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September 2017 Game Thread

Discussion in 'MLB Discussion' started by E5 Yaz, Sep 2, 2017.

  1. Spacemans Bong

    Spacemans Bong chapeau rose SoSH Member

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    Gigantes win 8-6.
     
  2. Lose Remerswaal

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    And they play each other again tonight
     
  3. Sam Ray Not

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    Lol, cappuccino with the Giants -- how Bay Area is that!

    Joe Scarborough just asked Mike Barnicle which was a bigger story, the Tribe winning 19 straight or the Dodgers -- SI's "Best Team Ever?" -- losing 16 of 17. His answer: the Dodgers.
     
  4. Spacemans Bong

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    It's a shame Arizona's cooled off a little bit. For a day or two, it was looking like a collapse to beat the 1951 Dodgers was on the cards.

    Larry Baer, CEO of the Giants, was on the radio* and said he was advocating a doubleheader tomorrow or Wednesday, but the Dodgers didn't want to do that or give up an off day. So with 12 hours of clear skies forecast, they played.


    * He called a batter, as he was one of the UC Berkeley students hired by Charlie Finley to call games back in the 70s and early 80s when Finley put the A's on UC Berkeley student radio rather than hash out a radio deal with a legit station. He lasted a month.
     
  5. Sam Ray Not

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    The Nats are within 3.5 games, so losing the NL top seed is still a distinct possibility. Of course, the the stakes are not what they were in 1951, since the Dodgers make the playoffs either way (and it might actually be preferable to face the Cubs or Cards in the first round than the DBacks).

    On the other hand, the 1951 Dodgers' so-called "collapse" was not actually that pronounced: they were 70-36 with a 13 game lead on August 11, and closed the season 27-24. Pretty far cry from 1-16. That finish was more about the Giants closing 39-8 (and of course the Thompson HR).
     
  6. Spacemans Bong

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    Yeah, the Giants got red hot to end the season. Even away from home, when their sign stealing strategy wasn't in effect. They won sixteen in a row going into September, and it took a Brooklyn comeback in the last game to even get it to a playoff.

    I have the radio broadcast of the third playoff game if anybody wants it. The call is almost as good as Russ Hodges's for pure shit being lost.
     
  7. B H Kim

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    [Tweet: Love this stat. On Aug. 25 #Nats magic number to clinch their division was 24, #Dodgers 14. Nats clinched Sunday. LA's magic number is...10.]
     
  8. Poulsonator

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    That is one of the most astonishing baseball stats I've ever seen. It's amazing how every year we get something that's just completely bonkers and has either never been done before, or it's been done once like 100 years ago.
     
  9. tims4wins

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    The Indians have hit more home runs (38) than runs given up (32) during the 19 games
     
  10. shawnrbu

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    Kluber coming out for the 9th for a chance for a CG SO and to bring the streak to 20.

    Edit: And he got it. 7th shutout of the streak. Cleveland has held their opponent to 2 runs or less in 16 of 20 games.
     
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  11. jon abbey

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    The Indians are 28-4 since moving Lindor to leadoff. Is that good? :)
     
  12. canderson

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    AKA a Cy Young clincher.
     
  13. Ford Frick's Asterisk

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    From what was said on the Tribe radio broadcast, they've scored first in 19 of the 20 games, and have trailed for a total of 4 innings during the streak. It's a nooner tomorrow for the AL record... Mike Clevinger vs. Buck Farmer for the 2nd time in 12 days. Indians won the last one 10-0.

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  14. Remagellan

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    None of the other teams in the modern era that won 20 or more games won the World Series. Only the 1935 Cubs, who won 21 straight, made the World Series. They lost to the Hank Greenberg era Tigers. The 2002 A's (20 straight) lost to the Twins in the first round of the playoffs. The 1916 Giants (26 straight wins) finished behind the Brooklyn Robins, who lost the World Series to the Red Sox led by their young pitching star Babe Ruth.
     
  15. brandonchristensen

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    I imagine Kluber probably sealed the Cy Young tonight.
     
  16. Delonte James Jr.

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    To expand on this a touch for the 19th-century teams:

    1875 Boston Red Stockings (Braves) of the National Association. won 26 straight to kick off their season. They won the National Association at a resounding 71-8, 15 games over second place Philadelphia. No matchup with the American Association as it was formed seven years later.

    1880 White Sox who went 21 straight undefeated with a tie at Providence 6/4/80, as game 2 of 21 of this stretch won the National League outright, at 67-17, also winning their pennant by 15 games, but in this case, the silver went to Providence. Like in 1875, there was naturally no with the American Association as it was formed two years later.

    In 1884, there were actually two such streaks of 20 straight wins at 84-28, with the St. Louis Maroons of the one year Union Association (also had the first "MLB" 20 strikeout game by One Arm Hugh Daily) and the Providence Grays. The Maroons, led by Sure Shot Fred Dunlap, won the Association handily, finishing 94-19, 21 games above the second place Cincinnati Outlaw Reds. It was considered a lower quality of play below the AA and NL, although their strong play made them part of the National League from 1885-89. However, the Union Association also led to something interesting regarding the other team of note here, the Providence Grays, and an all-time MLB record. The Grays went on to win the National League by 10.5 games with a record of, with the Boston Beaneaters finishing second, eventually sweeping the American Association's New York Metropolitans 3-0.

    As for the importance of the UA? Well, two SPs were the norm in those days. Providence had two: Old Hoss Radbourn and Charlie Sweeney. Lansche's Glory Fades Away states that the latter got drunk, expelled from the team after lack of willing to be removed from the mound in the summer of 1884, and later signed with the Maroons. It left the Grays primarily only Radbourn to pitch the rest of the season, including all three games of the 1884 World Series. This allowed Radbourn to get the most all-time wins in a season, 59 or 60 (depending on your source and/or interpretation of July 28th), given how frequently he was used. As Radbourn claimed (and paid as much) he was doing the work of two individuals the rest of 1884, Radbourn was also given free release following the season, as per his request--almost a free agency style move, which piqued my fancy when researching this.

    Bit misleading, yeah? Sorry to be a bit nitpicky, but they were 26 games without a loss, Games 124-150 of the 1916 season, but not 26 wins straight. 9/7/16-9/18/16 Game 1 for 12 straight, then a 1-1 tie after 8 on 9/18 against Pittsburgh Game 2, then 13 more from 9/19/16 Game 1 to 9/30/16 Game 1.
     
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  17. Ford Frick's Asterisk

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    To get really picky, the record the 1916 Giants hold is 27 consecutive games without a loss (12 wins, followed by a tie, followed by 14 wins). I get that MLB might want to officially recognize their feat, but there's simply no way to interpret that as a 26-game winning streak. As a Tribe fan, I'm hoping for at least 2 more, and I'll consider that the record… and maybe it will cause whoever is in charge of "official" MLB records to take another look at the 1916 Giants and realize their record makes no sense as a "winning streak". The Giants longest actual winning streak that season was 17, which came four months earlier. They also finished in 4th place, making them most likely the streakiest team in baseball history.

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  18. Lose Remerswaal

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    I'm rooting for them, for Tito's sake if for nothing else.

    I wonder what that medical break he had really was for?
     
  19. Bob Montgomery's Helmet Hat

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    Why do you doubt that it was the AFib procedure? Pretty sure that's what it was.
     
  20. LogansDad

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    Rhys Hoskins is on pace for 81 home runs per 162 games. Only strikes out 19% of the time though (SSS alert!), so he's no Aaron Judge.
     
  21. Lose Remerswaal

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    I'm thinking it was something more supernatural than that.
     
  22. E5 Yaz

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    OH NO! THE INDIANS ARE TRAILING!
     
  23. Lose Remerswaal

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  24. E5 Yaz

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    I was worried there for a moment
     
  25. Ford Frick's Asterisk

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    McCann and Ausmus will watch their opponents set the AL record from the clubhouse after arguing balls and strikes... from the zone they showed on TV, the umpire was right. Between this and challenging a pretty obvious home run, Ausmus has needlessly added at least 7 minutes to this game already (and I need to leave for work soon). I hope the Tigers fire Ausmus just to get his pettiness and unwritten rules BS out of the league. Miguel Cabrera is spending his time in the dugout bickering with Indians fans (although he appears to be having fun).

    Austin Jackson lines out to left with the bases loaded, but Cleveland still leads 4-1.

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  26. Lose Remerswaal

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  27. Al Zarilla

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    Roberto Perez hits one not against the Red Sox. 5-3.
     
  28. Ford Frick's Asterisk

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    Babe Perez through his last 18 games: .327/.393/.673 with 5 home runs and 19 rbi. The real difference in the offense during the streak has been the production from the 7-8-9 hitters.

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  29. KiltedFool

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    Ok I'll need some description on that one, Santana isn't known for wheels, so a triple with an attempted stretch for an inside the park/out at home has gotta be interesting. (Watching via Gameday)
     
  30. Al Zarilla

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    Ball hit the wall in left center and caromed way into center/right center. Tigers CFer may have gotten too close to the wall on a ball he couldn't catch. RFer probably not backing up either.
     
  31. jon abbey

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    CLE finishes it, 21 in a row now.
     
  32. canderson

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    Insane. So happy for Tito.
     
  33. mauidano

    mauidano Mai Tais for everyone! SoSH Member

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    Yeah, good guys and good team, white hot right now. Enjoy the run. Postseason is a different animal.
     
  34. jon abbey

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    It certainly is, but an odd thing to say in this case as they rolled through the AL playoffs last year (7-1 in two series) and seem decidedly better on paper this year, assuming Miller comes back as himself (admittedly a big assumption).
     
  35. mauidano

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    I keep reminding myself of those Mariner and Yankee teams that won over 100 games and failed to win the World Series. The Dodgers were a lock for the Series earlier this year. Not so much right now. The Sox were down 3-0 games in 2004 to NY. Shit happens in the playoffs. We shall see.
     
  36. Poulsonator

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    The Indians have gone from 69-56 to 90-56. Astonishing.
     
  37. jon abbey

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    Meant to post this last night, the Twins homered in each of the first seven innings in their 16-0 win, first team ever to do that.
     
  38. Bob Montgomery's Helmet Hat

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    Rhys Hoskins hit his 18th home run tonight. He has 117 at bats.
     
  39. Deathofthebambino

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    Yup, it's getting a little ridiculous. He had 12 homers through his first 24 games, and then he went into a four game "slump," and I think most folks figured it was bound to happen. Nope, he now has 6 in his last 6 games since the 4 game slide, and is at 18 homers through 34 games, along with 39 RBI's. OPS is 1.257. He's also sitting on a solid 26/26 K/BB rate. Kid is unreal.
     
  40. sean1562

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    Judge with two more. God I hope he sucks next year
     
  41. Bob Montgomery's Helmet Hat

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    Tribe down 2-1 in the 8th, with bases loaded, 1 out. Two foul pop outs later and it's on to the 9th.
     
  42. Bob Montgomery's Helmet Hat

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    Two outs, bottom of 9th, Lindor drives in the tying run with an opposite field double
     
  43. shawnrbu

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    KC was an out away from ending the streak, but a ball off the wall from Lindor was just out of Gordon's reach.
     
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  45. Deathofthebambino

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    Is there any doubt Cleveland wins this?
     
  46. Bob Montgomery's Helmet Hat

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    Lindor is so freaking good.
     
  47. Lowrielicious

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    A strike away
     
  48. Bob Montgomery's Helmet Hat

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    Jose Ramirez is so freaking good.
     
  49. jcaz

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    In tonight's MFY- BAL game, old friend Wade Miley lasted a full 19 pitches giving up 6 runs all earned, before leaving having recorded 1 out. Someone should get him a t-shirt that recognizes him as the Ace of that club.
     
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