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Discussion in 'General Sports' started by cshea, Jul 16, 2018.
Same with McIlroy. Blown bunny on 12 and then the crappy wedge on 18 finished him.
This guy, he gets it.
"What happened, Tiger"
"Uh, I made a few bad shots."
What do they think these guys are gonna say?
Tiger was going for it. We all loved the fairway bunker shot, but if that hits the lip, we’d be pointing to that shot as the one that did him in. The flop shot was a foot short. If he pulls it off, its double hell yeah from us. He didn’t execute a few shots, but all in all he was aggressive and trying to go low.
The insipid questions really incentivize players to learn how to be robots.
I'm with you here. He doesn't play to hope for a playoff. he plays to fucking win. Period. I loved the flop shot.
And that is it
Damn, congratulations to Molinari. Well deserved.
Ballgame. Can't believe this didn't end in a playoff.
They've been doing everything possible to avoid broadcasting what's happening on the course today, so maybe just hoping for a couple empty spots platitudes to pass the time.
I can't fault him that much for that flop shot. At the time, you had to think he had to keep going low. He was hot at the time and probably had the confidence to pull off that shot. I keep coming back to the point that if he made the bogey putt and kept himself at -6 maybe he rights the ship at 12. We'll never know.
Molinari will be the man. I have turned my dislike around because of FL4WL3SS lobbying effort.
The flop shot wasn't the issue, missing the fairway with an iron off the tee did him in.
Maybe Schuaffle hops one in from the fairway. Lombard yesterday, Rose was this close today...maybe. It could happen.
Molinari deserves this, he's been a very underrated player. Mostly because he came up through the European tour and only recently came to the US. It was only a matter of time until he won a major.
Who is the other Molinari brother...Eduardo? Where'd he go? When they were both good, I used to think of them in my head as Mario and Luigi. That's pretty messed up on my part.
That's exactly right. We never even get to the flop shot if he doesn't miss the fairway with a 3 iron, and then have the rough grab his club head resulting in his next shot shooting into the gallery and ending up on the short side.
Then he compounded that double by missing the fairway on the very next hole with another 3 iron. Prior to those two holes, I don't think he had missed a fairway all day (if he did, he was in the "first cut" which isn't really rough there anyway).
Agreed. And its no accident the guy that made the fewest mistakes the last two days is going to win. Still a huge day for Tiger and a huge day for golf. Congrats to Molinari, he’s been playing great and definitely earned this one.
Hop it in X man.
It's spelled Edoardo or something weird. Pretty sure he's still playing on the European Tour. Interesting guy. SoSHers would love him. He's like the Bill James of professional golfers when it comes to stats.
I would have loved Sands to ask Tiger: "It seems those two bad holes came right after you took the lead, were you aware of where you were on the leaderboard and do you think it had any impact on how you played those holes?"
I really think Tiger tightened up there.
Oh man, that was on the exact line.
The Chappell birdie apparently bumped Tiger to 51. No Firestone.
He could still play if someone drops out, which usually happens.
Great final round until the last hour or so where it really fizzled out, but still a fantastic tournament to watch. NBC should be ashamed with their coverage today, though.
That caricature/rendition of Molinari was a bit over the top Italian looking.
Speaking of, where is Molinari.
Alright I'm starting to like Molinari a little more. Just won his first major and he's casually sitting on the couch shooting the shit with the low am.
Wonderful acceptance speech by Molinari. I have a new top 2 -3 favorite.
Royal Portrush looks incredible.
Like New Zealand.
Last one there was 1951.
This was an incredible four days of golf and I'm actually depressed it is over. NBC's coverage was traumatic today, but the coverage on Thursday, Friday, and Saturday was solid.
Tiger gets to Firestone. He said that was one of his goals at the beginning of the year.
And some random luck once he got there. Molinari was 15 feet away in the same rough, got lucky with the lie and made par. But Molinari didn’t do it twice. Those two 3 irons were the difference.
Way overselling this guy. Prior to this season he had four combined professional wins on any tour, and only one in the last five years. At 35, he was a pretty classic journeyman.
I said it earlier, but Molinari was like 7/15 hitting fairways today, and finished something like 74th out of 79 golfers for the tournament in driving accuracy. Somehow, he never seemed to find himself in any real trouble, no bad lies, no bad bounces, etc. Every time he needed a bounce, he got one, and of course, he made every 6 foot putt and in that he looked at. Everything just went right for him this week for him to get this victory.
Having had him on my Fantasy team for a number of years, I've probably paid closer attention to him than just about anybody in the US, and this is a shocking victory. Not a surprising one, a shocking one. His entire run the last couple months is shocking. This guy doesn't win tournaments. He'll find his way into a top 10 here and there, but winning and finishing in the top 3, nope. The golf Gods are smiling on him right now, and he has taken full advantage. I expect him to disappear back into obscurity in short order.
He's always been a great ball striker but a relatively shitty putter. During this run, and clearly this tournament, he's been putting like a maniac.
I think outside the legends or top all time, we probably discount how much your first paragraph could apply to the majority of the players. Looking at leaderboards doesn’t really tell us how many of those bounces - good or bad - the next tier down player gets and then it’s kind of crap shoot, imo. Are you putting hot, getting kicks, staying out of trouble? You can win. These guys are all so good that it’s a matter of inches unless you’re dominant. He deserved to win this tournament and a half dozen other guys did too. There’s probably many more we didn’t get coverage on that played just as well and hit the wrong bump or missed a spot by a foot and it cost them. Especially on a course like this it’s mitigating disaster/penalty. He played remarkably and didn’t fold. Good for him.
I picked Molinari in the second round of our fantasy league this year. Seemed like a bit of a reach and I was regretting it until the last month or so when I suddenly started feeling like a genius. But last year something really clicked for him. This is not really out of nowhere. He had top 10's in a very high percentage of his PGA starts and was very highly ranked in GIR and par-4 scoring, which are supposedly good indicators for success. Like others have said, once the putting started coming together, he just became lights out.
Frankie’s last 2 months have been insane. MC’d at the Players then 1,2,T25,1,T2,1. Wins include a major and the BMW PGA. As good a heater as one can go on.
two good months of golf = Player of the Year
He did mention his sports pyschologist has helped him a lot. Not sure if he recently started using one, or if it finally clicked, but it's the kind of thing that make things click.
That is really some kind of run. Out of nowhere is right but something has clicked. You don't run off those finishes with only lucky bounces.
That said, yesterday he really did get every single bounce. It was insane, it was just his day. Maybe he reached out to the universe and asked for the bounces. And they appeared.
I don't agree. Since 2009, he's been ranked top 50 in the world by years end in all but 2 years where he was 55 and 66 respectively in 2014 and 2015. He was ranked as high as 15th in 2010 and just got to 6th with his latest win. It's really impressive to be ranked so high for so long with so few wins. He's Italy's Matt Kuchar.
He's been way more than a journeyman. He's a great player that had issues with putting and finishing off wins. It's pretty awesome to see a guy like him finally starting to put it all together.
I wonder how much being paired with Tiger helped him. I'm sure he could feel the crowds, etc. pulling for Tiger and he was able to just plug along until he had his shot to score (14) and he capitalized. If he had been with someone else, he might not have gone unnoticed. Heck, it was in this very thread after 8 or 9 holes where someone mentioned "has he even made anything but par yet today?"
Heck, Tiger even teed off first on every hole up to 12. I'm sure the buzz around the tee box wore off considerably after Tiger's shot on every hole
Sure, but a guy who only has four wins on the Euro Tour, generally floats around 50th in the world rankings, and had only gotten “as high as 15th” for a couple of months years ago by age 35 is not someone about whom I’d say it was only a matter of time before he won a major. He was full time on the Euro Tour for a decade and only finished Top 10 in the Order of Merit once.
If Vegas was giving odds a year ago about whether Molinari would ever win a major, they’d have been astronomical. After last year’s Open, he was 34, had played in 32 majors, and had only two top 10s (a 9th and a 10th, each years ago), and had missed 10 cuts, including his last two. He only had two top-20 finishes in his last 28 majors.
Isn't Matt Kuchar the textbook definition of "journeyman"?
Molinari and Tiger have played 2 singles matches in the Ryder Cup. I don’t think Molinari was unnoticed as much as he was just as experienced and therefor as prepared as anyone could be for all that goes into playing with Tiger in a pressure packed situation.
Highest ratings for a Sunday at the Open Championship since 2000.
Ratings were up a mere 38% from last year. The Tiger Effect is real and it's spectacular.
Chamblee qualified for the Senior Open
I'd add that he's similar to Stewart Cink, one major, some tournament success, some national team success. But a very recognizable player.