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Robinson Cano suspended for steroids

Discussion in 'Radomski's Lounge' started by jon abbey, May 15, 2018.

  1. jon abbey

    jon abbey Shanghai Warrior Dope SoSH Member

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    I am jumping the gun a bit with the title, and will walk it back later and apologize if it turns out not to be true, but FWIW:

    Héctor Gómez‏ @hgomez27

    BREAKING NEWS: According to off the record sources and non-official reports, dominican All-Star Robinson Cano will be suspended for Steroid Use, could be announced today.

     
  2. glennhoffmania

    glennhoffmania but still failing Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    That would be interesting and pretty unsurprising. There's nothing about this yet when you google it however.
     
  3. jon abbey

    jon abbey Shanghai Warrior Dope SoSH Member

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    Yep, this Twitter report is the only thing so far, and it is probably complicated by him breaking his hand and being out for a while anyway.
     
  4. terrynever

    terrynever Member SoSH Member

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    The injury must have forced an unexpected urine test.
     
  5. Darnell's Son

    Darnell's Son He's a machine. Dope Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    I like how he capitalized all-star but not Dominican.
     
  6. jon abbey

    jon abbey Shanghai Warrior Dope SoSH Member

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    Usually there is a month or two between a positive test and it being announced, so an injury could confuse that typical timetable.
     
  7. ThePrideofShiner

    ThePrideofShiner spooky action from a distance SoSH Member

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    This would make me laugh more than anything in the world.

    Three years ago when I was at a Mariners-Yankees game, this drunk fellow was chanting steroids when ARod was up. I asked him if he would do the same for Nelson Cruz and he asked me why? Dumbass Mariners fans.
     
  8. DeadlySplitter

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  9. RedOctober3829

    RedOctober3829 Member SoSH Member

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    Ken Rosenthal confirms it. He's suspended 80 games.

     
  10. Wingack

    Wingack Yankee Mod Dope SoSH Member

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    We all know about those magical Dominican milkshakes.
     
  11. cheekydave

    cheekydave Member SoSH Member

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    Can ANYONE answer if this suspension is applied AFTER he returns from the DL? Thanks
     
  12. jon abbey

    jon abbey Shanghai Warrior Dope SoSH Member

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    Maybe this explains the timing, since after his injury he probably dropped all appeals so it could start ASAP:

    "Players who test positive for either their first or second tests are given the option to appeal, in which scientific tests will be conducted to prove validity of test. Within that period of time, they are restricted from participation in all baseball activity. If an appeal is granted, the suspension may be reduced by 40 games for the first offense or 80 games for the second offense. There is no appeal for a third offense. All suspensions are without pay. In addition, a suspended player can be replaced on the active roster by another player. If a player is on the disabled list, the suspension is served while on the disabled list. Unless a suspension is reduced on appeal, a suspended player is not allowed to participate in that year's post-season even if his suspension ends before then.
    Players who receive a lifetime ban after a third positive test may apply for reinstatement after one year and be eligible to be reinstated after two years."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_League_Baseball_drug_policy
     
  13. ThePrideofShiner

    ThePrideofShiner spooky action from a distance SoSH Member

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    I saw some talk about him going into the Hall of Fame recently. Guessing this ends that question.

    Also, how does this end up making his deal look? Humongous contract and never sniffed the postseason, and now suspended 80 games for steroids.
     
  14. cromulence

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    Gaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhh. Have to assume this isn't new and he was using for a long time. Probably torches his chances at the hall.

    Why Robbie?
     
  15. cromulence

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    Gotta love a Dominican radio station getting the scoop. Must've been via someone connected to Cano.
     
  16. Marbleheader

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  17. glennhoffmania

    glennhoffmania but still failing Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    Eh, it ain't his fault they didn't make the playoffs. And Cashman basically chose to pay Ellsbury instead of Cano, which hasn't exactly worked out despite one playoff appearance.
     
  18. RedOctober3829

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    Reports now saying he tested positive for a diuretic not a PED. Diuretics are seen as masking agents and subject to the same penalties as a positive PED test.
     
  19. moondog80

    moondog80 heart is two sizes two small SoSH Member

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    I'd have said he was a likely HOFer until this.
     
  20. EvilEmpire

    EvilEmpire Dope Staff Member Dope Gold Supporter

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    Man, this sucks. I was against signing him to a long contract extension, but I still enjoyed rooting for him.
     
  21. cromulence

    cromulence Member SoSH Member

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    Is there Posada evidence? Also Jeter is hiding back there so pretty sure (PRETTY SURE) that it's not a 100% dirty pic.
     
  22. cheekydave

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    Popped for using Furosemide
     
  23. bluefenderstrat

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  24. Sox and Rocks

    Sox and Rocks Member SoSH Member

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    Is he still on track to win a batting title someday?
     
  25. jnlevetoncnmt

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    He got busted for lasix? It's a diuretic, as a nurse they always told us to inject it slowly if IV or it can damage your hearing. I can't see what kind of advantage this would give you in baseball, but I would love to hear from the MD's on the board.
     
  26. bosox79

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    Could the Mariners use this to get out of his contract?
     
  27. Sox and Rocks

    Sox and Rocks Member SoSH Member

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    Answered above
     
  28. Wingack

    Wingack Yankee Mod Dope SoSH Member

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    Honestly, it seems like that is the right way to handle this matter by him and his people, I think maybe he still has a chance at the Hall.
     
  29. shaggydog2000

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    Any diuretic can be used as a masking agent:

    http://playhealthy.drugfree.org/facts/diuretics-and-masking-agents
     
  30. esfr

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    Us of a diuretic is not an automatic suspension...they needed some other kind of proof according to TJ Quinn [note correction, not Ken Rosenthal]

    ImageUploadedBySons of Sam Horn1526409756.181677.jpg
     
  31. mikeford

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    Guess that settles the Cano vs Pedroia debate once and for all
     
  32. Doc Zero

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    I guess sometimes you can predict baseball, Suzyn!
     
  33. glennhoffmania

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    Look, he said he's never taken a PED. I, for one, believe him.
     
  34. jon abbey

    jon abbey Shanghai Warrior Dope SoSH Member

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    He will lose $11 million from the suspension, damn.
     
  35. E5 Yaz

    E5 Yaz Transcends message boarding Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    Be careful with what you assume
     
  36. OurF'ingCity

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    Yeah, the substance abuse policy says:

    So the independent examiner obviously found some additional evidence, although I have no idea what the standard of proof is or anything like that. On the one hand you'd think if he dropped his appeal that suggests there was something else going on because presumably if he used Furosemide for a totally legitimate purpose he would want to fight to the end, but on the other hand the whole Deflategate saga makes pretty clear that you can be in the right and still decide it's not worth it to fight to the end due to standards of review, deference to the fact-finder and stuff like that.
     
  37. jon abbey

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    And since he was going to be out two months anyway with a broken hand, maybe better to just take the suspension now and come back in August.
     
  38. EvilEmpire

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    Injury or not, $11 million is an awful lot to walk away from if there was any chance that he could overturn it on appeal.
     
  39. genoasalami

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    Betting on a horse who takes Lasix (furosemide) for the first time is a known wagering angle. That is all I got.
     
  40. Steve Dillard

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    The story we allways hear is that players are hounded not to go to doctors not approved by the teams. Saying "I went to a doctor in the DR for medical treatment.." really is more of a red flag.
     
  41. Red(s)HawksFan

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    Pretty sure that's not how it works. He's on the DL, he stays on the DL until he's ready to be activated, then the suspension begins. Same thing that happened with Steven Wright. Cano's probably done for the year now.
     
  42. Bob Montgomery's Helmet Hat

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    Post 12 disagrees.
     
  43. Andrew

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  44. Poulsonator

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    I mean has it ever looked good?
     
  45. jon abbey

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    Joel Sherman‏Verified account @Joelsherman1

    Union tried to make deal for Cano on Fri that would lessen penalty, MLB refused on Sat. Union not long after dropped grievance but Cano’s broken hand slowed down announcement until today
     
  46. mauidano

    mauidano Mai Tais for everyone! SoSH Member

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    We can all make jokes about this and there are a ton of them. However, this is always a bad look on The Game. It still boggles my mind that anyone at that level making that kind of money puts themselves in a position to lose so much.

    It's not like he's a Minor League guy struggling to make it. He's got more money than he can ever spend and a reputation as one of the great players and team mates.

    Fuck him. Zero sympathy. Enjoy the albatross around your neck Robby.
     
  47. Curt S Loew

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    Because he cheated.
     
  48. Wingack

    Wingack Yankee Mod Dope SoSH Member

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  49. Sox and Rocks

    Sox and Rocks Member SoSH Member

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    It's the professional athlete equivalent of "No, really, Mom, it's not mine. I'm just holding it for a friend."
     
  50. Reggie's Racquet

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    He's from the dog family not horse family.
     

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