The Raiders relocation thread (3/27 viva Las Vegas Raiders!!!)
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That creates its own problems -- no one wants their players on a bus for 2+ hours the morning of a game. Also, unless Kingman and Barstow have blossomed in the 15 years since I was in those places, I doubt there are enough hotel rooms in either town of sufficient quality to avoid an NFLPA grievance.
In any event, I don't think the distractions in Vegas are qualitatively different than what exists in New Orleans, and to my knowledge that hasn't been any more of a problem than other road cities.
I would love them to come here.
We are getting the NHL team soon and the arena just opened for it and is apparently amazing.
We are getting the NHL team soon and the arena just opened for it and is apparently amazing.
I hate Spanos, I want the Raiders to move to San Diego for precisely this reason.
Interesting conversation with Vinny Bonseignor and Raider media employee JT the Brick.
http://wdfn.iheart.com/onair/jt-the-brick-46868/jt-gets-the-latest-on-the-14611444/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
http://wdfn.iheart.com/onair/jt-the-brick-46868/jt-gets-the-latest-on-the-14611444/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
This might actually happen:
Another interesting aspect is that Adelson, Wynn, Fretitta and Majestic are apparently not content with just UNLV and the Raiders as a lure, they are also adding soccer to the pitch:
Norm Clarke@Norm_Clarke
David Beckham joining Raiders' Mark Davis in Vegas to pitch stadium on Thursday is huge, with Beckham bringing deep soccer ties to table.
If the committee approves the funding plan, the legislature, could call a special session this summer to vote to approve funding and get the stadium ball rolling. If all of these pieces line up, you could see another move vote next January.
http://www.dailynews.com/sports/20160425/viva-las-raiders-owner-mark-davis-to-make-a-commitment-to-las-vegas-this-week
Another interesting aspect is that Adelson, Wynn, Fretitta and Majestic are apparently not content with just UNLV and the Raiders as a lure, they are also adding soccer to the pitch:
Norm Clarke@Norm_ClarkeDavid Beckham joining Raiders' Mark Davis in Vegas to pitch stadium on Thursday is huge, with Beckham bringing deep soccer ties to table.
If the committee approves the funding plan, the legislature, could call a special session this summer to vote to approve funding and get the stadium ball rolling. If all of these pieces line up, you could see another move vote next January.
If Beckham is involved, it might be useful to summon @Titans Bastard - that guy knows everything about soccer.This might actually happen:
http://www.dailynews.com/sports/20160425/viva-las-raiders-owner-mark-davis-to-make-a-commitment-to-las-vegas-this-week
Another interesting aspect is that Adelson, Wynn, Fretitta and Majestic are apparently not content with just UNLV and the Raiders as a lure, they are also adding soccer to the pitch:
David Beckham joining Raiders' Mark Davis in Vegas to pitch stadium on Thursday is huge, with Beckham bringing deep soccer ties to table.
If the committee approves the funding plan, the legislature, could call a special session this summer to vote to approve funding and get the stadium ball rolling. If all of these pieces line up, you could see another move vote next January.
ESPN NFL guy Paul Gutierrez is a former Raiders beat writer, but also a former Las Vegas resident and journalist, as well as UNLV grad. He is reporting for ESPN from the meeting today:
This is more money that I thought Mark was going to offer:
Mark Davis said the Raiders, so long as finances are sound on other end, are ready to contribute $500 million to stadium project. Said he wants to turn Nevada, "the Silver State into the Silver and Black State."
Preliminary Las Vegas stadium budget...
In case of a move to Las Vegas, stadium would take up to 36 months to build, so Raiders would most likely keep headquarters in Alameda and play an exhibition game in Las Vegas but play regular season games in Oakland. Raiders still have two one-year options at Coliseum through 2018.
This is more money that I thought Mark was going to offer:
Mark Davis said the Raiders, so long as finances are sound on other end, are ready to contribute $500 million to stadium project. Said he wants to turn Nevada, "the Silver State into the Silver and Black State."
Preliminary Las Vegas stadium budget...
In case of a move to Las Vegas, stadium would take up to 36 months to build, so Raiders would most likely keep headquarters in Alameda and play an exhibition game in Las Vegas but play regular season games in Oakland. Raiders still have two one-year options at Coliseum through 2018.
@Gunfighter 09
“@clarencehilljr: Jerry Jones is in favor of the idea of an NFL team in Las Vegas. He says the entertainment aspect outweighs gambling concerns”
Jerry Jones gives his approval
“@clarencehilljr: Jerry Jones is in favor of the idea of an NFL team in Las Vegas. He says the entertainment aspect outweighs gambling concerns”
Jerry Jones gives his approval
The legality of prostitution is merely the icing on the cake for Jerry.
More seriously, the Raiders should do this without question. Vegas is the last frontier of American professional sports and the team that breaks that barrier will reap significant (financial) rewards.
Supposedly Kraft, Kroenke and Jones all had a meeting with Wynn where they affirmed their support for the effort. Wynn has been very public with the fact that he and Kraft are besties, so I assume that vote is locked in.
Vinny Bonsignore was able to get the NFL on record that the $200M G4 loan can be used by the Raiders in Vegas. No word on whether the $100M "you lost the LA sweepstakes" gift from the NFL can also be applied in Vegas.
Vincent Bonsignore@DailyNewsVinnyVincent Bonsignore Retweeted Darren P. Arata
Except I just confirmed it with #NFL VP Eric Grubman.
Vincent Bonsignore added,
Darren P. Arata @DarrenPArata
@DailyNewsVinny Until the league officially bends it's own rule, that's complete speculation, and you know it.
Mark is not fucking around:
Here is a detailed timeline that came out of today's meeting of the SNTIC in Vegas. The Raiders President Mark Bandian addressed the commission.
Here is a detailed timeline that came out of today's meeting of the SNTIC in Vegas. The Raiders President Mark Bandian addressed the commission.
http://m.reviewjournal.com/sports/nfl-vegas/committee-hears-financing-details-timeline-domed-stadium-could-lure-raiders-las
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I did see that. Pats fans should enjoy seeing Sheldon call Kraft "Bobby."
Today the Southern Nevada Tourism and Infrastructure Committee recommended plan B for the stadium to the Nevada Governor, a Republican who will be term limited in 2018.
What that means:
(and pardon me if I am slightly off on a couple details the draft is here http://sntic.org/meeting/17/stadium/proposal/Stadium Legislative Recommendation DRAFT 9-13-16.pdf)
Raiders - $500M
Adelson (not Sands inc) - $650M
Hotel tax money from 25NM radius around Vegas - $750M
Adelson is responsible for cost overruns, the first $100M for construction, and the infrastructure improvements around the stadium sites. After than first $100M, the county will start paying in $50M per year, I don't know how the Raider's money is flowed in, though I imagine their $300M in NFL loans comes in at the start and the PSL money hits later. The stadium will be at one of two sites on the south end of the strip by the Mandalay Bay.
The two sites are the Bali Hai golf course on the right side of the 15, or the large open dirt lot on the left side of the 15.
I am not sure how the profit sharing, if there is any, works between Adelson and the City. That has gone back and forth for a while. I imagine that is the key concession that Adelson will give when this gets to the legislature, and there will be come profit sharing with the city, like we see in Santa Clara.
Now Governor Sandoval has two options. He can call a special session of the state legislatures (House and Senate) and needs 2/3 majorities in both of those houses for the plan to pass. He can also bypass the legislatures and get a simple majority from the Clark County Commission. As for how the votes will go, there are small Republican majorities in both houses. Obviously the Nevada Republicans are not going to vote against their benefactor Sheldon Adelson. Seeing how the service industry unions (bringing in Democrats) and all of the southern Nevada hotels are in support of the plan and the Raiders have agreed to do things like hold their training camps in Reno to appease northern Nevada legislators, I think it is likely to pass. That said, 66% is a large threshold and this is a huge amount of money. So, I am sure significant concessions will have to be given to get the vote done.
The $750M amount is incredible and will be the largest public stadium payout in American history. Of course, Adelson's $650M contribution is also the largest stadium investment from a non team owner in sports history. I am assuming we are going to hear about some sort of post Davis succession plan that significantly involves the Adelson family. I understand much of the analysis that discusses the negative financial impacts that stadium expenditures can have on cities, and I imagine the public coffers will lose money on this deal.
On the other hand, I can see the benefits of this stadium and getting an NFL team will have on Las Vegas. The Raiders will bring thousands of Californians to the city in what is typically a down time in the year for the Southern Nevada tourism industry. I imagine a state of the art 65,000 seat arena will also get a great deal of non football use with concerts, fights (UFC 300 will certainly be in the Sheldome) and inevitable college bowl game and labor day weekend games. I would vote for it if I was a Nevada legislator, but would demand Santa Clara style profit sharing.
As for Oakland, I am pretty indifferent between LA, Vegas or Oakland at this point, largely because of how dreadful the Coliseum has become and how badly the Oakland / Alameda politicians fucked this up. The gloating and rent raising that took place after the Raiders finished last in the LA sweepstakes was really stupid. The fact that the A's make a significant amount of money off of Raider games at the Coliseum is ludicrous. Northern California Raider fans don't deserve to lose the team twice, but the honest answer is that Al was a moron to ever come back.
Here is an image of the proposed Bali Hai site:
Today the Southern Nevada Tourism and Infrastructure Committee recommended plan B for the stadium to the Nevada Governor, a Republican who will be term limited in 2018.
What that means:
(and pardon me if I am slightly off on a couple details the draft is here http://sntic.org/meeting/17/stadium/proposal/Stadium Legislative Recommendation DRAFT 9-13-16.pdf)
Raiders - $500M
Adelson (not Sands inc) - $650M
Hotel tax money from 25NM radius around Vegas - $750M
Adelson is responsible for cost overruns, the first $100M for construction, and the infrastructure improvements around the stadium sites. After than first $100M, the county will start paying in $50M per year, I don't know how the Raider's money is flowed in, though I imagine their $300M in NFL loans comes in at the start and the PSL money hits later. The stadium will be at one of two sites on the south end of the strip by the Mandalay Bay.
The two sites are the Bali Hai golf course on the right side of the 15, or the large open dirt lot on the left side of the 15.
I am not sure how the profit sharing, if there is any, works between Adelson and the City. That has gone back and forth for a while. I imagine that is the key concession that Adelson will give when this gets to the legislature, and there will be come profit sharing with the city, like we see in Santa Clara.
Now Governor Sandoval has two options. He can call a special session of the state legislatures (House and Senate) and needs 2/3 majorities in both of those houses for the plan to pass. He can also bypass the legislatures and get a simple majority from the Clark County Commission. As for how the votes will go, there are small Republican majorities in both houses. Obviously the Nevada Republicans are not going to vote against their benefactor Sheldon Adelson. Seeing how the service industry unions (bringing in Democrats) and all of the southern Nevada hotels are in support of the plan and the Raiders have agreed to do things like hold their training camps in Reno to appease northern Nevada legislators, I think it is likely to pass. That said, 66% is a large threshold and this is a huge amount of money. So, I am sure significant concessions will have to be given to get the vote done.
The $750M amount is incredible and will be the largest public stadium payout in American history. Of course, Adelson's $650M contribution is also the largest stadium investment from a non team owner in sports history. I am assuming we are going to hear about some sort of post Davis succession plan that significantly involves the Adelson family. I understand much of the analysis that discusses the negative financial impacts that stadium expenditures can have on cities, and I imagine the public coffers will lose money on this deal.
On the other hand, I can see the benefits of this stadium and getting an NFL team will have on Las Vegas. The Raiders will bring thousands of Californians to the city in what is typically a down time in the year for the Southern Nevada tourism industry. I imagine a state of the art 65,000 seat arena will also get a great deal of non football use with concerts, fights (UFC 300 will certainly be in the Sheldome) and inevitable college bowl game and labor day weekend games. I would vote for it if I was a Nevada legislator, but would demand Santa Clara style profit sharing.
As for Oakland, I am pretty indifferent between LA, Vegas or Oakland at this point, largely because of how dreadful the Coliseum has become and how badly the Oakland / Alameda politicians fucked this up. The gloating and rent raising that took place after the Raiders finished last in the LA sweepstakes was really stupid. The fact that the A's make a significant amount of money off of Raider games at the Coliseum is ludicrous. Northern California Raider fans don't deserve to lose the team twice, but the honest answer is that Al was a moron to ever come back.
Here is an image of the proposed Bali Hai site:
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I'm definitely missing something here. Doesn't taking the open lot over the working golf course seem like a no-brainer? The sites are literally across the street from each other so it's not like you're looking at an empty lot on the outskirts or removing a golf course downtown. Is the footprint of the lot too small to work with effectively? Bad neighbors?
There might be a traffic/accessibility argument to be made for the golf course, being closer to 215 and existing routes into McCarran.
The Golf course is owned by a guy named Billy Waters who is under federal indictment for various political corruption scams and looking to offload the lease that he has on the site with the BLM & airport authority. Media reports make it seem like the golf course site lease can be had for pennies on the dollar. The Raiders / Sands group owns the Russel Road open lot on the west side of the 15.
The Bali Hai site is over 102 acres and the Russel road site is only 62. Despite the greater size, the southern 40 acres of the Bali Hai site is unbuildable due to runway incursion issues. All of the Bali Hai site has height restrictions that will require escavating to lower the height of the stadium. The appeal of the Bali Hai site is that it is on the "correct" side of the 15 relative to the strip and would be much easier to connect to the Vegas Monorail (part of the $300M in infrastructure costs) and much easier to access from the airport.
I think what you are most likely to see is the stadium on the northern end of the Bali Hai site just opposite the Mandalay Bay arena and the Raiders headquarters / Hall of Fame / Tailgating area on the other side of the 15 on the Russell Road Site. I think the Southern part of the Bali Hai site that is under the take off / landing corridor for the East/West runways at McCarran will wind up being a park or something like that.
http://www.ktnv.com/news/ralston/bali-hai-site-emerges-as-top-choice-of-stadium-developers-but-can-they-make-a-deal
http://www.reviewjournal.com/business/stadium/southwest-critical-bali-hai-site-proposed-stadium
The Bali Hai site is over 102 acres and the Russel road site is only 62. Despite the greater size, the southern 40 acres of the Bali Hai site is unbuildable due to runway incursion issues. All of the Bali Hai site has height restrictions that will require escavating to lower the height of the stadium. The appeal of the Bali Hai site is that it is on the "correct" side of the 15 relative to the strip and would be much easier to connect to the Vegas Monorail (part of the $300M in infrastructure costs) and much easier to access from the airport.
I think what you are most likely to see is the stadium on the northern end of the Bali Hai site just opposite the Mandalay Bay arena and the Raiders headquarters / Hall of Fame / Tailgating area on the other side of the 15 on the Russell Road Site. I think the Southern part of the Bali Hai site that is under the take off / landing corridor for the East/West runways at McCarran will wind up being a park or something like that.
http://www.ktnv.com/news/ralston/bali-hai-site-emerges-as-top-choice-of-stadium-developers-but-can-they-make-a-deal
http://www.reviewjournal.com/business/stadium/southwest-critical-bali-hai-site-proposed-stadium
Couldn't they do parking lots under the flight corridor, or is even that too much construction to have in-progress?
Wouldn't make for the greatest tailgating experience, but I don't know if that's a concern of theirs.
Homeland security must be shaking in there boots having a high crowd area basically in the flight path of a runway. FAA wouldnt know until it the very last second if there was suicidal hijackers or not.
Though to be fair there may be other stadiums all ready existing that are just as bad. (I havent seen every stadium in comparison to its local major airport.)
Edit: Looking at some quick Giant Stadium is pretty bad as well though not quite so egregious and the airport thats in line seems smaller.
Though to be fair there may be other stadiums all ready existing that are just as bad. (I havent seen every stadium in comparison to its local major airport.)
Edit: Looking at some quick Giant Stadium is pretty bad as well though not quite so egregious and the airport thats in line seems smaller.
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With the secured cockpits and (in many cases) armed pilots, I think they've got a 9/11-type attack well covered. The real risk is that an extremist (or perhaps a garden-variety psycho) gets a job as an airline or cargo pilot. I can't imagine the risk will be any greater in Las Vegas than it currently is at Newark, or for that matter several other big-city airports. (For example, if a pilot flying into Midway or O'Hare targeted The Loop, I doubt we could mobilize quickly enough to stop him/her.)
I'm not a "Vegas Guy" but I have to admit that a weekend getaway from LA to stay at MB or Luxor, go to a Raiders game, do the strip, have some good meals, etc., sounds like a great time. Expensive, but fun. I can see "Raiders/Vegas weekend" totally being a big thing.
When I saw the $750M in public money, I thought there was no way this was going to fly. Silly me! The bribes on this must be amazing.
Maybe the bigger concern would be an accident like a bad landing/takeoff. Obviously that's why the southern part of the course would not be usable, but still I can see why Southwest is concerned. It's literally next door.
Couple of days old, but the Nevada Governor called the special session to vote on the $750M for the Raiders / UNLV stadium in Vegas.
Calling it for early October leads me to believe that he must be pretty confident of a passage. Seeing how Adelson and Harry Reid are both vocal public supporters of the project, I will be surprised if it doesn't pass.
Calling it for early October leads me to believe that he must be pretty confident of a passage. Seeing how Adelson and Harry Reid are both vocal public supporters of the project, I will be surprised if it doesn't pass.
http://www.reviewjournal.com/business/stadium/gov-sandoval-plans-call-special-session-proposed-raiders-stadium
Brewer summed it up really well here:
http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2016/09/22/nfl-washington-redskins-kirk-cousins-themmqb-game-plan-week-3-albert-breer
I hope there is no additional burden on Clark County residential property tax payers. Nevada is one of the few states that has no state income tax on investment income including retirement income. Clark County has lots of retiree's (who moved there to avoid that tax), but their property tax is higher than neighboring states like Arizona and Utah. Residential property values in the area have slowly recovered from the housing crisis. There may be pushback from realtors.
It's all room tax. The only pushback from locals is that money would be better spent on the country's worst school system. I doubt the hotels would be ok with room tax that doesn't drive more bodies to rooms though.
Conflicting reports today.
La Canfora published this:
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-sending-strong-signals-to-bay-area-leaders-that-it-wants-raiders-in-oakland/
Then Jerry Jones gave the LV Review Journal an interview:
http://www.reviewjournal.com/sports/cowboys-owner-jones-urges-aggressiveness-bringing-raiders-las-vegas
La Canfora published this:
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-sending-strong-signals-to-bay-area-leaders-that-it-wants-raiders-in-oakland/
Then Jerry Jones gave the LV Review Journal an interview:
http://www.reviewjournal.com/sports/cowboys-owner-jones-urges-aggressiveness-bringing-raiders-las-vegas
I will have links later, but Gov. Sandoval announced the special session of the Nevada Legislature will meet on Monday morning at 8AM. The other big news is that there will now be one hotel tax vote, and that the hotel tax will be used for three things:
-the stadium for the Raiders and UNLV (that the Sands (Adelson) and UNLV really want)
-the new convention center (something all of the non Sands (read MGM, Wynn, Fretittas etc.) casinos want)
-Billions of new education funding (something the Democrats want)
Thus, this thing is likely guaranteed to pass, unless, of course, 1/3 of elected Nevada legislators hate the children of Nevada, or football, or UNLV, or conventions coming to Vegas.
The whole thing will be contingent on the NFL approving a Raiders move after the season, so expect the Nevada politicians to make sure NFL owners know that they will also be voting against education if they try and force Mark Davis to stay in Oakland. I feel a bit dirty, but damn this is impressive politically. How did Sheldon Adelson allow Trump to be the GOP nominee again???
-the stadium for the Raiders and UNLV (that the Sands (Adelson) and UNLV really want)
-the new convention center (something all of the non Sands (read MGM, Wynn, Fretittas etc.) casinos want)
-Billions of new education funding (something the Democrats want)
Thus, this thing is likely guaranteed to pass, unless, of course, 1/3 of elected Nevada legislators hate the children of Nevada, or football, or UNLV, or conventions coming to Vegas.
The whole thing will be contingent on the NFL approving a Raiders move after the season, so expect the Nevada politicians to make sure NFL owners know that they will also be voting against education if they try and force Mark Davis to stay in Oakland. I feel a bit dirty, but damn this is impressive politically. How did Sheldon Adelson allow Trump to be the GOP nominee again???
So what are the rules for changing fandom allegiance? I live in WA and have no reason to go back to the east coast. If the Raiders successfully move to Las Vegas I'll definitely be able to see them play once in a while. I went to Fresno State and am a big fan of Carr. I lived in the valley long enough when I was younger to have a soft spot for the Raiders long before Carr was drafted. The Raiders are on the come up but haven't achieved anything yet to have much of a bandwagon. I'm not a diehard football fan the way I am for baseball. Am I good to go? It still feels wrong.
We will proudly welcome you to the Raider nation, EE. In fact, my brother and I have an extra ticket for the showdown with KC next weekend if you can get to the Coliseum.
Just remember, in order to join the nation and hang out in these parts of the internet you have to accept in your heart the holy truth that Brady fumbled.
Just remember, in order to join the nation and hang out in these parts of the internet you have to accept in your heart the holy truth that Brady fumbled.
I hate to admit it but my patriots fandom started late. Always a Red Sox guy (due to dad going on a Mormon mission in Boston in the 70s). He was always a patriots guy and I rooted for them in 96, but didn't care for football again until 2001. And I was in high school playing football then and had the same uniforms as the raiders so I would play as them in Madden.
Then the snow ball happened and my lackluster enthusiasm for football and the raiders shifted to the patriots (mostly because of proximity to my dad). Then blossomed from there.
Cool story, Brandon.
Then the snow ball happened and my lackluster enthusiasm for football and the raiders shifted to the patriots (mostly because of proximity to my dad). Then blossomed from there.
Cool story, Brandon.
Very kind offer and I wish I could. Hope you guys have a great time.
Strangely enough, not a problem at all.
Edit: To make it official in the EE household, I'm going to pick up a jersey. Have to counter Mrs. EE's 49er's gear. While I said I'm a big Carr fan, I can't bring myself to wear a QB jersey. Just can't. Has to be #52 right? Mack is awesome. I've always loved Woodson though. So #24 has to get some consideration. He's old now too.
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Woodson and/or Mack are the right calls, and I concur on not wearing a QB jersey. I personally roll with an Otis Sistrunk #60, because he was a Marine
Your other options, assuming you want someone good and young who will be around for a while:
-3rd year guard Gabe Jackson #66 is awesome, simply a great fat man and football player. The risk is that he might be gone after next year if they don't want to have $20M tied up in the guard position after signing Osemele.
- You can't go wrong with Amari Cooper #89. Unless you don't want to come near the Saban/Alabama stink. The guy is going to have a 10-12 year career and be very productive.
- Cornerback David Amerson #29 is a hell of a story. He was cut by Washington last year and is now one of the top corners statistically in the league. He credits the turn around almost entirely to the fact that he stopped playing video games all night long after getting cut and coming to Oakland.
- Karl Joseph #42 has only played two games, but he looks like a savage, like another version of Bob Sanders.
Thanks, this is great. I played OG with a little bit of LB all through Pop Warner and HS, and have always appreciated the guys in the trenches. I'm also getting fat now
Mack and Jackson it is.
Appreciate the feedback.
And Education is off of the tax bill. The Clark county (Southern Nevada/Vegas) commissioners, the people who made this all happen, are not about to fund education across the state with Clark County tax money.
So, The Raiders, the governor and Adelson are left to count on 5 of the 6 major unions supporting the plan to ensure Democrat votes. My personal prediction is the that the stadium winds up sharing some revenue, which goes towards education state wide.
Follow this guy: @RalstonReports and Adelson's personal newspaper, the LV review Journal, if you want the story.
http://www.ktnv.com/news/ralston/room-tax-for-education-removed-after-sisolak-threatened-presser-caucuses-collapsed
So, The Raiders, the governor and Adelson are left to count on 5 of the 6 major unions supporting the plan to ensure Democrat votes. My personal prediction is the that the stadium winds up sharing some revenue, which goes towards education state wide.
Follow this guy: @RalstonReports and Adelson's personal newspaper, the LV review Journal, if you want the story.
http://www.ktnv.com/news/ralston/room-tax-for-education-removed-after-sisolak-threatened-presser-caucuses-collapsed
JasonColeBR
According to @joearrigo, Nevada legislature has passed agreement to spend $750M on Las Vegas stadium for #Raiders.
10/10/16, 1:10 PM
JasonColeBR
Nevada Gov Brian Sandoval expected to rubber stamp LV stadium for #Raiders. How does Oakland respond? Do NFL owners back the idea?
10/10/16, 1:14 PM
Paging @Gunfighter 09
According to @joearrigo, Nevada legislature has passed agreement to spend $750M on Las Vegas stadium for #Raiders.
10/10/16, 1:10 PM
JasonColeBR
Nevada Gov Brian Sandoval expected to rubber stamp LV stadium for #Raiders. How does Oakland respond? Do NFL owners back the idea?
10/10/16, 1:14 PM
Paging @Gunfighter 09
The benefit to the other owners is much less than that, and is partly offset by the small TV market. The main motive for the owners to do this is to put the NFL's weakest franchise business-wise in a more stable position.
I assume Adelson wouldn't have spent so much political capital without informal assurances that the votes were there, but a handful of owners with cold feet could nix the deal.
I really doubt the ownership group wants to go to war with Adelson. If they were to vote against Adelson, I think you would have Congressional concussion hearings within a month. Of course, if Trump eliminates the Republican majorities in both houses, perhaps they will be more likely to push back.
In more measurable arenas, Steve Wynn said publicly that he has assurances from both Kraft and Jerrah that the votes are there from the Ownership group.
We'll wind up doing this again, but I think we can categorize a few owners pretty easily:
Pro
York - 9ers - loses a market competitor
Kroenke - Rams - removes risk of more popular Raiders in LA
Spanos- Chargers- Friends with Davis, allows him more time to work things out in San Diego / LA
Jones - Cowboys - For it publicly
Kraft - Pats - not going against his friends Wynn and Adelson
Brown - Bengals - I am assuming he will vote for the smaller market based on his anti LA vote last year
Against
Bowlens - Broncos - benefit from a weak Raiders franchise, lose Utah fans with team in Vegas
Bidwell- Cards - closest to empty Vegas market now
In more measurable arenas, Steve Wynn said publicly that he has assurances from both Kraft and Jerrah that the votes are there from the Ownership group.
We'll wind up doing this again, but I think we can categorize a few owners pretty easily:
Pro
York - 9ers - loses a market competitor
Kroenke - Rams - removes risk of more popular Raiders in LA
Spanos- Chargers- Friends with Davis, allows him more time to work things out in San Diego / LA
Jones - Cowboys - For it publicly
Kraft - Pats - not going against his friends Wynn and Adelson
Brown - Bengals - I am assuming he will vote for the smaller market based on his anti LA vote last year
Against
Bowlens - Broncos - benefit from a weak Raiders franchise, lose Utah fans with team in Vegas
Bidwell- Cards - closest to empty Vegas market now