Sons of Peter McNeeley- Boxing Thread

ElUno20

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Also, I can't be the only one tired of Adonis and pulling for fonfara to become....the lineal lhw champ
 

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Another farce to add to the list of judging controversies - according to promoter Barry Hearn, one Judge "Mixed up the boxers" on his scorecard.

I watched the fight and Ryan Burnett beat Lee Haskins to a pulp, winning pretty much every round and knocking him down twice in an IBF World Bantamweight title fight on Saturday in Belfast - two Judges had it 119-107 to Burnett, but the 3rd, American Clark Sammartino, inexplicably had it 118-108 to Haskins, leaving Hearn with the only reasoning, that the Judge had got the wrong boxers.

The BBBC have said they won't have Sammartino back in this Country and have raise their "dissatisfaction" with the IBF.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/40237875
 

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Have they released his score card? I'd love to see how he scored the non-knockdown rounds
 

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I remember Clark Sammartino being a judge in the first Vinny Paz/Greg Haugen fight that happened at The Dunk 30 years ago this month. Sammartino must be about 80 these days. He has been around forever. He probably messed up the names and could point to the guy who won the fight by a mile.
 

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I'm seriously considering jumping a flight to Vegas Saturday morning to watch Kovalev annihilate Ward. How hard are tix at this point?
 

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Dude, you're more than good. I'd even wait until boarding the plane to StubHub it. It's not really a hot ticket. Probably under 200 you could be sitting pretty. If you don't mind a wide view, probably even under 50.

Which ties into this madness, Kovalev has 0 guaranteed $. It's all tied to ticket sales and ppv
 

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ElUno20

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Ward talking during the stare down struck me as odd for some reason. In a not good, nervous way
 

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Kovalev was looking for a way out for the 3 rounds and Ward showed that motherfer the door
 

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Man what a fucking legendary performance from Ward. He took his soul with those body shots.
 

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He stopped the fight after 3 clear low blows. That was stupid to me. Doesn't take anything away from Ward.
I stopped watching after they showed the replays which were inconclusive. Unless they showed a different angle, I didn't see anything clear.

When he stepped in, I was expecting a standing eight. I didn't think Kovalev had stopped defending to a point that deserved a stoppage.
 

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My LOL boxing comment got deleted? That Rigondeaux fight was one of the most ridiculous things I've ever seen. Is one of the mods Vic Drakulich's mother?
 

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I stopped watching after they showed the replays which were inconclusive. Unless they showed a different angle, I didn't see anything clear.

When he stepped in, I was expecting a standing eight. I didn't think Kovalev had stopped defending to a point that deserved a stoppage.
This is where I'm at, too. Ward clearly won the round, and was likely on his way to winning the fight. I thought the last shots were low blows, but hey, judgment call. But I don't see any reason to stop the fight there without at minimum a standing eight,
 

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This is where I'm at, too. Ward clearly won the round, and was likely on his way to winning the fight. I thought the last shots were low blows, but hey, judgment call. But I don't see any reason to stop the fight there without at minimum a standing eight,

Might be a no standing 8 fight. I don't know? I thought ref should have stepped in and given Ward a warning.
 

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I stopped watching after they showed the replays which were inconclusive. Unless they showed a different angle, I didn't see anything clear.

When he stepped in, I was expecting a standing eight. I didn't think Kovalev had stopped defending to a point that deserved a stoppage.
No standing eight count per the rules of the bout. IMO, if no ropes were present, Kovalev probably goes down on his ass, so a KD and a count probably would have been the right call anyway.

Edit: Pretty clear replay of the last punch here:

 
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I'll give one or two of those as low but let's establish a few things. "Low" is subjective and is based on the ref/that fight. It was clear from early on that borderline shots weren't going to be called low. Adjust. It's a fight not a card game. Throw your own to make your point and counter it.

Second, Kovalev was done from about the 5th round. That's when he started emptying the kitchen sink and trying to knock Ward out himself because he knew he was done.

Also, Kovalev didn't protest the stoppage at all. I've seen a ton of fights with iffy stoppages where guys lose their minds in worse shape than he was in. He quit. Period. Ward took his soul, probably his career and definitely his balls.

And I know Roy Jones is mocked a lot but he sees sht Lamps and Max ignore. He called Kovalev being done from probably the 3rd round. And lamps, go ask Dawson if Ward is a finisher in big fights.
 

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LOL, adjust to low blows. How clear was it? He gave two warnings, and Ward was throwing low blows in the first fight, too. Why should Kovalev have to adjust to illegal punches without complaint?

Also, IMO the argument that he didn't protest the stoppage is nonsense. He didn't know immediately what was going on, and you're basically calling him a liar for saying he didn't think the fight shouldn't have been stopped. He gets the benefit of the doubt from me.

As for Roy Jones Jr., I can't say. I watched the SkySports feed, where the announcers thought Kovalev was winning decisively, and thought the blows were clearly low.
 

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LOL, adjust to low blows. How clear was it? He gave two warnings, and Ward was throwing low blows in the first fight, too. Why should Kovalev have to adjust to illegal punches without complaint?

Also, IMO the argument that he didn't protest the stoppage is nonsense. He didn't know immediately what was going on, and you're basically calling him a liar for saying he didn't think the fight shouldn't have been stopped. He gets the benefit of the doubt from me.

As for Roy Jones Jr., I can't say. I watched the SkySports feed, where the announcers thought Kovalev was winning decisively, and thought the blows were clearly low.

Dude when you feel you're getting hit low....you hit low right back. That happens like every fight. You don't whine like a bitch. You get just as dirty.

And yeah I am calling Kovalev a liar. The wave off from the ref was clear as day and he's a vet. He knows that wave means the fight is being stopped and he had no beefs about it until he picked his ego off the floor for the post fight interview.

You don't campaign for 2 months that you are going to end a guy's career and go out that meekly.
 

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Dude when you feel you're getting hit low....you hit low right back. That happens like every fight. You don't whine like a bitch. You get just as dirty.
And so when you're hurt and against the ropes and the guy starts pounding you in the nuts, it's all in the game, yo?
 

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And so when you're hurt and against the ropes and the guy starts pounding you in the nuts, it's all in the game, yo?
The last shot was on the belt. The commission will tell duva and kovalev the exact same thing when they appeal.

Since we are trying to interpret what happened or should have as opposed to what actually happened (Kovalev got knocked out). For me, he quit. The fight was stopped and he did not protest. He quit long before the "low blows". Prior to the 8th round, I counted at least 3 times he was looking for excuses and whining to the ref. He even had a moment where he turned his back to Ward. For a killer like Kovalev, that was a huge red flag.

We'll have to agree to disagree on the low blows. For me, he was out on his feet for the last minute of the fight add in the fact that he quit and I'm good. He may talk it but he wants no part of a 3rd fight
 

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That was some bullshit, but I"m again shocked by Kovalev's lack of conditioning. Cost him both fights.
 

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You could have caught a plane and gotten in for free. They were giving away tickets before the fight to fill the empty seats
 

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You could have caught a plane and gotten in for free. They were giving away tickets before the fight to fill the empty seats
I had a filing my team f'ed up and was at the office till 6 am Friday night, otherwise we would've been there. Just glad I knew not to book the flight beforehand.
 

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Anyone check out counterpunch on Netflix?

Just finished it. Highly recommend it. Follows three fighters, over 2 years, at three different levels in the sport.
 
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Anybody else tuning into the Pacquiao fight tonight? Live on ESPN. Sugar Shane's kid, Shane Mosley Jr. is about to fight on the undercard.
 

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A pretty good fight by both fighters, but Mosley didn't really impress me. Toussaint ends up beating him in a split decision, Mosley's 2nd loss. Toussaint goes to 11-0 with 8 ko's. The announcers agreed with the decision, both had it 77-75 Toussaint, and the scores were 77-75 Mosley, 77-76 Toussaint, 77-76 Toussaint on the Judge's cards.

If tonight was any indication, I don't think we'll be hearing much on the boxing scene from young Mosley any time soon.
 

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These rounds seem so short. I'm enjoying the hell out of this. Hope Horn has a gas tank.