready to go if they lose a top 9 forward. At this point, I really don't see the need to grab another forward.
 

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I'm with the Fl4wl3ss one. Especially considering what's out there and the prices. Unless there's a random vet who can come in and be the 7th d-man and won't cost much other than a draft pick or various fillers. But even then...
 

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I would love to see them upgrade the LH D-man on the 2nd pairing. I don't think Bartkowski is going to cut it full time as a top 4 Dman in the playoffs, and putting Krug there will hurt his offensive production (especially with PP time). 
 
That said, I'm not sure there is an upgrade available on the market, and if there is what it would cost. I think as constituted they are an ECF bound team, but need another piece on defense to win the Cup.
 
I agree they definitely don't need a forward.
 

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Ryan Callahan would be an upgrade on Chris Kelly, but I think it would be way too much to give to the Rangers for him as a rental.  If they are to go get somebody, I agree with getting somebody on defense.
 

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Tallinder is interesting to me he is big and he could skate,  not sure what is left in the tank
 
Mark Stuart. Boston has 8 guys I'd rather see on the ice than Stuart.   He is veteran, but not very good.
 
Giradi, if he came relatively cheap.
 
The other name thrown around a lot is Chris Phillips.  Honestly I have concerns that you would have to overpay, (say Bart and a 2),  and more importantly I have concerns that he'll come here and be worse than Bart is at this stage in his career
 

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Florida has to be willing to trade Brian Campbell right? He's a left shot and not a rental so I'd be willing to give up decent picks and prospects for him. And are there really other teams who are going to give up a ton of value for a 34 year old defenseman with 2 more years at 7 million on their contract? The B's have plenty of options to fix next year's cap in the offseason. This team can win now with another top pair D-man.
 
People might be scarred by the Kaberle ordeal, but Campbell is a far superior player. Do it Chia. Then do this dance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVtvuO7bpcc
 

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Who is scarred by the Kaberle deal? They won a Cup, he took ice time over Shane Hnidy, he led all defensemen on the team in playoff points, and Colborne hasn't turned into shit. I can't imagine why anyone would regret that deal.
 

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Campbell, while a good player, doesn't exactly fit their need. He's a puck moving d man, and very good offensively. Surprisingly the Bruins have been much better in that aspect this year with the additions of the young guys, Krug, Bart and Hamilton improving. The Bruins need a good stay at home, Seidenberg type. Campbell is not very good in his own end.

Honestly, Girardi is probably the best fit, however he probably won't be dealt now with the Rangers playing well and the cost would be prohibitive. Tallinder may indeed be their best bet for talent at a relatively cheaper cost.
 

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When you're trying to make the best decision and weigh value with people like Campbell, Tallinder, Staurt, Girardi...I think you come to the conclusion that your assets have more value than any of those back-end guys.  Keep your chips, if something falls your way at your price, be ready but otherwise, seems like a deadline to stay the course.
 

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I keep trying to think of a way to make Weber work - thinking that maybe Nashville might want to get out of the contract and how the Bs need a successor to Chara, etc.
 
But ugh $7.8M for another 12 years??
 

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Doubt he'll ever move, there's nobody better to mentor Jones.
 
Also, if he does ever move, the Flyers would trade their franchise for him.
 

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The Preds turned down 4 first round picks for Weber a year and a half ago, so there's a basic starting point for what Poile would want in terms of value.
 
Yeah, it's 1.5 years later and Nashville isn't great right now, but they're not that bad. They're 7 points out of a playoff spot in the very tough Western Conference despite missing Rinne for nearly the entire season. Rinne played in over 89% of Nashville's games the past two seasons, and over 70% four years in a row. He's the backbone of that team. To make matters worse, Nashville's two goalies this year (Hutton and Mazanec, responsible for 44 starts) came into the year with 1 combined game of NHL experience.
 
With high end prospects/young players like Seth Jones, Filip Forsberg, and Roman Josi, in combination with a Rinne return, Nashville could certainly improve from within. I don't think they're close to blowing it up.
 
Also, Weber's deal has been heavily front loaded. For a money conscious team like Nashville, Weber is only getting cheaper to them as he has a $14m salary for the first few years. Though his cap hit will be $7.8m for the course of the deal, Weber will "only" be due an average of $6.8m/year after this season. Obviously, that number will continue to go down over time, which is especially important to a team that doesn't usually approach the cap and seems to have a lower internal budget.
 

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Well we're into the freeze. I assume trade talks will be ongoing and we will see a bunch of moves finalized once the freeze is lifted. There are a bunch of guys expected to move (Vanek, Callahan, Miller) and other guys who may move (I wonder if Jersey will sell Jagr?). Also I'm wondering if the Letang news means the Pens go shopping for a D-man.
 
Things have been amazingly quiet around the Flyers. Holmgren is kind of notorious for having his finger in every pie most of the time but there hasn't been much buzz around them at all. They're probably too close to the playoff picture to be selling, but I still don't see the sense in buying. They're not a contender no matter what one player they might add, and anybody they could get cheaply won't really help them; they've got plenty of marginal guys, they need impact players. There was an Eklund rumor about Carolina and Hainsey which seemed bizarre because they're competing for the same playoff spot(s) and because Hainsey doesn't really help them. Then again, it's Eklund so take it for what it's worth...even though people still swear you can believe his Flyers stuff because of all the apparently good Flyers sources he has. Not buying it.
 

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MoGator71 said:
Also I'm wondering if the Letang news means the Pens go shopping for a D-man.
 
Letang has missed a ton of games already this season and the Penguins have a ton of depth on defense.  No reason to go after somebody else (their goals for and goals against are actually better w/o him, so while I certainly hope he recovers quickly, they seem to be fine when he doesn't play).  The Penguins need a top six forward much more since Dupuis is out for the year and Beau Bennett is untested and injury prone himself.
 

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Is there any chance they go after a real impact winger like Vanek? I'd vote for a Jagr trade just for the story, but I'm not sure how burnt those bridges are. 
 

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I'd never put anything past Ray but I don't know if he wants to mess with high-level rentals again given how much he sank into last year and it not working out.
 

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I'd never put anything past Ray but I don't know if he wants to mess with high-level rentals again given how much he sank into last year and it not working out.
 
I would think finding a winger for Crosby would be a lot more about finding a good fit than going out and adding the most talented guy anyway.
 

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I'm in the "don't do anything" camp right now. They don't need a forward, though I have an irrational desire to have the Bruins rent Jagr again. And I can't really think of a reasonably good mostly-stay-at-home defenseman who could be acquired for something reasonable.
 

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I'd like to add another D-man to the mix, just because they are awfully thin if another guy goes down, but I would also have to get a very favorable deal in order to do so.  Pretty content to stand pat.
 

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McQuaid will come back eventually (we hope).

So that gives the Bruins:
Chara/Boychuk/McQuaid/Hamilton/Krug/Bartkowski/Miller/Warsofski/Trotman for D who have all played up this year.

Unless they're getting a young stud - I don't really see the need.
 

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What's "reasonable" (as Blacken put it) for everyone?  Or favorable? 
 
If Peter Chiarelli shopped around the Iginla offer from last season, which if I recall correctly as a 1st rounder + Bart + Koko, I would expect that to be unreasonable for a rental player like Chris Phillips for most of us.  But, what about a 2nd and Bart?  A 1st and Warsofsky?  Just trying to get folks temperature on this while we wait for Olympic hockey to start.
 
If Phillips became available, I'd cough up a 1st and a Caron / Warsofsky type.  Or a roster player like Bartkowski and a 2nd (disclaimer: I'm not a huge fan of Bart).  I think they would really benefit from another grizzled veteran who can play the 4th slot on the top 4, banking on Hamilton to step it up but hedging against too much/too soon from the other kiddie D-corps. 
 

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Why don't you like Bart?  Moves the puck well, is positionally fairly sound in his own end, not as physical as Boychuk but not a light-hitter like Krug.  Solid B- guy.
 
There's strength in depth.  I wouldn't trade one of our regular NHL defenseman for an NHL defenseman unless we were getting a BIG upgrade.  Phillips' aging ass doesn't count as an upgrade in my book.  Maybe for a third rounder and a marginal prospect.
 

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Why don't you like Bart?  Moves the puck well, is positionally fairly sound in his own end, not as physical as Boychuk but not a light-hitter like Krug.  Solid B- guy.
 
There's strength in depth.  I wouldn't trade one of our regular NHL defenseman for an NHL defenseman unless we were getting a BIG upgrade.  Phillips' aging ass doesn't count as an upgrade in my book.  Maybe for a third rounder and a marginal prospect.
 
I don't follow the Bruins like many of you do obviously, but I'm curious who counts as a marginal prospect in your eyes? I would have viewed Bartkowski as just that, but you folks know his game better than I do. There seems to be an absolute wealth of guys who can play 5-8 defenseman roles in the NHL right now. Washington has put serviceable defensemen like Urbom, Oleksy, and Kundratek on waivers this year. They've also used guys like Strachan, Schmidt, Wey, Brouillette, Carrick on the AHL/NHL shuttle, in addition to Erskine/Hillen . I guess my question is, do you think Bartkowski is going to amount to much more than a 3rd pairing defenseman*? If so, why? If not, what is a marginal prospect?
 
Edit: * That is to say, would you be comfortable with Bartkowski as a 2nd pairing guy on a Cup contender? Perhaps so. I'll need to watch some more of him this year.
 

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Why don't you like Bart?  Moves the puck well, is positionally fairly sound in his own end, not as physical as Boychuk but not a light-hitter like Krug.  Solid B- guy.
 
There's strength in depth.  I wouldn't trade one of our regular NHL defenseman for an NHL defenseman unless we were getting a BIG upgrade.  Phillips' aging ass doesn't count as an upgrade in my book.  Maybe for a third rounder and a marginal prospect.
 
I'll start a new thread on that later so as to not clutter this one. 
 

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I don't follow the Bruins like many of you do obviously, but I'm curious who counts as a marginal prospect in your eyes? I would have viewed Bartkowski as just that, but you folks know his game better than I do. There seems to be an absolute wealth of guys who can play 5-8 defenseman roles in the NHL right now. Washington has put serviceable defensemen like Urbom, Oleksy, and Kundratek on waivers this year. They've also used guys like Strachan, Schmidt, Wey, Brouillette, Carrick on the AHL/NHL shuttle, in addition to Erskine/Hillen . I guess my question is, do you think Bartkowski is going to amount to much more than a 3rd pairing defenseman*? If so, why? If not, what is a marginal prospect?
 
Edit: * That is to say, would you be comfortable with Bartkowski as a 2nd pairing guy on a Cup contender? Perhaps so. I'll need to watch some more of him this year.
AHL/NHL shuttle guys are marginal prospects - guys who can play in the NHL in a pinch but who you wouldn't want on your team full time.  
 
Bart is at the point now where I am fine having him play 82 games for this team.  He's not a 2nd pairing guy, but he's a solid 3rd pairing player on this team who's still relatively young for a defenseman at 25 and cheap.  His biggest drawback is that he makes mental mistakes, but he's only about 60 games into his NHL career at this point and I think Claude can tighten him up.    
 

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AHL/NHL shuttle guys are marginal prospects - guys who can play in the NHL in a pinch but who you wouldn't want on your team full time.  
 
Bart is at the point now where I am fine having him play 82 games for this team.  He's not a 2nd pairing guy, but he's a solid 3rd pairing player on this team who's still relatively young for a defenseman at 25 and cheap.  His biggest drawback is that he makes mental mistakes, but he's only about 60 games into his NHL career at this point and I think Claude can tighten him up.    
 
My point was that a lot of those "shuttle guys" I mentioned would be capable full time. It's actually because Washington has such a wealth of 5-7 defensemen (and a real lack of a 4th defenseman) that they've rotated through so many options. They've used 13 defenemen this year despite Carlson and Alzner playing every game. Green has missed just 8 games, so their top-3 has been relatively consistent. Six other defenseman (Carrick, Erskine, Oleksy, Orlov, Schmidt, Urbom) 20-33 games for the Caps, while four guys have played 12 games or fewer (Brouillette, Hillen Strachan, Wey), though Brouillette and Wey were both starting just before the break.
 
Steve Oleksy was on the Caps full time for close to a year and many were surprised to see him sent down. Erskine and Hillen are full timers who have been hurt at times. I would have absolutely no problem with Nate Schmidt (just 22) or Connor Carrick (19) playing full time with the Caps, and I forgot to mention Dmitri Orlov (22) in my original post who is becoming increasingly more regular. Sure, some of those guys (e.g., Strachan, Brouillette) are just filler. However, there's a ton of guys who can already play 3rd pairing minutes in the NHL, many of whom are younger than Bartkowski. With guys like (e.g.) Oleksy or Urbom available for free and NCAA free agents like DeKeyser/Krug/Schmidt, it would seem a poor use of resources to give up much for Bartkowski unless there's something to his game I'm really not getting.
 

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Why do we give a shit what the Capitals are doing with their defensemen. You're arguing that the Bruins have many options to replace Bartkowski because the (not going to make the playoffs) Capitals have rotated through so many mediocre defensemen this season?
 
I don't get your point.
 

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My point was that a lot of those "shuttle guys" I mentioned would be capable full time. It's actually because Washington has such a wealth of 5-7 defensemen (and a real lack of a 4th defenseman) that they've rotated through so many options. They've used 13 defenemen this year despite Carlson and Alzner playing every game. Green has missed just 8 games, so their top-3 has been relatively consistent. Six other defenseman (Carrick, Erskine, Oleksy, Orlov, Schmidt, Urbom) 20-33 games for the Caps, while four guys have played 12 games or fewer (Brouillette, Hillen Strachan, Wey), though Brouillette and Wey were both starting just before the break.
 
Steve Oleksy was on the Caps full time for close to a year and many were surprised to see him sent down. Erskine and Hillen are full timers who have been hurt at times. I would have absolutely no problem with Nate Schmidt (just 22) or Connor Carrick (19) playing full time with the Caps, and I forgot to mention Dmitri Orlov (22) in my original post who is becoming increasingly more regular. Sure, some of those guys (e.g., Strachan, Brouillette) are just filler. However, there's a ton of guys who can already play 3rd pairing minutes in the NHL, many of whom are younger than Bartkowski. With guys like (e.g.) Oleksy or Urbom available for free and NCAA free agents like DeKeyser/Krug/Schmidt, it would seem a poor use of resources to give up much for Bartkowski unless there's something to his game I'm really not getting.
I think perhaps we are still crossing wires.  You asked what I defined as a marginal prospect in response to my statement that I would trade a marginal prospect and a pick for Phillips as he wouldn't be a big enough upgrade in my book.  A guy whose potential is NHL/AHL shuttle is a marginal prospect to me.  
 
Bart's potential is probably solid 3rd line (he's basically reached this) or marginal 2nd line and is therefore not a marginal prospect to me. He skates and breaks out the puck well, has some physicality and has generally been fairly sound positionally on defense. He does need to continue to clean up the mental end of his defensive game to get to his potential, but I think Julien can get him to do that.  As I said in the Bartkowski thread, we've seen Claude do it with Boychuk, so there's precedent.
 
I don't know much about any of those players as I don't watch the Caps much, but If none of those guys can stick on a team that is not exactly known for its defense, I'm not sure if they are equivalent to Bart now.  
 

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Why do we give a shit what the Capitals are doing with their defensemen. You're arguing that the Bruins have many options to replace Bartkowski because the (not going to make the playoffs) Capitals have rotated through so many mediocre defensemen this season?
 
I don't get your point.
 
Ha. Love the shot at the Capitals.
 
The point, using what I've already written:
 
a) "Would you be comfortable with Bartkowski as a 2nd pairing guy on a Cup contender?" If yes, then we're done. There are certainly those here who don't think he's that caliber. From what I've seen, which is less than you guys, I'm not convinced. If you're not comfortable with Bartkowski in that role, continue to the next point.
b) "There seems to be an absolute wealth of guys who can play 5-8 defenseman roles in the NHL right now." I used Washington as an example since I am most familiar with them. On Boston, examples would seem to be McQuaid, Bartkowski, and Miller. Possibly Warsofsky and Trotman (?) -- I really don't know their games. The point is, pretty much every team has these guys which by nature makes them less valuable.
c) "With guys like (e.g.) Oleksy or Urbom available for free and NCAA free agents like DeKeyser/Krug/Schmidt, it would seem a poor use of resources to give up much for Bartkowski unless there's something to his game I'm really not getting." In other words, if Bartkowski isn't a true top-4 guy, what makes him so valuable? Third pairing guys are available for free, very cheaply, or findable in a journeyman vet type (e.g., Miller).
 
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I don't know much about any of those players as I don't watch the Caps much, but If none of those guys can stick on a team that is not exactly known for its defense, I'm not sure if they are equivalent to Bart now.  
 
It's not so much that none of them can stick (though many probably couldn't), it's that Oates is a huge tinkerer with lines and lineups and also incredibly anal about lefty-righty pairings. This is a guy who has bench Martin Erat for many games, rotated between three goalies as his starter, and used Casey Wellman/Jay Beagle on his second line at times. Some of them could and would stick on other teams or if Oates just rolled with them. Oates also seems to like rotating through guys to keep people fresh, give young guys experience, and reward AHL play. He also seems to like change almost for the sake of change at times.
 
Nonetheless, Oleksy was on the roster for nearly a year until Washington sent him down a couple weeks ago. Orlov would have been on most NHL rosters from day one. He's very talented and a good skater with high upside, but often tries to make the fancy play instead of the right play. Unfortunately, his style of play doesn't make for a great partner with either Carlson or Green at the moment. My deepest apologies to FL4WL3SS for having to read about the Caps.
 

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Erik Gustafsson, perfect example of a marginal prospect. He's a guy who does a lot of things reasonably well, he doesn't have any glaring weaknesses (other than size) where you worry about him, but he also doesn't do anything so well where he's forcing himself into anybody's top-4. He's been kicking around the Flyers roster for a couple of years as a 6/7th defenseman, but currently he's settled in as Luke Schenn's regular partner because his style and skill set mesh well with Schenn (he's positionally sound, skates pretty well, and can be counted on to make the safe play). Schenn is a gambler, so when Berube tries to pair him with Meszaros who also likes to gamble (offensively, rather than looking to make big hits like Luke does) the results range from risky to disastrous. So Gus plays, and Flyers fans are happy he does. But if he got offered around in trade he likely gets you something between a low pick and a "who?"
 

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Ha. Love the shot at the Capitals.
 
The point, using what I've already written:
 
a) "Would you be comfortable with Bartkowski as a 2nd pairing guy on a Cup contender?" If yes, then we're done. There are certainly those here who don't think he's that caliber. From what I've seen, which is less than you guys, I'm not convinced. If you're not comfortable with Bartkowski in that role, continue to the next point.
 
The other big question then becomes, is there anyone available on the trade market who you would be comfortable with as a 2nd pairing guy?
 
You can certainly make the argument for Giradi who might be available, but would cost a fortune.  And would make the top unit painfully slow
 
Phillips?   Five years ago maybe,  but now?
 
Tallinder?  See Phillips?
 
Andrew MacDonald?    Nice enough player on the Island, and he does block shots,  but my understanding is there are a lot of warts on that game
 

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My point wasn't to take a shot at the Capitals, but to ask why we should be comparing what they are doing to a first place team. The situations are not at all comparable.
Well to be fair he isn't neccesarily comparing what the Capitals are doing to what the Bruins are doing. Obviously they don't have the goaltending or top notch defender that the Bruins have, nor the balanced forward group.

However his point stands. He is just stating a fact that a lot of teams have a glut of d-men who are 5-6 defenseman and that Bart probably falls in that category, as well as McQuaid, Warsofsky, and Miller, and they really wouldn't be worth a whole lot to another team in a trade.
 

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The other big question then becomes, is there anyone available on the trade market who you would be comfortable with as a 2nd pairing guy?
 
You can certainly make the argument for Giradi who might be available, but would cost a fortune.  And would make the top unit painfully slow
 
Phillips?   Five years ago maybe,  but now?
 
Tallinder?  See Phillips?
 
Andrew MacDonald?    Nice enough player on the Island, and he does block shots,  but my understanding is there are a lot of warts on that game
in my humble opinion, the only name out there who would be able to adequately replace Seids would be Girardi. However the Rangers stated recently that they are trying to re-sign him, and even if he was moved the price would be prohibitive I think. Not sure there's anything out there right now worth trading for.
 

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Girardi's a bad fit. Even if the Rangers decide to move him, which I find very unlikely, he'll cost a fortune to acquire and he plays the right side which isn't a great fit for the Bruins. Heck of a player, but it seems like a square peg, round hole scenario for the Bruins. You'd have to thrust Boychuk or Hamilton to the left side, and neither has played that side. 
 
Edit: Chiarelli said he's looking more for a veteran defensive dman. The top and bottom pairs seem pretty much set for the Bruins. 
 
Chara - Boychuk
Bartkowski - Hamilton
Krug - McQuaid/Miller 
 
So Bart's spot is the only real question mark. They'll have to figure out if the acquisition cost to pick up McDonald/Tallinder/Phillips is worth the upgrade on Bartkowski. If not, we're looking at simply searching around for this year's Wade Redden or Greg Zanon. 
 

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Boomer Esiason(I know, I know) tweeted this weekend that he's heard that a major trade is going to go down involving Ryan Callahan. He claims to know the details, but won't share them. All he'll say is that a major player is coming back and he's "hated" by Rangers fans.
 

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Boomer Esiason(I know, I know) tweeted this weekend that he's heard that a major trade is going to go down involving Ryan Callahan. He claims to know the details, but won't share them. All he'll say is that a major player is coming back and he's "hated" by Rangers fans.
 
Torts is coming back to NYC?
 

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RedOctober3829 said:
Boomer Esiason(I know, I know) tweeted this weekend that he's heard that a major trade is going to go down involving Ryan Callahan. He claims to know the details, but won't share them. All he'll say is that a major player is coming back and he's "hated" by Rangers fans.
 
Denis Potvin?
 

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RedOctober3829 said:
Boomer Esiason(I know, I know) tweeted this weekend that he's heard that a major trade is going to go down involving Ryan Callahan. He claims to know the details, but won't share them. All he'll say is that a major player is coming back and he's "hated" by Rangers fans.
 
A friend of mine had mentioned to me what Boomer said and a rumor was it was Lucic or Marchand. I know, there's no chance in hell that happens. Nor would I want it to, but that's just one of many rumors about Callahan.
 

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Callahan and what for Vanek.  The Rags need the scoring especially with Zucarello out for a month due to his injury in Sochi and the Islanders need to get something for Vanek.  So Callahan and a first or are there any good/decent Ranger prospects that can even out that deal?
 
I'll be honest I don't think any Rangers fan hates any Bruin's player enough for Boomer to say that about a Boston player.  I'd be looking at the Island, Philly, New Jersey and/or players who used to be on those teams but are elsewhere for this deal.  Also if Chiarelli trades either Lucic or Marchand for a 3rd liner I will be enraged.
 
Also per ESPN on potential trade targets they list Marian Gaborik, he didn't say anything dumb as he was being sent to Columbus did he, about the Rags or their fans?  If he did he might be the "hated" one.
 

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There is no way this would involve the Bruins, it would be completely pointless and unnecessary for the Bruins to do a trade like that, unless they were getting a stud d-man back as well
 

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Speculation now is that it's Martin St Louis because Boomer said it was a player who just left the Olympics and is a first line winger on an Eastern team who's not Boston, Philly, Pitt, Isles and Devils.