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The Ringer

Discussion in 'Our Errors are Mistakes: The Media Forum' started by Cellar-Door, Jun 3, 2016.

  1. Cellar-Door

    Cellar-Door Member SoSH Member

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    Shea Serrano just always has topics that seem dumb, then he somehow pumps out good funny columns.
    He wrote a ton of words on Antonio Brown twerking, which included breaking down each pump, and the line:
    "Unsportsmanlike Conduct on the offense, no. 84. Making that thang clap. That 15-yard penalty will be assessed on the kickoff.”
    https://theringer.com/nfl-antonio-brown-twerking-penalty-646f473dd5af#.yja5wdrb4
     
  2. johnmd20

    johnmd20 voice of soccer Lifetime Member Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    That was a funny column and the picture of Brown's butt subtly twerking is phenomenal.

    #teamtwerk4
     
  3. Clears Cleaver

    Clears Cleaver Lil' Bill SoSH Member

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    Feels like the Ringer is starting to come into its own. It doesn't have Simmons to carry it in its infancy like Grantland did, but I found some enjoyable stories in the last couple days.
     
  4. EvilEmpire

    EvilEmpire Well-Known Member Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    That was fantastic. Thanks for posting it.
     
  5. Snodgrass'Muff

    Snodgrass'Muff oppresses WARmongers Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    They have a very solid MLB podcast as well. Good operation all around.

    Edit: Whoops, didn't realize this was page 2. Already been mentioned. Consider me a +1. Today's episode with Dave Cameron was great, as was last week's with Tom Tango and Darren Willman talking Statcast.
     
  6. CreightonGubanich

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  7. JBill

    JBill Well-Known Member Silver Supporter SoSH Member

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    They're churning out so much stuff between pods and articles I honestly can't find it all, but here a few I've enjoyed lately:

    Danny Chau I think usually writes about the NBA, but I loved his piece about hot chicken (warning, you will crave it after reading the piece):
    https://theringer.com/the-burning-desire-for-hot-chicken-bf87446b4dda#.9q4cpbsmm

    Lindsay Zoladz on nostalgia and the iPod: https://theringer.com/an-ode-to-the-ipod-classic-629e89681c6e#.tritwmu3f

    Kevin O'Connor with a Joel Embiid profile: https://theringer.com/joel-embiid-process-76ers-132abb28d20d#.x6gaf88mi

    Last link has an embedded mockumentary by the Ringer on Embiid's instagram videos, it made me laugh. (Shea Serrano: "Lebron. Is. Trash.")
     
  8. Papelbon's Poutine

    Papelbon's Poutine Homeland Security SoSH Member

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    I appreciate the pop culture angle, but did we need three different Brangelina articles today?
     
  9. Grin&MartyBarret

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    I just listened to the first NBA Show podcast with the new host, Chris Vernon.

    I'm not familiar with him, but color me unimpressed. He just came across as very old-school sports radio to me, and between he and Kevin O'Connor a lot of their NBA takes felt, well, not very smart. The contrast between the NBA Show and the Lowe/Arnowitz Lowe Post which I listened to right after was really stark. With all of the young NBA talent out there -- Nate Duncan, Zach Harper, Andrew Sharp, Ben Golliver, Jared Dubin, etc -- it seems sort of surprising to me that The Ringer hired Chris Vernon.

    Maybe he'll grow on me, he certainly has strong credentials, but he just sort of feels off-brand for the Ringer.
     
  10. Kliq

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    I'd like to think that eventually Lowe is going to come to The Ringer; I just get the sense that he and Simmons are really tight and love working with each other. The only thing I could see derailing them is money and ESPN could pay him the big bucks (which they should).
     
  11. mandro ramtinez

    mandro ramtinez Well-Known Member Silver Supporter SoSH Member

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    Lowe just signed a multi-year contract with ESPN this summer for solid dollars based on this article. If he's joining the Ringer, it's won't happen for some time.

    http://deadspin.com/zach-lowe-re-signs-with-espn-after-strong-pursuit-by-bl-1784278292/amp
     
  12. Kliq

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    Thanks for that. While I'd love to see him with Bill again; his work has not suffered since moving to ESPN.com. He still writes lengthy thoughtful articles and his podcast is still great.
     
  13. Eddie Jurak

    Eddie Jurak Go Leafs Go Lifetime Member Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    I don't know about Vernon, but I think O'Connor is very good.
     
  14. Cellar-Door

    Cellar-Door Member SoSH Member

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    O'Connor is very good, Vernon is basically a radio host. Sure seems like he's been brought in to host a bunch of shows on various sports, give mediocre sports radio opinions and keep the thing moving for the more talented people who co-host or are guests.

    Also on ringer today:
    Mark Titus (who was always pretty awful) did a shitty article about why Darko should have been a cult hero, without mentioning Freedarko, a site that launched a ton of guys' careers, and which it would be really difficult not to come across if you were pulling stuff to write a Darko as cult hero piece.
     
  15. Grin&MartyBarret

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    Gave another NBA Podcast a listen, and it really didn't do much to sway me on Vernon. In fact, I actually like him less now than I did prior.

    He had Tim Bontemps on and they were discussing the Knicks, who Vernon is high on this year. Bontemps basically made the point that the Knicks lack any depth, and that the pieces don't work all that well together -- which is the point everybody is making, and is extremely valid. And Vernon basically just laughed him off. Didn't support why he thought the Knicks where going to be good, just literally laughed Bontemps off and in particular criticized Bontemps insistence that Derrick Rose was one of the worst players in the league last year. He actually, literally, told Bontemps to shut up.

    Meanwhile, Derrick Rose ranked 438 out of 462 eligible players in terms of RPM last season.
     
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  17. kenneycb

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    I similarly loved this background on the Hank Scorpio Simpsons episode, one of my favorites, though still probably behind the softball one. Which randomly reminded me of the scene of Whitey Ford getting pelted by pretzels. A sad day for baseball, indeed.

    https://theringer.com/the-simpsons-...licon-valley-villainy-42dacec839ad#.j47czkom2

    And speaking of Serrano, the Brock Osweiler one from the start of the season belongs in the OBJ thread in BBtL.

    https://theringer.com/where-will-brock-osweilers-first-texans-pass-go-8cd92ea5185c#.9bq9lbu46
     
  18. the1andonly3003

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  19. Sir Lancelotti

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    Rany Jazayerli contributed the best political longform i've read on the Ringer, pretty even handed critique of Obama's foreign policy and the Syrian crisis.

    He's pretty much a freelancer, but i've been a big fan of pretty much all the content he puts out, usually solid baseball analysis. His stuff on the Royals championship run from a KC fan perspective was right up there with anything Joe Pos put out. Here's hoping Simmons can make him a more regularly contributor, i find Lindbergh's and Baumans's baseball stuff to be dry and uninteresting.

    https://theringer.com/syria-barack-obama-legacy-853644abdd1b#.f3x8s6ol7
     
  20. HoyaSoxa

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    Is it just me, or has The Ringer had some really good articles over the past few weeks (none of which were written by the CEO)? I enjoyed Bryan Curtis on Obama's sports legacy, Mays on the Patriots running backs and LeVeon Bell, the Tuck Rule oral history, lots of good NBA stuff, and, the aforementioned Rany Jazayerli critique of Obama's Syria policy.

    Notably absent is Sam Donsky, who seems to have disappeared since November. I also expected them to tone down the politics post-election, especially after the Favreau crew started out on their own, but they seem to have more political or politics-adjacent content than ever, and a lot of it is even pretty good.
     
  21. Kliq

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    If you haven't played the interactive tanking game you should. It's the best idea they have ever had.
     
  22. heavyde050

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    I wholeheartedly agree. I just wish the game was longer.
    I could spend several hours on that game.
     
  23. Kliq

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    I haven't been able to quite master it. I got the superstar in the first draft but the next year I had the sixth pick and got the "player who dies tragically before training camp".
     
  24. heavyde050

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    I thought I won because I got fired after a few seasons and took a job in Silicon Valley. I basically did the Hinkie.
     
  25. johnmd20

    johnmd20 voice of soccer Lifetime Member Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    My picks keep dying tragically.
     
  26. the1andonly3003

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    why am I forced to sign veterans to help right away?
     
  27. jsinger121

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    Great pickup for the Ringer
     
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  29. Vinho Tinto

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    I noticed that he wasn't on FS1 lately. Perfect pairing of two thin skinned personalities who will never challenge what the other says.
     
  30. jsinger121

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    They will basically suck up to BB the entire time.
     
  31. the1andonly3003

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    noticed that WHDH is bringing on Kevin O'Connor onto Sports Xtra to talk NBA

    not sure what to make of it: can't make it big time at CSNNE/WBZ or Ringer NBA getting notice by local media
     
  32. Kliq

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    I definitely don't go on The Ringer as much as I did Grantland, although I do like that Bill is back writing once a week. The biggest plus has been KOC, who is a really good NBA guy and has filled the Zach Lowe-role very well. Shea usually is good for something light and Tjarks is good. I also like Hayley O'Shaughnessy, who I didn't know much about before The Ringer but has turned out some solid stuff.

    The thing about The Ringer is that it is clear that the writers are encouraged to experiment and pursue their own ideas. This can sometimes lead to really interesting stuff, but often times I find myself rolling my eyes at a headline or a story. That might also be because I find the media's obsession with certain quirks in pop culture annoying and The Ringer covers a lot of that.

    They have also openly embraced being a left-wing kind of site, which is fine but without the Keepin it 1600 guys around they don't have anyone with real political chops and often times whatever political points are being made are tied into some story about sports or pop culture. To me it comes across as the singer who starts talking about politics before they play one of their hits; nobody wants to listen to that kind of content, just play the damn song.
     
  33. ElUno20

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    Our President got his political acclaim being an Obama birther and savage on Twitter, we've long passed the "stick to your lane" thing.

    I think Bill or one of the channel 33 episode was even about this specifically. There is no more criteria for talking/being active in politics. It's all one now.
     
  34. Kliq

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    I don't care; if I wanted to hear actual analysis I wouldn't really bother to listen to someone whose job is to write about network television. It's not for me.
     
  35. johnmd20

    johnmd20 voice of soccer Lifetime Member Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    So don't read those columns. I mean, what the hell do you want? Right now, politics has infected everything. But you want a website that writes about almost everything not to cover it?
     
  36. Kliq

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    That is why I said I don't read it that much.
     

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