Sandy Leon 2.0

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I get wanting to pimp the dot com, and that new threads are good, but there are now 5 threads on the 1st page with Leon in the thread title...
 

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I get wanting to pimp the dot com, and that new threads are good, but there are now 5 threads on the 1st page with Leon in the thread title...
If he keeps hitting at a +1000 OPS and gunning runners down on the base paths he may deserve his own site... Sons of Sandy Leon, anyone?
 

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In the Tennessee-California Little League game there was a kid named Leon, didn't get his first name. They had the kids introduce themselves and name their favorite player. Leon kid didn't name Sandy Leon! Oh well, give it more time. I did hear a Dustin Pedroia (from a little second baseman), a big Papi and a Mookie Betts from other kids.
 

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I want to know what he has for breakfast, for lunch and for dinner. I want to know if he's a regular tie, bow tie or bolo tie kind of guy. I want to know if he likes big butts or if he tells lies. Boxers or briefs. Dress left or Dress right. The more Sandy David León information I get the happier I will be.
 

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The Ringer breaks down Leon's transformation into Johnny Bench:

Luck has certainly played a role in León’s success at the plate this year, with his .434 BABIP deviating dramatically from his already-high .344 career mark (.257 before this season). But good fortune hasn’t been the only factor at play. While playing for the Aragua Tigers in the Venezuelan League this past winter, León received advice from Carlos Guillén that changed the way he approaches hitting: “[Guillén] told me to be more aggressive in certain counts and not miss my pitches,” León told the Globe.

It worked: León has improved because he’s making better contact with the baseball. In 2015, his soft-contact percentage was 29.3 percent, while his hard-contact percentage was a mere 14.1 percent. This season, León is making hard contact at a 35.3 percent clip, while his soft-contact mark has dropped to 19 percent. For context, Manny Machado’s hard-contact percentage is 36.2 percent.

That uptick in hard contact has coincided with a rise in León’s z-contact percentage (the percentage of contact a player makes with pitches in the strike zone), which is up from 89 percent last season to 91.9 percent in 2016. And it likewise coincides with a drop in his z-swing percentage (pitches León is swinging at in the strike zone), which dropped from 60.2 percent in 2015 to 56.3 percent this year. In sum: León is hitting the ball harder when he swings, but he’s also more patient at the plate, with his pitches per plate appearance rising from 3.92 in 2015 to 4.30 in 2016.

Though León has cooled off from the July that saw him hitting .355/.375/.581, he’s still performing at a torrid pace. He hit .306/.375/.518 in August and is hitting .350/.435/.400 so far in September. It’s officially more than just a flash-in-the-pan burst, and it’s surprised not just the Red Sox and their fans, but León himself.
 

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That's for the thread and links. So what do we do here? Sign him to a longer contract? And what might that cost? And how does that effect our plans for Swihart?
 

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I want to know what he has for breakfast, for lunch and for dinner. I want to know if he's a regular tie, bow tie or bolo tie kind of guy. I want to know if he likes big butts or if he tells lies. Boxers or briefs. Dress left or Dress right. The more Sandy David León information I get the happier I will be.
This is priceless! Thanks for the new sig.
 

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That's for the thread and links. So what do we do here? Sign him to a longer contract? And what might that cost? And how does that effect our plans for Swihart?
They don't really need to do anything at this point. They have him under team control for the next three years. They can certainly put off deciding on anything long term, or how it will affect Swihart or Vazquez, until they've got more data to work with.
 

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That's for the thread and links. So what do we do here? Sign him to a longer contract? And what might that cost? And how does that effect our plans for Swihart?
We have his rights for three more years. I believe in him more than I did a month ago, but not enough to sign him beyond that.
 

InsideTheParker

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That's for the thread and links. So what do we do here? Sign him to a longer contract? And what might that cost? And how does that effect our plans for Swihart?
Not signing him would seem nuts. Swihart can play third while Moncada matures. Shaw to first, HR to DH (Don't pay a gazillion for Edward Encarnacion.) Decide where to play whom in the off-season b/n '17 and '18.
(Never mind. I see RHF and MD80 have got the right answer re the contract. I still think you need to play him next year unless/until he fades.)
 

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Dunno... If swihart can become the catcher he was hoped to be and Vaz can be a great backup then having Leon or Vaz as a trade chip makes sense... But no rush to sign him for long term for at least another season. We're in a good spot to let things fall into place in '17
 

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Dunno... If swihart can become the catcher he was hoped to be and Vaz can be a great backup then having Leon or Vaz as a trade chip makes sense... But no rush to sign him for long term for at least another season. We're in a good spot to let things fall into place in '17
What Leon has been this year is probably somewhere between "Absolute best case" and "Ridiculous Pie-in-the-sky" for Swihart. You don't use a guy as a trade chip because you have another guy who has a tiny chance of being as good.

Now, there's a very good chance that at this time next year, Leon will have a .700 OPS, and we won't have to worry about it - but if Leon has a .900+ ops? He's absolutely the guy you keep.
 

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Sox hold the cards on this one. No pressure to do anything in the short term.

See how Swihart recovers, go into 2017 with Leon/Swihart/Vasquez and let that shake out in spring training. I'd like to see a couple more seasons like this one by Leon before signing him long term.
 

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Swihart pretty much has to play in AAA next year if they're keeping him at catcher, which I think they should. Vazquez and Leon are both out of options next year.
 

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What Leon has been this year is probably somewhere between "Absolute best case" and "Ridiculous Pie-in-the-sky" for Swihart. You don't use a guy as a trade chip because you have another guy who has a tiny chance of being as good.

Now, there's a very good chance that at this time next year, Leon will have a .700 OPS, and we won't have to worry about it - but if Leon has a .900+ ops? He's absolutely the guy you keep.
I guess I should specify that I think Leon is likely to end up .700 OPS guy and Swihart still a better option after '17.
Leon still good... But yeah. Not this good
 

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What happened to Sandy Leon in 2013? He appears to have been a very promising prospects for the Nats before his career was completely derailed. I understand that he was injured at the end of 2012, but he played through that successfully, didn't he?
 

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What happened to Sandy Leon in 2013? He appears to have been a very promising prospects for the Nats before his career was completely derailed. I understand that he was injured at the end of 2012, but he played through that successfully, didn't he?

Was he ever considered a real prospect? He hit well in the minors in 200+ at bats in 2012, but that's a total outlier in his minor league record. The 2014 Baseball Prospectus says "Defensive specialist Sandy Leon's offensive line is putrid enough to become a filthy euphemism". He wasn't even any good in Pawtucket this year or last. I'd have bet on Jacoby Brissett winning MVP this year ahead of Leon having this kind of season.