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Spain: Who needs a coach?

Discussion in '2018 World Cup' started by bosox4283, Jun 13, 2018.

  1. bosox4283

    bosox4283 Member SoSH Member

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    Spain has decided to make things complicated for themselves. The coach, Julen Lopetegui, was named the new Real Madrid manager just yesterday. The rumor is that the players wanted to keep Lopetegui through the World Cup without making changes, but the Spanish Federation President was so pissed that he decided to ignore the players' supposed interest in working with Lopetegui and fire Lopetegui.

    So, a few days before the action, the team is embroiled in conflict and is about to start training under a new coach, Hierro. Hierro was a Real Madrid player and has only coached one year, a mediocre campaign at Real Oviedo, a storied team in the second division.

    Que desastre!
     
  2. PedroSpecialK

    PedroSpecialK Comes at you like a tornado of hair and the NHL sa Silver Supporter SoSH Member

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    Now all Iran need is for Ronaldo to get hurt in training and Benatia to come down with avian flu, and we may have a fighting chance of getting through
     
  3. slamminsammya

    slamminsammya Member SoSH Member

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    Is it such a huge disruption? Will the new manager just stick with the tactical system that was already in place? Does the Spain squad more or less pick itself? Expertise appreciated.
     
  4. Vinho Tinto

    Vinho Tinto Member SoSH Member

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    It’s a short tournament, so the influence coaching can have is muted, but I think Italy recently proved that a team managing itself has its flaws.
     
  5. Dummy Hoy

    Dummy Hoy Angry Pissbum SoSH Member

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    Holy Shit. I didn't catch this at all...I'm fascinated to see how this affects things, and while that's up in the air, I'd certainly lower my odds of Spain winning the trophy.
     
  6. Ale Xander

    Ale Xander Member SoSH Member

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    I don't get this at all. Rubiales never played for a team longer than 5 years, none of them Barca. Why would he care if Lope took a job at RM?
    Why do this now? Why not wait a month even if it matters to you.
     
  7. Spacemans Bong

    Spacemans Bong chapeau rose SoSH Member

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    On the other hand, France got to the final in 2006 by basically ignoring Domenech.
     
  8. Spacemans Bong

    Spacemans Bong chapeau rose SoSH Member

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    He's under contract, negotiated a job that would require him to break his contract behind his employer's back and didn't even tell them until 10 minutes before Madrid was to make the announcement (and even then, only did it because a journalist got wind of the news and was about to tweet it out). Add to it a fairly sizable conflict of interest. Does he play Lucas Vazquez more because he wants to keep him happy for next year?

    I think all of those things are fixable, except maybe the behind the back thing, but I don't think it's as crazy and stupid as people believe.
     
  9. Vinho Tinto

    Vinho Tinto Member SoSH Member

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    Not informing the FA that his agent and Real were talking is a fireable offense. Throw in the politics between Real and Barca, this was unlikely to have a good ending.
     
  10. bosox4283

    bosox4283 Member SoSH Member

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    The Spanish players have been playing together long enough to have rhythm and to understand their style. The question, I think, is how Hierro manages the line-up and whether he can do it in a way that does not throw off chemistry.

    If I were a betting man, I'd bet that this team would be the one for Hierro to use:

    De Gea
    Carvajal-Pique-Ramos-Alba
    Silva-Busquets-Iniesta
    Isco-Costa-Asensio

    But there are some questions, and it's hard to know if Hierro will do what Lopetegui would have done. For me, Hierro needs to quickly reach a decision about following Lopetegui's plan or to go with his own gut.

    1. How to balance the striker role? Does Spain play with two strikers? One striker? Go with a false-9 scenario?

    2. How does Hierro view the forwards and decides who plays between Costa, Aspas, and Rodrigo?

    3. What is the composition of the midfield? Primarily, how does the coach utilize Saul, Koke, Thiago, and Lucas Vazquez?
     
  11. Zososoxfan

    Zososoxfan Member SoSH Member

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    I think your proposed lineup has a real age/workrate issue in MF. Yes, Spain will never lose the ball, but Silva and Iniesta are both slight and over 30. I'd be shocked if Saul and Koke are both not in the lineup.
     
  12. Titans Bastard

    Titans Bastard has sunil gulati in his sights Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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  13. Zososoxfan

    Zososoxfan Member SoSH Member

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    Pique dropping Michigan bball as a source of inspiration. My sports fan life is complete.
     
  14. coremiller

    coremiller Member SoSH Member

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    To be fair, Zidane was essentially coaching that team, and as we've subsequently learned, Zidane is a pretty good manager.
     
  15. Vinho Tinto

    Vinho Tinto Member SoSH Member

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    And France proceeded to shit their pants without him at Euro 2008 and South Africa 2010.
     
  16. Merkle's Boner

    Merkle's Boner Well-Known Member Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    A Spain man will be coaching Spain!
     

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