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Discussion in 'Our Errors are Mistakes: The Media Forum' started by Cellar-Door, Jun 3, 2016.
I read the book(probably over 15 years ago), I forgot those details.
Misery, for sure. That movie is essentially a 2 person play.
I still have no idea what Apex Mountain means and it seems like nobody else does either. Including Simmons.
Having listened to precisely one Rewatchables podcast, I can authoritatively state: the categories are BS. Pithy categories worked as a framing device for Bill’s columns (I used it in my post nominating my ten favorite shows of 2018), but they really shoehorn discussion. I can see how they’d be useful to prompt discussion when you’re running low on material, but The Godfather is a rich movie. I enjoyed the first half discussion much more than the categories.
You need categories for scale and quality assurance. Apex Mountain just has no clear definition compared to Half Assed Internet Research and the like.
I would have picked Rollerball
My wife picked Harold and Walter go to New York.
Tate Frazier seems to actually be getting worse as he gets more experienced. You can hear him trying to think how he’s going to end every sentence after he starts it. Will often use the same word more than once While getting from A to B, brings repetitive stalling time-filling phrases and “uh”’s, and just says “Lombardi” for no good reason every other sentence. When Lombardi comes up with a phrase or a nickname Frazier thinks is clever, he beats it to death even when commenting on games/players that have nothing to do with them (“The Clapper”, “Huey Headlines”, “play left handed”, etc.)
Last year, somebody referred to Frazier as Ryan Howard to Bill Simmons’ Michael Scott. Which was hysterical and accurate...but since then Simmons has become more like Michael Scott at his best (intended as a compliment), while Tate Frazier has become Kevin.
If you took a shot for every time he said "Let's keep an eye on that" you would be hammered.
I don’t know how much he’s changed but i thought he was talking way too much on the recent episodes. No one is tuning in for him.
Meanwhile, I realized a couple weeks ago that Simmons hired nephew Kyle so he could quench his thirst for ‘toxic masculinity’ while not having to worry about a lawsuit from all the flakes his on staff.
Lombardi is fine, but man does he say some shit Yogi Berra would be proud of. His punchlines pithy and for about two seconds sounds like the expression of a key principle of team building, coaching or game management, but falls apart upon closer review.
‘What people don’t understand is you gotta not lose before you can win.’ Etc.
I wish I could remember some of the others.
I always assumed that apex mountain was if that particular performance from the actor/actress/director was the best of their career. But sometimes the guests will ask if it's more the person was at the peak of their career as opposed to just a single performance. Bill will often fall on the "yeah, but he/she won an oscar before/after this performance, so it can't be" crutch, so it's hard to tell what they even mean.
I like to think of Kyle as JB, the freeloading brother-in-law of Tom Cruise's character in American Made.
It's a category much like MVP as an award. It can mean their best performance, or a performance during their peak years, or a performance that really demonstrated how much juice they had in the industry, or their most iconic performance, or a performance that really established them as a superstar/movie star, or really any number of things that could be associated with the word 'apex' just like 'valuable'.
Also like MVP, it's that way to spur discussion.
Yeah, Simmons always refers to it as industry juice but it’s not clear he even holds himself to that definition.