Roenis Elias traded to SEA (for PTBNL OR $)
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The free spot on the 40-man doesn't necessarily have to be filled immediately. Flexibility is a nice thing.
Far as I can tell, the only player on the 60-day DL is Marco Hernandez, who won't be back for a while yet, so my guess is that Seattle called about a guy the Sox were already planning to live without once Hernandez was healthy and they figured they might as well get a little cash. Otherwise, not sure what this is about.
Even with Hernandez activated, they’d still have only 39 on the 40 man roster. Most likely pitcher to be called up? Maybe Beeks, who is already on the 40... don’t see any other candidates.
Not really sure of any position players they’d call up. No need for Travis, who is on the 40 man anyway. I doubt they’d option Leon for Butler, and they can’t option Swihart (which would otherwise make sense to keep getting him PAs).
Could just be a depth move for coming seasons. Maybe a RP or C with options that can be shuttled coming back as the PTBNL.
Not really sure of any position players they’d call up. No need for Travis, who is on the 40 man anyway. I doubt they’d option Leon for Butler, and they can’t option Swihart (which would otherwise make sense to keep getting him PAs).
Could just be a depth move for coming seasons. Maybe a RP or C with options that can be shuttled coming back as the PTBNL.
Players on the 60-day DL do not count on the 40-man, so they will indeed need a spot for Hernandez when the time comes, though I don't think this trade is about Hernandez at all.
Leon can't be optioned either. Though a 4th catcher on the 40-man would be a good idea and good use of the open spot. It wouldn't be Butler because he too is out of options.
It would seem I miscounted. Kept coming up with 39 including Hernandez (but not Elias).
This is why I like the list on soxprospects.com. They number the players on the active 40-man but still list those on the DL.
I've been chewing on the idea of why DD traded Elias when he did, and I'm coming up empty.
WEEI shared this:
http://www.weei.com/blogs/rob-bradford/reason-why-red-sox-traded-roenis-elias
I don't see how this answers questions. Really, it only adds more questions...
Pure speculation on my part, of course, so treat that with the skepticism it deserves.
Edit: Maybe just to have room to bring Marco Hernandez back onto the 40-man when his DL stint is over?
WEEI shared this:
http://www.weei.com/blogs/rob-bradford/reason-why-red-sox-traded-roenis-elias
I don't see how this answers questions. Really, it only adds more questions...
- Why is vacating a spot on the 40-man roster important in April?
- Are we going to need to take on a 40-man roster spot in a trade of someone who, perhaps, isn't on the Red Sox 40-man (Castillo)?
Pure speculation on my part, of course, so treat that with the skepticism it deserves.
Edit: Maybe just to have room to bring Marco Hernandez back onto the 40-man when his DL stint is over?
There's nothing cooking. Elias had no future with the Red Sox, the Mariners came calling, and Dombrowski had no reason to say no (as he says in the article, the Red Sox are pretty flush with left handed pitchers).
There's no reason to think this was done because Dombrowski initiated anything, or had reason to. When the time comes to add Hernandez back to the roster (or some other acquisition or call-up), Elias easily could have been DFAed to make the space. It didn't have to be done now from the Red Sox' perspective.
There's no reason to think this was done because Dombrowski initiated anything, or had reason to. When the time comes to add Hernandez back to the roster (or some other acquisition or call-up), Elias easily could have been DFAed to make the space. It didn't have to be done now from the Red Sox' perspective.
Perhaps this guy will be the return from Seattle. He would fulfill a current need:
I think this mostly means they don't see LHRP as a pressing need at this juncture. Johnson (if kept), Poyner and Scott are all ahead of him, and as noted above Beeks has been lights out in AAA and may become someone they want to add later in the first half as off days become scarcer and injuries may crop up, etc. (EDIT: Beeks is already on 40-man)
Never bad to have competent-ish depth on hand, but if they've decided he's buried on the depth chart, we have enough options for low lev innings on the shuttle that we're in good shape even if a couple guys go down and/or Thornburg can't make it all the way back, etc.
Never bad to have competent-ish depth on hand, but if they've decided he's buried on the depth chart, we have enough options for low lev innings on the shuttle that we're in good shape even if a couple guys go down and/or Thornburg can't make it all the way back, etc.
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