Rebirth of a Sale, man

[Savin Hillbilly]

Hopefully it's really minor, he misses one or at most two starts, and is OK the rest of the way.

But even if the news is worse than that, we shouldn't panic. The Sox are 14-8 in games Sale has started this year, a .636 pace (yes, the team has actually fared a bit worse with Sale on the mound than otherwise). At that pace, assuming he would start 10 of the remaining 54 games (I'm making it slightly less than 20% on the assumption that the Sox would find a way to stretch out the rotation a bit in September anyway), the Sox would go either 6-4 or 7-3 in his remaining starts. If you replace that with average, coin-flip performance (which, given our offense, implies worse than average pitching), it means a deficit of one or two games. Would that make the Yankees' job a bit easier? Sure. Would it be reason to panic and assume the team is toast? Not hardly.

Sale is magnificent, and a major part of the reason why the team is as good as it is. But only a part. The Sox are better with him, but still outstanding without him.

 

[Ale Xander]

Oh ffffffffffffffffff
Well good we got Evaldi.

Better be no more than 2 starts.

 

[joe dokes]

I think this is the point, the fact it's serious enough to miss a Yankee start tells you everything between the lines you need to know.

It's not "serious enough to miss a Yankee start."
Its serious enough to miss "the next start."

 

[joe dokes]

Yeah, but he eats at Olive Garden

10 bucks doesn't buy what it used to

 

[DaveRoberts'Shoes]

Yeah, but he eats at Olive Garden

#FakeNews

 

[InstaFace]

I'm sure this is just a way to give him more rest to keep him healthy for October. I'm sure his arm is actually fine. Nothing to see here. No big deal. Now is not the time to panic.

Oh ffffffffffffffffff
Well good we got Evaldi.

 

[staz]

Jesus what a kick in the balls that is. He did leave his last start a bit early {panics}.

I was right behind HP for Friday's game and I can tell you there was absolutely no indication of any problems. Maximum effort, pitch after pitch.

 

[staz]

FWIW, DiNardo: Chronic, not acute. Threw today. Team exercising abundance of caution.

Exhale.

 

[slamminsammya]

Chronic is better than acute???

 

[staz]

Chronic is better than acute???

I'm no doctor, but yes it most definitely is.

 

[patoaflac]

Depends. Flu is acute; lupus is chronic. On the shoulder it depends what is the real reason. No MRI signals it is not a big deal.

 

[uncannymanny]

 

[PrometheusWakefield]

This quote:

“If this was something more serious, I would tell you,” he said. “We’re not hiding anything. This is not something that we’re worried about. This is a concern at most.”

Makes me pretty certain that this is a phantom injury to rest for playoffs.

 

[canderson]

This quote:

“If this was something more serious, I would tell you,” he said. “We’re not hiding anything. This is not something that we’re worried about. This is a concern at most.”

Makes me pretty certain that this is a phantom injury to rest for playoffs.

I think he would pitch against the 2nd place team / arch rival first though if this was the case. Subbing Johnson for Saie is a night/day difference in a pennant race.

 

[StuckOnYouk]

Agreed.
You don’t rest him when you have the Yankees coming in. The stretch after NY sure
It’s got to be an injury and hopefully just a minor one

 

[Sampo Gida]

If my math is right Sale will be set up to pitch the WC game or 1st game of LDS with extended rest

Its entirely possible the latter comes against the MFY

The less the Yankees see of Sale the rest of the regular season the better IMO

 

[Adrian's Dome]

This quote:

“If this was something more serious, I would tell you,” he said. “We’re not hiding anything. This is not something that we’re worried about. This is a concern at most.”

Makes me pretty certain that this is a phantom injury to rest for playoffs.

No. That quote is exactly what it is, him reaffirming what we've already been told.

It's a minor injury the team is being extra precautionary about, which Sale himself was upfront about, both of which are very good things.

Remember last year when Moreland played horribly on a broken foot? That's the wrong way to handle injuries...this is the correct way.

 

[jon abbey]

The less the Yankees see of Sale the rest of the regular season the better IMO

You’ve said this twice now and come on, NY is 5-2 against BOS so far in non-Sale games and he has absolutely dominated them in the other two, which Boston has won by a combined 25-1. I know I agree with your statement above but Sox fans should not.

 

[NJ_Sox_Fan]

There's zero chance they sit him up 5 games with a 4 game series against the Yanks for any non injury reasons.

 

[Soxfan in Fla]

Meanwhile JA Happ was just hospitalized for hand, foot, and mouth disease and may miss Saturday's start.

That’s what you get for going Yankee I guess.

 

[glennhoffmania]

I can't believe how many people think that the opponent he's missing has anything to do with the decision to DL him or the severity of the issue. So if they were playing Baltimore instead and he went on the DL no one would be worried I assume. Christ.

 

[Red(s)HawksFan]

If this was truly a phantom DL thing, wouldn't it make sense to choose an "injury" that didn't incite panic in the fan base? Like a stiff neck or a sprained toe instead of anything to do with his arm?

That's why I'm inclined to take them at their word that it is inflammation and it isn't that serious.

 

[glennhoffmania]

If this was truly a phantom DL thing, wouldn't it make sense to choose an "injury" that didn't incite panic in the fan base? Like a stiff neck or a sprained toe instead of anything to do with his arm?

That's why I'm inclined to take them at their word that it is inflammation and it isn't that serious.

Agreed. Something is wrong. At this point it sounds minor. They aren't making shit up just to give him a week off. But there's no reason at all to assume that it's a more serious issue simply based on the opponent he'll miss. They're trying to win 30 more games and then a WS, and the most important thing is to have Sale as healthy as possible for the next three months.

 

[Buzzkill Pauley]

If this was truly a phantom DL thing, wouldn't it make sense to choose an "injury" that didn't incite panic in the fan base? Like a stiff neck or a sprained toe instead of anything to do with his arm?

That's why I'm inclined to take them at their word that it is inflammation and it isn't that serious.

The Sox are gaming the system to give Sale a break. I am 100% sure that every MLB pitcher’s throwing shoulder has some measurable chronic inflammation at this time of year. As Sale and DDski said, if the standings were different he’s be taking the ball.

IMO, the opponent being the MFYs has much less to do with the timing of this DL trip than does the presence of two off-days within the ten days of Sale’s DL-minimum.

Essentially, the Sox can give Sale a week off from throwing and still give all the other starters an extra day of rest.

I wholeheartedly approve this approach to saving key pitchers for the offseason, and hope they take the same approach with Porcello later on this month after the damn double-header with the O’s, quite frankly. Price could probably use one, too, but he already got a short breather due to the rainout.

 

[Jerry’s Curl]

The Sox are gaming the system to give Sale a break. I am 100% sure that every MLB pitcher’s throwing shoulder has some measurable chronic inflammation at this time of year. As Sale and DDski said, if the standings were different he’s be taking the ball.

IMO, the opponent being the MFYs has much less to do with the timing of this DL trip than does the presence of two off-days within the ten days of Sale’s DL-minimum.

Essentially, the Sox can give Sale a week off from throwing and still give all the other starters an extra day of rest.

I wholeheartedly approve this approach to saving key pitchers for the offseason, and hope they take the same approach with Porcello later on this month after the damn double-header with the O’s, quite frankly. Price could probably use one, too, but he already got a short breather due to the rainout.

I think you pretty much nailed it on the head.

 

[Reverend]

The Sox are gaming the system to give Sale a break. I am 100% sure that every MLB pitcher’s throwing shoulder has some measurable chronic inflammation at this time of year. As Sale and DDski said, if the standings were different he’s be taking the ball.

IMO, the opponent being the MFYs has much less to do with the timing of this DL trip than does the presence of two off-days within the ten days of Sale’s DL-minimum.

Essentially, the Sox can give Sale a week off from throwing and still give all the other starters an extra day of rest.

I wholeheartedly approve this approach to saving key pitchers for the offseason, and hope they take the same approach with Porcello later on this month after the damn double-header with the O’s, quite frankly. Price could probably use one, too, but he already got a short breather due to the rainout.

Saturated fat causes inflammation in humans.

 

[joe dokes]

Saturated fat causes inflammation in humans.

Is this an anagram of something profound?

 

[Reverend]

Is this an anagram of something profound?

Nope. It's just a fact I thought might support @Buzzkill Pauley 's contention that "inflammation" is probably something you can kind in any MLB player at any given moment.

It's actually way vaguer than people tend to think, so it's interesting to me it was cited as an injury likely to "incite panic." Anyone not suffering inflammation by this point in the season should probably be fined in Kangaroo Kourt.

 

[Sox and Rocks]

Saturated fat causes inflammation in humans.

No wonder I'm so inflamed. And my inflammation makes me look fat.

It's a double edged sword.

 

[phenweigh]

Do you mean "reassuring" in the same sense that Lynyrd Skynyrd's pilot "reassured" the band that the Convair 240 didn't need to be checked for any potential mechanical issues?

Too soon.

 

[Red(s)HawksFan]

Nope. It's just a fact I thought might support @Buzzkill Pauley 's contention that "inflammation" is probably something you can kind in any MLB player at any given moment.

It's actually way vaguer than people tend to think, so it's interesting to me it was cited as an injury likely to "incite panic." Anyone not suffering inflammation by this point in the season should probably be fined in Kangaroo Kourt.

For what it's worth, when I cited it as an injury likely to "incite panic", I wasn't referring to the inflammation part so much as the shoulder part. Inflammation in his knee or his hip or his pancreas wouldn't be nearly as panic inducing as anything to do with his shoulder.

 

[DJnVa]

Those extra pitches last year to get 300 k’s is the damn gift that keeps on giving.

He had 300 Ks before his last start and only went over 100 pitches 3 times in last 7 starts of season.

 

[DJnVa]

He did leave his last start a bit early {panics}.

He did? He was at 100 pitches through 6 innings. In 2 of his 3 starts prior to that he left after 99 pitches though 6 innings.

 

[uk_sox_fan]

It was not made up solely to get him some rest because you could do that after tonight and have him to lead off the MFY series. It is not something to panic about because a) he has shown every indication of being on top of his game, b) it being after the trade deadline they have no reason to lie about its severity and c) Sale seemed extremely reluctant to comply with the decision .

It is what they said it is: shoulder inflammation which wouldn't have stopped him from taking the mound if it were October or a critical game but a reason to give him some rest which just may pay dividends down the road. Ahkam's razor people .

 

[effectivelywild]

It was not made up solely to get him some rest because you could do that after tonight and have him to lead off the MFY series. It is not something to panic about because a) he has shown every indication of being on top of his game, b) it being after the trade deadline they have no reason to lie about its severity and c) Sale seemed extremely reluctant to comply with the decision .

It is what they said it is: shoulder inflammation which wouldn't have stopped him from taking the mound if it were October or a critical game but a reason to give him some rest which just may pay dividends down the road. Ahkam's razor people .

Are we sure its not some misdirection while the Sox explore interest in him on the waiver trade market?

 

[Reverend]

It was not made up solely to get him some rest because you could do that after tonight and have him to lead off the MFY series. It is not something to panic about because a) he has shown every indication of being on top of his game, b) it being after the trade deadline they have no reason to lie about its severity and c) Sale seemed extremely reluctant to comply with the decision .

It is what they said it is: shoulder inflammation which wouldn't have stopped him from taking the mound if it were October or a critical game but a reason to give him some rest which just may pay dividends down the road. Ahkam's razor people .

As to the bolded: That's really funny.

 

[RedOctober3829]

Red Sox aiming for Sale to pitch Wednesday in TOR; ERod bullpen on Sunday

 

[SemperFidelisSox]

That would put him in line to start in Philadaphia where he would have to swing a bat.

 

[themactavish]

As to the bolded: That's really funny.

Well, in his defense, there are probably a lot more Ahkams around these days than Occams or Ockhams. As my philosophy students might say, "You can take that for granite."

 

[Reverend]

Well, in his defense, there are probably a lot more Ahkams around these days than Occams or Ockhams. As my philosophy students might say, "You can take that for granite."

So, what you're saying is... is that that particular spelling is the simplest explanation?

 

[Red(s)HawksFan]

Sale eligible to come off the DL Wednesday, but it doesn't appear that is going to happen.

 

[Bob Montgomerys Helmet Hat]

Hopefully just pushed back to the weekend, in part to avoid his next start being in an NL park.

 

[luckysox]

Hopefully just pushed back to the weekend, in part to avoid his next start being in an NL park.

Or the sky is falling.

Could be either.

 

[doc]

That would put him in line to start in Philadaphia where he would have to swing a bat.

Or just hold it on his shoulder for 3 pitches

 

[Al Zarilla]

Sale eligible to come off the DL Wednesday, but it doesn't appear that is going to happen.

Pomeranz and Johnson back to back games. If this team keeps it going through all the injuries, I don’t know what to say.

 

[Van Everyman]

Abraham reported that Sale is not missing a start just being pushed back.

 

[luckysox]

So this is Pom’s last chance, I think. Hopefully more about him than about Sale’s shoulder.

 

[Buzzkill Pauley]

So this is Pom’s last chance, I think. Hopefully more about him than about Sale’s shoulder.

I think that you’re right. Unless he shows much better stuff than before, he’s not going to keep being sent out there every five days.

 

[JohnnyTheBone]

Hoping they just decided to avoid having him pitch in the NL park. Makes sense.

 

[LesterFan]

Jason Mastrodonato @JMastrodonatonow
Chris Sale will likely start in baltimore next weekend, Cora said. Didn’t want him to pitch in Toronto because it would line him up for Philly and they don’t want him to hit in Philly. Not a setback Cora says.