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SP Jalen Beeks

Discussion in 'The Adopt a Prospect Forum' started by The Allented Mr Ripley, May 15, 2017.

  1. The Allented Mr Ripley

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    DOB: July 10, 1993
    Bats/Throws: L/L
    Ht: 5' 11" Wt: 195
    Draft: Round 12 (2014)
    School: Arkansas

    Beeks has started the year at Portland on a tear, yielding no ER in 5 of his 6 starts. He's currently 5-1 with a 1.38 ERA, and more impressively, he has 41Ks in 32.2 IP.

    I saw one of his starts at Hadlock, he throws consistently in the low 90s. His offspeed stuff seemed to primarily be a slider in the mid-to-high 80s and a changeup that was a little slower. Didn't see many (if any) curves.

    Given the questionable state of starting pitching in Boston, I wonder if Beeks will end up getting a look sometime in the mid-to-late summer.
     
  2. bosox79

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    He's probably close to a promotion since he made a handful of starts in Portland last year as well. His strikeout rate has increased considerably this year but his walk rate has too. He's walking almost a batter every 2 innings. He has 16 walks in those 32.2ip. That has to improve.
     
  3. The Allented Mr Ripley

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    Beeks pitched well but got a no-decision in the Sea Dogs' loss this afternoon:

     
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    Beeks had a rough outing on 5/24 vs. NH (3 IP, 4H, 3 ER, 4BB, 3K), but rebounded nicely yesterday at Reading (7 IP, 7H, 2 ER, 1 BB, 7K). He got no-decisions for both games, so his record still stands at 5-1. Season ERA is 2.19 in 49.1 IP, 58K, 22BB, 1.16 WHIP.
     
  5. The Allented Mr Ripley

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    Beeks was promoted to Pawtucket on Saturday and pitched his first AAA start in Durham yesterday, it didn't go so well: 6 IP, 6H, 4 ER, 3BB, 3 K. There was a 24-minute rain delay between the second and third innings, after which Beeks gave up 3 runs in the bottom of the third.
     
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    Beeks rebounded from his rough PawSox debut to post a win at home vs. Buffalo on Friday: 6 IP, 4H, 1 ER, 1BB, 8K.
     
  7. The Allented Mr Ripley

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    Beeks picked up a win last Thursday at Syracuse. 6.2 IP, 2 ER, 1BB, 4K.

    He's now 2-1 with a 3.38 ERA and 15K/5BB in 18.2 IP since being promoted to Pawtucket.
     
  8. The Allented Mr Ripley

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    Jalen took the loss last night at home against Lehigh Valley, but it wasn't a bad outing:

    He gave up 3 earned runs on 4 hits and 3 walks. He's averaging a hair under a strikeout per inning in AAA (24 in 25 IP), and his WHIP is 1.08. I wouldn't be shocked to see him get a spot start with the Sox sometime this year.
     
  9. bosox79

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    If you omit his first start in AAA, his last 3 starts he's pitched 19 innings with 21k/5bb, and a 2.84 era. Hitters are slashing .186/.250/.271 on a .250 BAbip. Looks like he's been sitting at 93-94 in the first couple innings before losing some stuff off his fastball. Last year he was around 91-92. After the first few innings, his fastball drops in the 89-92 range. That's probably why most people have him projected as a bullpen arm. His fastball has some deception on it though.
     
  10. bosox79

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    He is now at 43.2ip in AAA, 2.89era, 34h, 14er, 15bb/47k. Hitters slashing .210/.283/.309 on a .281 BAbip.

    Season totals 93.0ip, 69h, 26er, 5 HRA, 105k/37bb, .204/.291/.305, .278 BAbip.

    K Rate and BB rate by year
    2015 16.2% K 4.5% BB
    2016 19.1% K 9.0% BB
    2017 27.4% K 9.7% BB

    That's interesting progression. I wonder if he made a conscious effort to sacrifice some control for some strikeouts.
     
  11. The Allented Mr Ripley

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    Beeks continues to impress, picking up another win with a strong start last night:

     
  12. Sox Puppet

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    Apart from being an honorary Reggie Cleveland All-Star already, what do folks think is his long-term upside in the Sox rotation? I haven't seen him pitch personally, but the results would indicate he should be solidly in the mix for the Brian Johnson/Hector Velasquez/Doug Fister role.
     
  13. Detts

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    He is pretty much cementing himself to be a September promotion and going into the bullpen. Spring training will have a lot to do with where he ends up on the roster.
     
  14. Byrdbrain

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    I'm not sure he'll come up this year. He was drafted in 2014 so he doesn't need to be added to the 40 man until after next year. I'm not sure the potential upgrade he represents over Velazquez is worth losing two years of control.
    I assume he'll be invited to Spring Training next year and then maybe he'll get a shot.

    As a note I am almost always wrong about this stuff so he is likely a lock to come up in September.

    Edit: I may even be wrong about when he needs to be added. It is 4 seasons after he signed his contract so he may need to be added after this season.
     
  15. Savin Hillbilly

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    Yeah, according to SoxProspects he's Rule 5 eligible this winter, and given his performance as a 24-year-old in Pawtucket it seems like a pretty good bet he could be claimed if not added. They'll need to either add him to the 40-man or trade him by December, so they might as well add him sometime in the stretch run if the need is there.
     
  16. The Allented Mr Ripley

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    Beeks followed up his worst start of the year on 8/2 (6 IP, 5 ER, 10 H) with a better performance on Tues, picking up a win at home against Charlotte: 6 IP, 1 ER, 3 H, 1BB, 6K.

    He's 5-4 at AAA, 3.18 ERA, 1.16 WHIP, .227 BAA, 70K/21BB in 68 IP.
     
  17. Detts

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    I would rather have Beeks over Brentz in September.
     
  18. The Allented Mr Ripley

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    Beeks has thrown well in his last two starts: a no-decision on 8/13 vs. Columbus at home (6 IP, 2H, 1 ER, 6K/2BB) and a win on 8/18 vs. Columbus on the road (7 IP, 7H, 2 ER, 5K/1BB).

    His 2017 stats for the entire year (Portland and Pawtucket) and just at AAA:

    Year: 11-5, 2.69 ERA, 130.1 IP, 1.14 WHIP, .213 BAA, 139K/46BB
    AAA: 6-4, 3.00 ERA, 81 IP, 1.12 WHIP, .221 BAA, 81K/24BB

    It's interesting to note that he walked 22 batters in 49.1 innings at Portland, and has walked 24 batters in 81 innings at Pawtucket.
     
    #18 The Allented Mr Ripley, Aug 21, 2017
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    Beeks finished up the season with 3 straight subpar starts, giving up 14 ER in 14.2 IP, losing all 3 decisions. 19 hits yielded in that span, with 16K/9BB. A downer way to end what was otherwise a positive year.
     
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    Beeks is off to a hot start in Pawtucket: In four starts he's 2-1, 1.37 ERA, 0.97 WHIP, .178 BAA, 37 Ks in 19.2 IP. In his last two starts he struck out 10 batters in 6 IP and 11 batters in 5.2 IP.
     
  21. The Allented Mr Ripley

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    Beeks keeps cruising, although he hasn't picked up any wins to show for it. In his last two starts he's pitched 6.2 and 5 innings respectively, giving up 9 hits & 2 walks combined for 3 ER total with 15 strikeouts. Got a no-decision in one start, a loss in the other.

    Season totals (6 starts): 2-2, 1.72 ERA, 0.96 WHIP, .191 BAA, 52Ks in 31.1 IP.

    If the Sox didn't have a logjam of "spot start" pitchers without options (Johnson, Wright), Beeks would likely be the next guy to step in.
     
    #21 The Allented Mr Ripley, May 10, 2018
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  22. JimD

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    Bummed that he missed pitching in Syracuse by one day.
     
  23. ehaz

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    Fangraphs includes Jalen Beeks in the Fringe Five

    I don't quite get the last bit of analysis though. Sure, Jalen Beeks has the 61st ranked swinging-strike rate at 14.1%, but in comparison, Chris Sale's career SwSt% in the Majors is 12.6%. He's also ahead of #RealPitchingProspects like Justus Sheffield, Alex Faedo, Stephen Gonsalves, etc. Finally, I'm pretty sure some of the strikeouts from the GIF are from his new cutter, not the 4-seam.

    Look, I know AAA dominance does not equal MLB success, but if Beeks continues to perform like this in AAA with "fringe-average stuff" it's anybody's guess. He could be a nobody, a pen arm, or lefty Kyle Hendricks.
     
  24. The Allented Mr Ripley

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    Beeks pitched a great game yesterday at Norfolk, giving up one run in 7 innings with 7 K's for the win.

    He had been mediocre in his three starts prior to last night; not atrocious, but nothing approaching his earlier starts, although he kept up his high K rate (21Ks in 18 innings over the three starts).

    Season totals so far (10 starts): 3-3, 2.56 ERA, 0.98 WHIP, .197 BAA, 80Ks in 56.1 IP.
     
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