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Toucher and Rich --- Everyone Else Has Some Work To Do

Discussion in 'Our Errors are Mistakes: The Media Forum' started by HomeBrew1901, Jul 27, 2009.

  1. Lose Remerswaal

    Lose Remerswaal Leaves after the 8th inning Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    Jones has a very good 2nd now
     
  2. Over Guapo Grande

    Over Guapo Grande panty merchant SoSH Member

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    The problem is the 1st.
     
  3. NortheasternPJ

    NortheasternPJ Member SoSH Member

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    Sarge is so bad. He’s really awful. Why does he have a job?
     
  4. Rusty13

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    I listened to a little bit this morning around 7:00ish, and they were talking about the end of the simulcast. Fred, essentially said that the reason they are happy the simulcast is ending is mostly financial. I think it actually hurts their bottom line in terms of ratings, and the revenue received from the simulcast must not be worth it.

    However, he also said that NBCSN Boston still wants to have two simulcast shows on its airwaves (Felger and Mazz are staying on). But he didn't say (or maybe he doesn't know?), who that other show would be. Zo and Bertrand? Would they pluck an EEI show to maybe balance out TSH?
     
  5. NortheasternPJ

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    It has to be Beetle and Zo. They’ve been pushing for it on the air for awhile.
     
  6. Rusty13

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    Got ya. I don't see how a simulcast would add to their show, however. They don't really do any bits or anything that I could possibly see as needing a "visual" component to add to the enjoyment of the show. Although...neither did "Mike and Mike".
     
  7. DisgruntledSoxFan77

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    I have to stop listening when one of the guys is out. Jones and his snort-laugh is just nails on the chalkboard annoying! Is this whole station just shit compared to Fred and Rich?? I haven't heard anything else on there that I even slightly enjoy
     
  8. NDame616

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    I think it's because Zo sort of has a brand. The whole Josie thing, "Sup Zo?" shirts that they said a billion times sold out in 6 minutes or something, etc. I think he actually has a following who have known who he was for 20-25 years.
     
  9. Pablo's TB Lover

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    I suspect it's geared to football season when Zo and Beetle are onsite in Foxboro, for training camp and weekday preseason or regular season games when they have duties later in the day anyway. Toucher and Rich didn't do many "on location" shows. The NBCSN people figure they can push their branded TV football people onto the radio/simulcast on location moreso than a T & R type show.
     
  10. MuzzyField

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    Starting the simulcast day at 10 also shrinks the work day on the TV side. 10-6 is better than 6-6 from a NBCSNB staffing standpoint. At this point every bean matters.
     
  11. NortheasternPJ

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    Sarge has to be on the autism spectrum right? The fact he can't figure out how the Funny You Should Ask game even works is amazing.
     
  12. DisgruntledSoxFan77

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    This drunken idiot Scott is the new Rock and Roll Mike. Was slightly amusing the first time but now he's an automatic fast forward every time I hear that Voice. T&R running another bit directly into the ground!

    Also super annoying the way Rich keeps harping on Anthony Davis. Holy shit dude, he's not available!
     
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  13. allstonite

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    I'm a big fan of the show and love Rich (though I haven't been listening much lately) but he still doesn't understand the nuances of how sports operate. I'm not sure I'm wording it right but when they get into the weeds it's obvious he didn't grow up watching sports. Stuff that is obvious to me and readers of this board never really occur to him.

    An example is the early days of having Ainge on he would consistently ask about potential trade targets and Ainge would have to shut him down because he can't talk about other players. I think eventually it became a joke and he'd ask about Lebron around his last free agency but it was awkward early on.

    I think the Anthony Davis thing is probably similar. He gets ideas in his head that are at least defensible and hammers them again and again. He doesn't have a wealth of knowledge to fall back on and create new ideas so he repeats the same few points
     
  14. steveluck7

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    I think you're correct on Rich's depth of sport understanding but I don't think it applies here. Davis COULD be traded (to Boston, or anywhere) and listening to Rich, his point was that with Cousins deciding not to return to NOLA, maybe it's not a place that players want to be and maybe AD will have similar feelings and therefore NO will decide to trade him when they can.
    Again, not likely but certainly not impossible
     
  15. DisgruntledSoxFan77

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    And yet everybody talks about how much he likes it in NO but all Rich harps on is that one instance where KG told him about wasting his talent and he agreed. Hell, Durant COULD opt out again next year and take the veteran's minimum to play for the Celtics. It could happen but is so unlikely it doesn't need to be brought up every time a basketball conversation occurs
     
  16. NDame616

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    I'll give them a pass. It's the worst time of year to talk about sports. No NFL training camp, dog days of baseball season, NBA is starting summer league.

    And the "AD to the Cs" conversation happens a lot on every show on 98.5. F&M spend hours talking about it.
     
  17. Sir Lancelotti

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    I agree with giving them a pass based on the sports calendar, for some of the dog days of summer I wish TSH pretty much gave them carte blanche to do free form and just let them riff on their bread and butter like pop culture and music for 4 hours, you can tell how painful it is for them to try to fill airtime with the manufactured sports filler like summer league NBA and Gronkowski trade rumors. They try and compensate by running bits into the ground which becomes stale radio very quickly, 98.5 Mile worked at first as a summertime buffer but even that became a drawn out bore.

    I don't think the program director neuters them too much in general , I just think I'd enjoy 4 hours of stuff they get to in "The Stack" like ripping on bad new movies and crazy news stories.
     
  18. Haunted

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    I agree. I was a fan in the BCN days and while they're plenty talented enough to switch to sports and succeed (obviously), I think by far their best work was when they could talk about whatever they wanted.
     
  19. NortheasternPJ

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    Well they did spend 20 minutes on 90210 so they have some freedom. Wallach and Fred’s knowledge of 90210 is scary since it was 20 years ago.
     
  20. shaggydog2000

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    I've been pleased by the return of "I Rule." It's no "What's Tappenin'?", but it's good goofy fun.
     
  21. DisgruntledSoxFan77

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    Will be taking a 2 week break from the show. Not dealing with the rotating cast of shitty substitute cohosts. No thanks...

    For guys who say they liked Opie and Anthony they sure didn't know much about things they played constantly. O&A used to play that Ass Man song as often as they could.
     
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  22. shaggydog2000

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    Wow, you really sound...disgruntled.

    What could they do to make you gruntled?
     
  23. NortheasternPJ

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    I used to listen to O&A back on WAAF and don't remember that song, but I lost track of them after they got fired. I loved that break today, even if O&A played 15 years ago, which I don't remember.

    In terms of rotating cast, it really depends who. Haggs is brutal in his Star Wars baseball jerseys which are awful and 2 sizes too small for him, I actually don't mind Jones with him and I like Hardy. It's the dog days of summer so I can't give them too much shit.
     
  24. DisgruntledSoxFan77

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    Nah this was much later, during their satellite radio days. *Disclaimer: O&A show on satellite, so expect language that won't be for everyone*


    I honestly don't like any of the fill-ins, they're all pretty awful. Sarge... No comment. Hardy just comes across with this undeserved smugness. Jones, I cannot stand his laugh. Roche is just too Pollyanna for my tastes. Just have to use the time to catch up on some podcasts
     
  25. thebtskink

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    I listened to O&A regularly during the XM era and barely remember this.
     
  26. bosox79

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    I've said this before, but these radio hosts are filling 4 hours of air time every single day. They are probably on auto pilot 99% of the time. No radio hosts have long term memories. They barely remember what they said 2 hours ago.
     
  27. jayhoz

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  28. NortheasternPJ

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    Not sure which 98.5 thread to post this in but 98.5 sounds like shit since they went to Dorchester. It sounds like they're on remote at the Garden or something. The audio is terrible, I hope they fix it.
     
  29. GeorgeCostanza

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    Agreed. Sounds like they have the compression jacked.
     
  30. steveluck7

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    How are you guys listening? I thought they sounded much better (clearer) in my car
     

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