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The sixers and building a winner

Discussion in 'Mark Blount's Port Cellar: Celtics Forum' started by LondonSox, Jul 11, 2014.

  1. The Needler

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    He's now down to 13.6 ppg on .420/.389 shooting. Tatum at 13.9ppg/.499/.459.

    In Covington's last 22 games, he's shot .366 from the field and .316 from 3pt, averaging 11.5 ppg. In his last twelve, 10.3/.347/.295.

    But he's still significantly better than Tatum according to offensive RPM. Of course, he's also better in overall RPM than Durant, Paul George, and all but 14 other players in the league. This is the same guy who just went 2-8 for 5 points, no steals, no blocks, in 30 minutes against the Celtics.
     
  2. Bob420

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    Bryan Colangelo is going to have busted on two #1 overall picks. That is really hard to do. Throw in the fact that he traded a potential top 5 pick for the 2nd bust and it makes it unprecedented suck. The guy is a fraud and what the NBA did to the Sixers is a shame.

    As a Sixers fan that almost walked away when the older snake hired junior, there is a little consolation in watching Bryan suck at his job
     
  3. jmm57

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    Simmons is a bust?
     
  4. Bob420

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    Bargnani certainly was a bust
     
  5. jmm57

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    That's fair, being in the Philly thread I thought you were talking about the two #1s with Philly.
     
  6. BigSoxFan

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    In fairness, that 2006 draft was an absolute land mine:

    1. Andrea Bargnani (BUST)
    2. LaMarcus Aldridge (Best player)
    3. Adam Morrison (HUUUUUGE BUST)
    4. Tyrus Thomas (BUST)
    5. Shelden Williams (BIG BUST)
    6. Brandon Roy (Great player but damaged goods)
    7. Randy Foye (Decent role player)
    8. Rudy Gay (Solid career)
    9. Patrick O’Bryant (BIG BUST)
    10. Mouhamed Sene (BIG BUST)

    Top 10 yielded one perennial all-star, a guy who would have been another but had 80 year-old knees, a decent second option, and a decent role player.

    Yuck.
     
  7. jmm57

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    Lowry at 24 and Millsap at 47 move wayyyyyyy up in the redraft.

    Aldridge
    Lowry
    Millsap
    Rondo
    Roy
    Redick
    Gay

    In the redraft?
     
  8. Bob420

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    It was a terrible draft but the best player was there at #2. Not some surprise later pick. He picked a complete bust at #1 and the 2nd player picked was very good.

    You get can get a pass for picking one bust in a bad draft and he did. Couple that with trading a potential top 5 pick for the opportunity to pick another bust and you take blame.

    He had a decent track record in identifying talent in the draft. He has a bad record in trades.

    The only reason he got the gift of the Sixers job was because of the league offices and his dad.
     
  9. jmm57

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    Aldridge is very fair criticism, I mostly just read ESPN type places but for a lot of the season Aldridge was considered the clear top pick. He went out on a limb for AB and it was a disaster.

    Bargnani actually did have a much better 09-12 run then I remember, so he wasn't totally awful I guess, as just a volume scorer.
     
  10. BigSoxFan

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    Not really disagreeing with you. I was pretty surprised when Aldridge wasn’t the top pick. Bargnani was just a stupid choice. It’s also too early to call Fultz a bust but obviously the early returns aren’t positive.

    For now, the returns of Noel/Okafor/Fultz, the #6, #3, and #1 picks is quite putrid. That’s a lot of wasted draft capital for a franchise.
     
  11. Bob420

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    I have no problem with Noel. 6th pick in the draft often yields that kind of player. Okafor was clearly a terrible pick. The whole idea was to get as many top picks as possible to draft franchise type players with the understanding that some won't work out. I won't lie and say I didn't like Fultz as the pick in this draft. But trading another potential top pick to move up goes against everything they worked to do. If Fultz busts(and these picks should not be busting as often as they are for sixers), ok Lakers pick is next up. Then Sacramento pick. I wanted to keep the picks at the time and obviously even more now.

    I have been told I have an irrational hate for the Colangelos but to be fair it started in Dec 2015.
     
  12. bosox79

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    I dunno if you can really blame him for taking Fultz even if Fultz is a bust. 29 out of 30 GMs would have made the same selection. You can dislike the trade, but after the traded was made, Fultz was the obvious choice.
     

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