IMO, he probably doesn't give a shit what you think. Nor should he.Not at all. Or that a multimillionaire would be either. But this is not about whether he goes R or D. Its about two expressions of his beliefs that, IMO, are quite offensive.
IMO, he probably doesn't give a shit what you think. Nor should he.Not at all. Or that a multimillionaire would be either. But this is not about whether he goes R or D. Its about two expressions of his beliefs that, IMO, are quite offensive.
To me there's a MASSIVE difference between "Obama supporters want an overly-large safety net" and "Obama supporters don't have jobs."Yeah, both of these seem like pretty mainstream conservative republican views: staunch second amendment/anti-gun control, and fiscally conservative, anti-safety net. Positions I don't agree with , but I think it's a big reach to label either racist or hate speech. Dumb use of the Hitler meme, which has been largely de-bunked, to be sure. Beyond that, this feels like it's mostly a nothingburger, forgotten by the weekend.
I agree. As Francona once said, once you start thinking with the fans, you end up sitting with them.IMO, he probably doesn't give a shit what you think. Nor should he.
Great. Some people crudely disparage members of the other party. Sometimes even candidates themselves (e.g., "deplorables").To me there's a MASSIVE difference between "Obama supporters want an overly-large safety net" and "Obama supporters don't have jobs."
I don't think it's as massive as you do, but fair enough. Even revising it to fiscally conservative, anti-welfare, or some such wording, still doesn't, IMO, on its face, make it racist or hate speech. Not without more context and detail about the person expressing it. It's a fairly mainstream, if, IMO, wrong-headed, conservative republican sentiment. We haven't as yet seen evidence of JDM holding racist views. If something further is revealed, in what will now undoubtedly be a deep dive into his social media history, obviously that would change my view considerably. If this is all there is, I think it's largely a non-story.To me there's a MASSIVE difference between "Obama supporters want an overly-large safety net" and "Obama supporters don't have jobs."
yup..I didn't take that as racist....but we are in a day where some people look to find racism anywhere they canEquating unemployment with being African American is also racist, isn’t it? Thankfully, minority unemployment is also near all time lows.
The meme doesn’t have any racial tinge to it at all. Dems favor a somewhat larger safety net than republicans. Thus, people dependent on the safety net vote Dem. Duh.
Yet, the posters here are reading race into it.
Only a dog can hear a dog whistle.
I tend to agree. This makes him a douchebag more than anything else for me. Remember Mike Timlin's "footprint of the American chicken" locker sticker?I don't think it's as massive as you do, but fair enough. Even revising it to fiscally conservative, anti-welfare, or some such wording, still doesn't, IMO, on its face, make it racist or hate speech. Not without more context and detail about the person expressing it. It's a fairly mainstream, if, IMO, wrong-headed, conservative republican sentiment. We haven't as yet seen evidence of JDM holding racist views. If something further is revealed, in what will now undoubtedly be a deep dive into his social media history, obviously that would change my view considerably. If this is all there is, I think it's largely a non-story.
Good God.This is "news" worthy? Is there a more despised profession in the world than the media?
Haven't you heard? Everything IS racist, everything IS offensive, and the line between being a good person and a shithead is that exact same line between the two major political parties.yup..I didn't take that as racist....but we are in a day where some people look to find racism anywhere they can
Hey, at least no one posted any math for anyone to get mad at.Holy shit a lot of you are fucking exhausting.
JD Martinez is a douchebag because he posted a meme six years ago you don't particularly like when you were absolutely fine with him beforehand. That, right there, entirely changing your opinion on someone over a slight difference in political opinion (not fact, I repeat, opinion) is the sign of a real douche.
van jones maybeI mean curt schilling is the biggest moron this side of Alex jones. He got us a ring in 2004. He is a Red Sox legend. You can be an awful person and be a Red Sox legend. There are other examples
You are the one making extreme comments. A number of us expressed regret over a comment that seems intolerant and not at all thoughtful and that is unfortunate given that he is a member of a team some members of which might find those remarks hurtful. I can't reread the whole thread now, because I have to make supper and watch JDM gets some rbis, but I do think you are overreacting to most of the reactions.Haven't you heard? Everything IS racist, everything IS offensive, and the line between being a good person and a shithead is that exact same line between the two major political parties.
Holy shit a lot of you are fucking exhausting.
JD Martinez is a douchebag because he posted a meme six years ago you don't particularly like when you were absolutely fine with him beforehand. That, right there, entirely changing your opinion on someone over a slight difference in political opinion (not fact, I repeat, opinion) is the sign of a real douche.
Never, ever did I say being a Republican equals being a shithead. I'd be willing to be no one on the site in any forum has ever said that in any forum.Haven't you heard? Everything IS racist, everything IS offensive, and the line between being a good person and a shithead is that exact same line between the two major political parties.
Holy shit a lot of you are fucking exhausting.
If this subject makes you angry, such that you can’t post without ripping into other members like this, then I’d strongly suggest that you sit this one out.Holy shit a lot of you are fucking exhausting.
This is pretty obtuse. Your expressed position right here is that evincing even a baseline cultural literacy on these issues means that the person noticing the racism is thereby exposed as "the real racist." Instead, I gather, we're supposed to approach each new utterance as if it were sui generis, as if it could not allude to any other language or culture, as if there were no history. To do otherwise would be to read race into it, and we wouldn't want that.Equating unemployment with being African American is also racist, isn’t it? Thankfully, minority unemployment is also near all time lows.
The meme doesn’t have any racial tinge to it at all. Dems favor a somewhat larger safety net than republicans. Thus, people dependent on the safety net vote Dem. Duh.
Yet, the posters here are reading race into it.
Only a dog can hear a dog whistle.
Since the thread has been keerpluunked, I figured I would take this opportunity to address the issue of why I split this out of the initial thread it was in and why us Dopes have continued to bang out the mantra "Start New Threads" for seemingly forever. Canderson, please do not take this as a rebuke strictly against you as I am only utilizing your comments above as a jumping off point.I never intended to create a thread because I didn't believe this is a big story. I was merely posting because I was (and am) curious if there will be any MLB repercussions or team acknowledgement and felt we should know what is being reported in a newspaper about our players, regardless of the news source or its leanings.