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Discussion in 'Our Errors are Mistakes: The Media Forum' started by E5 Yaz, Nov 7, 2013.

  1. mauidano

    mauidano Mai Tais for everyone! SoSH Member

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    Incredible. The Manti Teo story was bizarre a few years back but how did this go on for as long as it did? There are some very gullible and stupid people out there. Quite sad actually.
     
  2. E5 Yaz

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    When I read about something like this, I get around to wondering just how many people are behind all of SoSH's posters. A dozen?
     
  3. joe dokes

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    Volin continues to befuddle. Gronk's incentive-laden contract is bad for the team. The only way this makes sense is if Gronkowski is deciding how much he plays:

    https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/...riots-needs/h9HFpOV0cZSJ5XG0NZ5fkK/story.html

    Yeah, Ben, he was demonstratively pleading for the TD because of the incentives, not because he really did catch the ball. Absent incentives, he wouldv'e just walked away and said "touchdown smutchdown, who cares?"
     
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  5. John Marzano Olympic Hero

    John Marzano Olympic Hero has fancy plans, and pants to match Dope

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    I sorta get what he's saying here: would you rather go to nine Super Bowls or six. But he's so dense, it's not funny.
     
  6. joe dokes

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    Since you dont get to decide before the game if you're going to win or lose, I'd guess most pro football players would rather be 0-10 in Super Bowls than 0-0.
     
  7. moondog80

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    Saying 5-1 is better than 5-4 is like saying you’d rather finish 3rd (or worse) than 2nd.
     
  8. Kliq

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    Yup, it’s the same as saying that Montana never losing a SB and winning four is superior to winning five and losing two. It completely ignores the fact that it’s more impressive to lose in the SB than to lose in the playoffs, or worse not make the playoffs at all. The only way that statement makes any sense is if your entire knowledge of the NFL consists of who played in the SB every year.

    Whatever, he’s a troll that likely has plenty of people on Twitter ready to react.
     
  9. Humphrey

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    Montana played for the Niners 12 years, started for the most part the last 10; won the SB 4 times, so let's compare the 6 years he was the full time starter to the 12 years Brady has been (I'm excluding 79 and 80 in the case of Montana; 00 and 08 in the case of Brady).

    In those 6 years Montana missed the playoffs once and won two (yes, two) playoff games. In two of the losses his team was held to a single field goal.

    In Brady's 12 years he missed the playoffs once, won 8 playoff games (pro rated to Montana's number of years that's still twice as many) and made the Super Bowl twice. I think all of us can come up with a list of who we think are/were pretty good quarterbacks who haven't done as well as that. He had a few bad games in there, but nothing as bad as Montana pair of 3's.

    I think this proves what an idiot Volin is.
     
  10. joe dokes

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  11. edmunddantes

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    http://boston.cbslocal.com/2018/01/...alse-matt-cassel-jimmy-garoppolo-equivalency/

    Hurley with another great article.

     
  12. ifmanis5

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  13. nattysez

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    I got like 3 minutes in and just thought, "if the guys filming this don't give a shit, why should I?" Between the content and the unskippable ad before it, I think that'll be the last time I click on a Deadspin video for a while.
     
  14. ifmanis5

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    Interesting, I didn't get an ad. I did get terrible content though. Which is a shame because with the right talent (and more than 5 cents of production value) that is a great concept.
     
  15. shawnrbu

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    Gary Tanguay says he has received info on the Pats gameplan from multiple sources. Tanguay has revealed that James White is going to see increased playing time early in the game with Dion Lewis being on the field less than we have come to expect.
     
  16. Over Guapo Grande

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    I started writing a reply to that, but all it boiled down to was "Is Tanguay an idiot?". And I think that there is overwhelming evidence, even prior to this, to support that
     
  17. NDame616

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    T&R keep talking about Roche not going to Sox spring training. Anyone know why?
     
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  19. Spacemans Bong

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    Man, if the Athletic can ever establish a Boston sports presence...
     
  20. JCizzle

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    No idea, but I do legitimately feel bad for him. He seems to truly enjoy it and his interviews get me pretty hyped for the upcoming season
     
  21. nattysez

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    The Athletic feels like The National all over again. They're putting together a stellar roster of writers, but it's hard to believe paying all those high-level writers and editors is going to be sustainable.
     
  22. Reverend

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    Editors?
     
  23. Spacemans Bong

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    I don't know, this is a way different media environment than 1990. Wasn't the National's ultimate failing that they weren't really offering something the audience wanted, that is local sports coverage better than the local paper? They're pretty close to doing that now, with newspapers being on their knees.

    Plus the clean web experience and subscription costs make it different than Grantland, which was also an attempt to recreate The National.

    Emma Span and James Mirtle are pretty big gets for baseball and hockey coverage.
     
  24. joe dokes

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    Roche is literally the *only* sideline/stands/dugout "reporter" that ever brought anything to any broadcast Ive watched in the last 20 years or so, when he had the Sox gig on one of their broadcast channels. Maybe he had more freedom, but now its little more than rehashing everything you missed on the pregame show. Even if that's discussing the segment where today's starting pitcher talks about his good health, even if that pitcher dropped dead the inning before.
    Roche knows how to do interviews.
     
  25. KingChre

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    I couldn't find a thread on Steve Buckley exclusively, so I'll post this here (mods feel free to move it if I'm just an idiot), but I am very disappointed with this article from Steve today.

    http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/...rice_is_the_wrong_person_to_teach_jd_martinez

    I am aware of the story from last year with Price and Buckley, but this is the type of negative article that makes the Boston media look terrible. It was just last week that Price stood up in front of reporters and finally took some responsibility for his actions. Rather than giving him a chance to let his actions live up to his words, or even maybe, I don't know, writing an article about JD Martinez, we get this drivel about Price and his problems here.

    We couldn't even go 48 hours after the Martinez deal without getting a negatively slanted article about the Red Sox. This time after signing a big ticket Free Agent to a reasonable deal, that should improve the team.

    I'm not usually one for coddling highly paid grown men, but stuff like this really makes me see their side clearer.
     
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    NFL just put out a release: NFL Net & Fox will team up to simulcast live coverage of Rounds 1-3 of 2018 NFL Draft. ESPN2 will supplement ESPN's Round 1 coverage with a separate college-themed production, plus there will be a simulcast of ESPN's coverage of Rounds 4-7 on ABC.
     
  30. Red(s)HawksFan

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    I understand the draft is a big thing in the NFL off-season schedule, but does it really warrant five network saturation coverage? Holy shit.
     
  31. John Marzano Olympic Hero

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    I don't care as much about the NFL as I used to and I rarely watch college football, so I'm not the target audience here, but this is nothing but overkill. It's typical of the league to find something that people like and super size it to such a degree that they suck all of the enjoyment out of it.

    You like football? Well here's five days worth of football every week!
    You like the draft? Well we're expanding it to to four days over five channels!
    You like the offseason? Well guess what friend, it never stops to take a breath!

    But it makes them money so what the fuck do I know?
     
  32. tims4wins

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    Not to turn this into another NFL ratings thread, but I think this hits home for a lot of us. It was cool having a couple extra Saturday games in December once the college season was over... and it was cool having the traditional Thanksgiving games... and it was cool having a special Thursday night opener... but then TNF every week became too much.

    And the draft was always fun on Saturday for rounds 1-3... and they cut down on time to pick which was a great move... but then making it prime time over two days was overkill.

    As you said, the league doesn't know when to pull back, and I think it has impacted viewership.
     
  33. dcmissle

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    +1.

    NFL has irresistible impulse to big foot every other sport. By claiming every possible day in the week, then by trying to claim weeks and months during which it was traditionally pretty dormant. That backfired with traditionalists like me. A game has to be pretty special to get my attention on Monday and Thursday nights — and often on Sunday night. One reaches a point where less is more. I’m well beyond it.
     
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  38. axx

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    So the Denver Post did a "Visitors Guide to Coors Field"... and used a picture of Citizens Bank Park. How bad is that?
     
  39. RedOctober3829

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    Scott Lauber is leaving ESPN Boston to go back to Philadelphia to cover the Phillies for Philly.com.
     
  40. E5 Yaz

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    Sucks for Sox fans, but it's an interesting few coming years to cover the Phils
     
  41. jcd0805

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    Gary Tanguay is in the movie "Chappaquiddick" for some inexplicable reason.
     
  42. Humphrey

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    So now volins claiming bb made some of yesterday s swaps in order to "hide how little he got for Jimmy g". He really is a moron.
     
  43. shawnrbu

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    Trollin Volin:

    https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/...S5IwaTuSfJ/amp.html?__twitter_impression=true

     
  44. joe dokes

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    What neither Volin nor almost anyone else seems to understand is that to Belichick, "the return for JG" is not a thing. JG is gone. It stopped being "the return for JG" once the ink was dry on the trade. The stuff they got in the trade became "stuff the Patriots have." Then they traded that stuff for other stuff. Is there anyone with a functioning brain who actually thinks that BB cares whether the stuff he trades away cam from a trade, or whether they fell from Scott Zolak's ass.

    Volin's supposition isn't "cynical." Its moronic. It is fitting though, that "supposition" and "suppository" come from the same Latin root.
     
  45. OurF'ingCity

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    Agree that Volin's argument is utterly moronic for the reasons stated above, but, also - it's not "confusing." It's actually very easy to track, which Volin himself proved. It took all of three short sentences to describe exactly what the current status of picks derived from the JG trade is.

    Edited to add: Also, there's this gem:

    I don't think Volin understands how clocks work.
     
  46. Reverend

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    "sunk costs" are one of the things in economics that so many people get wrong.

    Belichick, of course, has a degree in economics.
     

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