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Toucher and Rich --- Everyone Else Has Some Work To Do

Discussion in 'Our Errors are Mistakes: The Media Forum' started by HomeBrew1901, Jul 27, 2009.

  1. HomeBrew1901

    HomeBrew1901 Has Season 1 of "Manimal" on Blu Ray SoSH Member

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    Played like puppy poo on the radio. After all the hype (which was legitimately funny) it didn't hold my interest, definitely something you needed to see
     
  2. Lose Remerswaal

    Lose Remerswaal Leaves after the 8th inning Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    The Ainge story about going for the FT% title this AM was great
     
  3. NortheasternPJ

    NortheasternPJ Member SoSH Member

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    Agreed. Him saying he’d hit the first one and then call time out to negotiate with Bird was awesome.
     
  4. Rusty13

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    “John from Vegas” is Captain Janks right? It’s his exact voice.
     
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  5. Lose Remerswaal

    Lose Remerswaal Leaves after the 8th inning Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    Would he really go so small time?
     
  6. GeorgeCostanza

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    That was a totally farcical call. Lest anyone think that was somebody truly across the street...

    And baba booey to y’all.
     
  7. PC Drunken Friar

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    They really need to kill the "Sarge Sucks" stuff. They are acting like 8 year olds and rehash it every single day in the 6 AM hour. Like literally, they talk about how 5 or 6 dudes call into overnight shows, the weekend shows, even Zo and Beetle and rehash what transpired and how pissed off the other hosts were. It isn't funny (and not just because it is a little bit mean spirited. They really have gotten old (literally...their 80's music references seem just so out of place) very quickly. Rich has always been a dorky type guy, but now he is constantly acting like an old dorky guy. Something needs to change.
     
  8. 8slim

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    I guess you can argue that the Sarge calls peaked when they got on Finebaum and Hannity, but I still find it amusing to be honest.

    As for the pop culture references, I mean it's a sports talk radio show, so the bulk of the audience is squarely in the middle of Gen X. References past the late 90s/early 00s (which they also make) would have a creepy Bill Simmons vibe to them. Just in my opinion.
     
  9. JCizzle

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    I wish I had 1% of Mark Gemelli's happiness. What a joy.

    "I finally get to go to Bernie and Phil's, what a treat!"
     
  10. NortheasternPJ

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    That was awesome. He was actually crying. I can't wait to hear the Bernie & Phyls ad.
     
  11. DisgruntledSoxFan77

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    Funny thing is I didn't hear the show, but I totally heard this in his voice as I read it.
     
  12. NortheasternPJ

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    Wow Fred is losing it on Beetle & Zo. He's legit pissed.
     
  13. Haunted

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    I love Fredrants. What’s this about?
     
  14. JCizzle

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    The crossover almost ended the beef, but oh boy Beetle tripled down and even Rich gave it to him. This didnt strike me as an EEI manufactured thing either.
     
  15. NortheasternPJ

    NortheasternPJ Member SoSH Member

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    If WEEI callers want to hear what a real show fight sounds like 9:55-10:05 was that.
    Beetle was annoyed about Sarge stuff yesterday and said on the air a bunch of shit about T&R's show quality. Fred got pissed
     
  16. NortheasternPJ

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    Beetle saying "go we got TV to do" was not the right move on his part.

    Rich was also being a prick with threatening them about criticizing their show though.
     
  17. Rusty13

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    Wow. I only caught the end of that. Absolutely surreal. I bet they delete it from the 4th hour podcast. Beetle needs a cream soda.
     
  18. Rusty13

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    Zo and Bertrand are no selling it now Zeus the Human Wrecking Machine style circa 1989. As if it never happened.
     
  19. steveluck7

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    I think Rich only got "prick-ish" when Beetle doubled down on attacking T & R's show and his "we've got TV to do, go." and "You're on my time now."
    Beetle looks worse in this, IMO. He's basically telling Fred and Rich that he doesn't believe / trust them. They stated many times "don't call into other shows on this station." Beetle claims they did so with a wink and a nod. I don't know what else T & R could do.
    If the show tweeted "NO MORE SARGE CALLS TO OTHER SHOWS ON 98.5" its seems like Beetle would think they tweeted that to encourage listeners to make the calls.
     
  20. NortheasternPJ

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    Beetle definitely came off as thinking he's superior to T&R and that T&R is a Morning Zoo, not sophisticated like Beetle & Zo.

    I used to be a big fan of Beetle but he's becoming more of a prick all the time.
     
  21. Rusty13

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    I hope Beetle realizes this will probably only get worse for him now. I bet "Jon from Vegas" et. al. now morph this into "Beetle Sucks" calls. Sarge might be off the hook!
     
  22. Sinistas

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    Bertrand was good before he was infected/worn down by Felger.
     
  23. JCizzle

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    Totally agreed. He made a name initially by actually pushing back against Felger and now he feels like yet another person trying to become Felger. Zzzzz

    I think Fred, having been in radio for way longer, doesn't appreciate the former Wallach in a meh timeslot coming at him. His instincts are clearly way better than Bertrand's due to his experience.
     
  24. Rusty13

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    Amazingly, it hasn't been scrubbed from the 4th hour podcast that was just uploaded (as of yet.) Starts about the 36:15 mark.

     
  25. redsoxedmunds24

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    They said weeks ago to stop doing it to the other shows on the station and Zo said no keep them coming as he has several times along the way so they’ve kept going with it. I guess Beetle doesn’t want to go at his co host about this.
     
  26. NickEsasky

    NickEsasky Please Hammer, Don't Hurt 'Em SoSH Member

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    Just listened. Wow. A former flash boy acting like he is some kind of high brow journalist is hilarious. It's sports fucking radio. 90% of the media in this market are such dbags.
     
  27. NortheasternPJ

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    I know a lot of people don't like Hardy but my favorite part of that whole segment was when Hardy said "we have TV to do, bye!" sarcastically mocking Bertrand.
     
  28. Riconway3155

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    Totally agree. I don't know how you can hate Hardy. The guy is great and his production is second to none.

    Bertrand came off like a gigantic ass. Wow.
     
  29. Ralphwiggum

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    Here it is with video:

     
  30. DisgruntledSoxFan77

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    We just need a mass purging of sports talk radio in Boston. Legit, T&R are by far the only ones worth listening to across 2 stations, and they're not even strictly sports talk. It's amazing to me how anyone can listen to these garbage shows!

    *I admit I don't know anything about Zo, he just comes across to me too much of a homer so I never listen to him. He could be great, that's just my issue with him*
     
  31. kenneycb

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    Zo looks like an old, "coked up Goodfellas" version of Ray Liota in that video.
     
  32. 8slim

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    Crazy. The first few minutes were pretty inocuous so I was wondering what the big deal was. But oh boy the last 2 minutes were realllly awkward. And yeah, Bertrand comes off as terrible there.
     
  33. RedOctober3829

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    Beetle comes off as very childish.
     
  34. taoofoj

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    I love T&R but the Sarge sucks stuff is hacky; they encouraged it and that's not debatable. It's gone on for too long and Beetle let it get under his skin and acted dickish. But to me the worst part of it all - by far - was Rich's 'people who have called out the quality of the show...things don't end well for them' nonsense. Truly cringeworthy stuff.
     
  35. Hendu for Kutch

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    It came off to me like Fred was just trying to warn him that they're just going to double and triple down if he acted like a dink about it. Not a threat, just saying that acting that way will only make it way worse. That's how I heard it, anyways.
     
  36. JCizzle

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    I took it as: look at what happened to Kirk Minihane. Don't try and become him with this feuding crap.
     
  37. NortheasternPJ

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    Nice to have the Twitch feed up. Also a bonus they don't drop callers on Twitch so you can tell what the hell happened. I've never been on Twitch, but I'm guessing the comments section is a Twitter like sewer based upon the feed so far. They don't seem too happy with Beetle.

    The call about "how did you get fired' as awesome when they guy called in and said that he was a dick on the radio to the morning show and some guy from Vegas took his job.
     
  38. HomeBrew1901

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    Still there and there's no way that was a work. These guys were legitimately pissed and Zolak and Hardy sounded extremely uncomfortable and like they agreed Bertrand was crossing a line and starting a war that they wanted no part of.

    Loved when Rich slammed Bertrand about why they were on TV now and that the station was contractually obligated to carry 2 shows and T&R said they were tired of it, not because NBC Decided they wanted the mid day show.

    End of the day, it will amount to nothing but friends having an argument and they'll move on. The Sarge stuff will ultimately die because if T&R aren't playing it then it'll just be a couple of morons with nothing to do pranking other stations for no reason.
     
  39. HomeBrew1901

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    From this morning's show... Wallach needs to STFU when the big boys are talking. I want to hear what Troy Brown thinks of the Chargers and other topics, not some 50 something update guy who has somehow kept a job in Boston sports radio far longer than he should have.
     
  40. Rusty13

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    It's only going to get worse I'm afraid. Now that Mike Gorman has extended his contract as C's tv PBP for another 3 years, the trickle down effect Wallach was hoping for with Grande going to tv and the full time radio gig becoming available has now vanished likely for good. Wallach will become even more intolerable, trying to stay "relevant" as a likely "Flash Guy" for life. We are stuck with him.
     
  41. jayhoz

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  42. JCizzle

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    Excellent news! Like anyone who is on for four hours a day, their stuff gets stale at times, but they still manage to not take themselves too seriously and continue to come up with new bits like Nick's dad to keep things fresh.
     
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  43. HomeBrew1901

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    For those of us that can't see the tweet because they are disabled at work...
     
  44. JCizzle

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    They resigned to stay in Boston. I'm assuming for at least a few more years, I'm not sure how long these contracts usually run.
     
  45. steveluck7

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    Not to be grammar cop but since the tweet and photo aren’t visible and to avoid possible confusion...
    T & R re-signed
     
  46. NortheasternPJ

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    Great news. Fred’s going to have to find another 15 minutes per show to fill now since he can’t bitch about his contract for awhile.

    This should help Fred make the payments on his Jaguar.

    You know Fred is definitely getting shitfaced at a bar in Newton right now.
     
  47. 8slim

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    Great news. Still by far the best radio show in Boston.
     
  48. shawnrbu

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    Does this mean Johnny Wallgame did not get a contract extension?
     
  49. Patriot_Reign

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    i think wallach's contract is on a different schedule then t&r's
     
  50. JCizzle

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    Pasta Joe once a year is perfect. This guy is the laziest motherfucker of all time.
     

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