Revis the Patriot: Countdown to March 10th

[PedroKsBambino]

Again, it's not that I'm not following your argument. I just disagree heavily on the level underlying risk and the conclusion that it's likely to change how the Jets approach Revis.

Assuming the Jets signing Revis will effect the penalty (and I think that's reasonable although there is an argument the Pats were damaged even if he signs with another team) Here is my rough guess as to the underlying likelihood of penalty

Fine: 95 percent
Low draft choice: 4.999 percent
Larger penalty: 0.0001 percent.

Given those assumptions, what affect do you think potential penalties should have on a Jets contract offer?

I get that we have different underlying assumptions and I didn't mean to be personal/belittle your argument with my initial joke. I just don't think there is the same level of risk/uncertainty that you do.

 
I'll be more explicit, then.  You attempted to cite the comp for Briggs, a 5th round pick (note that they also had to flip third-round picks, though only five slots).
 
Briggs was on a one-year deal at time of tampering (not signed for an additional season, as Revis was).  And oh yeah---that comp was awarded after Briggs re-signed with his current team.  We're talking about a scenario where the tampering team actually signs the guy. Thus, as to this one precedent, your assumption appears to be that contract status and where the player ultimately signs doesn't matter, and I think that's ridiculous.  
 
We can look at all the other scenarios people have put forward to think about where league might land (Parcells/Belichick, where the 'other' team actually got the asset; other tampering FAs, franchise signings, etc.) but only if you're going to commit to taking the time to look at the facts of each, not just re-state completely made up probabilities about what might happen and stick your head in the sand about the facts in each.

 

[axx]

Revis' deal may technically be for two years but it has always been considered a one year deal. They can't tag him either which IIRC was the issue with Briggs.

 

[PedroKsBambino]

I think that's part of what makes it harder to assess---Pats argument surely would be that they had a strong negotiating position because Revis was under contract until they say otherwise.    Someone certainly can argue that the second year wouldn't in all probability occur.
 
The argument here is that the tampering changes Revis' perception of his market value, and thus what he's wiling to renegotiate his contract for.   People can disagree about a bunch of those things, but it's a different situation than we had with Briggs.  And that's why the facts of the 'precedents' matter when talking about the level of potential compensation.   Since we don't know how league will think about all of this (including whether they will care, another variable) I think it creates uncertainty for Jets that is greater than for anyone else.

 

[Stitch01]

 
I'll be more explicit, then.  You attempted to cite the comp for Briggs, a 5th round pick (note that they also had to flip third-round picks, though only five slots).
 
Briggs was on a one-year deal at time of tampering (not signed for an additional season, as Revis was).  And oh yeah---that comp was awarded after Briggs re-signed with his current team.  We're talking about a scenario where the tampering team actually signs the guy. Thus, as to this one precedent, your assumption appears to be that contract status and where the player ultimately signs doesn't matter, and I think that's ridiculous.  
 
We can look at all the other scenarios people have put forward to think about where league might land (Parcells/Belichick, where the 'other' team actually got the asset; other tampering FAs, franchise signings, etc.) but only if you're going to commit to taking the time to look at the facts of each, not just re-state completely made up probabilities about what might happen and stick your head in the sand about the facts in each.

I don't recall citing Briggs, although I think the nature of the violation is less serious here and expect the league comes down les harshly on Woody. I don't think the coaching comps are relevant. They were under contract. Revis won't be when/if the Jets sign him and coaches aren't a party to the CBA

Totally fine if you think my assumptions are nuts, that's different from not understanding your argument.

 

[PedroKsBambino]

I don't recall citing Briggs, although I think the nature of the violation is less serious here and expect the league comes down les harshly on Woody. I don't think the coaching comps are relevant. They were under contract. Revis won't be when/if the Jets sign him and coaches aren't a party to the CBA

Totally fine if you think my assumptions are nuts, that's different from not understanding your argument.

 
If you weren't citing Briggs when you said:
 

 
 
When the uncertainty is realistically over whether the worst case penalty is a fifth round pick or a seventh round pick, it's not going to change their calculus.

 
then who were you referring to, out of curiosity?
 
If you understood my argument you wouldn't be making up probabilities and suggesting the facts of the precedents are completely irrelevant to those probabilities.

 

[Stitch01]

 
If you weren't citing Briggs when you said:
 
 
then who were you referring to, out of curiosity?
 
If you understood my argument you wouldn't be making up probabilities and suggesting the facts of the precedents are completely irrelevant to those probabilities.

Not really referring to anything other than, IMO, the chances of a significant penalty are near zero.

I do understand your argument. The Jets need to make a probabilistic assessment of potential penalties when deciding whether to make an offer for Revis because there is uncertainty around those penalties shoulda they sign Revis. You think that assessment should put some meaningful weight on a franchise tag like penalty. I don't that their assessment will include that for the reasons.
I stated.

I don't think you are stupid or don't understand my argument because we disagree on how to probability weight those outcomes.

I think the chances are near zero because, although woody clearly tampered

--Woodys comments about last year aren't, in practice, going to harm the Patriots
--the remainder of his comments were very general in nature
--player tampering is rampant in practice and no penalty for tampering has ever approached franchise compensation (or for salary cap shenanigans or other somewhat similar infractions.
--the CBA likely wouldn't allow a wink/nod by the league telling the Jets not to sign Revis.
--The league doesn't generally come down hard on owners.
--Parcells and Belichick aren't great comps because 1) they aren't collectively bargained positions and 2) they involved situations where the Pats and Jets had arguable contractual rights. The Pats lose contractual righs to Revis if they cut him.
--Revis doesn't have an opt out. The patriots are still free to hold Revis to his 2015 contract.
--while I think the Kraft-Goodell relationship is salvageable, I don't think the NFL office currently has any desire to hand the Pats a windfall.
--I don't think the pats have the ability to ask for/negotiate a settlement here. They file a complaint with the league office who determines a penalty at its sole discretion (which distinguishes it from the bb/Parcells cases.
--I think the jets know all this and will put an extremely low probability weight on a major penalty when deciding whether to make an offer to Revis.

 

[dcmissle]

I've lost track of the football calendar, but it seems that things will like be resolved with Revis one way or another pretty soon. Curran said last week that everything else is at a standstill until this is resolved. Given the potential cap hits, that makes sense.

Love to be in the meeting when they explain, we really want you back, but from a cap standpoint especially, this is all we can bear.

 

[RedOctober3829]

I've lost track of the football calendar, but it seems that things will like be resolved with Revis one way or another pretty soon. Curran said last week that everything else is at a standstill until this is resolved. Given the potential cap hits, that makes sense.
Love to be in the meeting when they explain, we really want you back, but from a cap standpoint especially, this is all we can bear.

The Revis situation has to be resolved by the time FA starts on March 10th. They can franchise DMC as early as tomorrow, however.

 

[axx]

Revis has an roster bonus for $12M on March 9th. So he will either need to be extended or released before then. The Pats don't have the cap room to pick it up anyway, they are currently 3.8M in the hole.

 

[NortheasternPJ]

Revis has an roster bonus for $12M on March 9th. So he will either need to be extended or released before then. The Pats don't have the cap room to pick it up anyway, they are currently 3.8M in the hole.

 
They're $3.8mm if you include Revis' entire cap hit. With Wilfork and Solder taking up 10% of the total cap, almost all of which is regained if cut prior to league year, the Pats have enough room to figure it out if they want to keep Revis at that number. Not saying it's advisable but it's not an absolute that they couldn't pick it up.

 

[Mystic Merlin]

Yeah, he's getting extended by 3/8 or 3/9, or he'll be released.  They will not scramble to clear 4-5M to keep him under contract at the 25M hit.
 
I feel like Revis has no reason not to wait this out and hit the market.  It isn't as if the Pats will pull or lessen their offer come 3/10.  He can sit back and weigh all of his options.  

 

[PedroKsBambino]

I think they at least have to say they may need to pull their offer without notice once FA starts, though...they have other things to be doing.   Thus, their leverage is that his chances of playing here go down precipitously once FA hits, I think.   They can credibly say (and may or may not actually plan to) spend the money elsewhere--Wilfork, others---once FA starts.  So I think their pitch will be "if you want to be here, we need a deal by start of FA...if not, we love you and we'll keep in touch but no promises"    So, not an ultimatum but an update on their real situation once FA starts.

 

[Ed Hillel]

Yeah, he's getting extended by 3/8 or 3/9, or he'll be released.  They will not scramble to clear 4-5M to keep him under contract at the 25M hit.
 
I feel like Revis has no reason not to wait this out and hit the market.  It isn't as if the Pats will pull or lessen their offer come 3/10.  He can sit back and weigh all of his options.  

If Revis wants to return to New England, I don't think he can afford to take long. Belichick will not risk waiting around and losing out on alternatives for any one player, even one the caliber of Revis. I'm sure Belichick will essentially tell him the same thing. If he's not extended by March 10, I think he's as good as gone.

 

[Leather]

See, e.g., Wes Welker.

 

[HomeRunBaker]

Yeah, he's getting extended by 3/8 or 3/9, or he'll be released.  They will not scramble to clear 4-5M to keep him under contract at the 25M hit.
 
I feel like Revis has no reason not to wait this out and hit the market.  It isn't as if the Pats will pull or lessen their offer come 3/10.  He can sit back and weigh all of his options.  

Yeah if we don't pick up the team option Revis is certain to be released as he has no incentive to sign prior to hitting the open market. He has all the leverage here as others will step up to pay him what he's looking for. We need him MUCH more than he needs us.

 

[Ed Hillel]

Yeah if we don't pick up the team option Revis is certain to be released as he has no incentive to sign prior to hitting the open market. He has all the leverage here as others will step up to pay him what he's looking for. We need him MUCH more than he needs us.

I wouldn't say that, especially without knowing what Revis wants. Revis sure is fantastic, but I'm sure Belichick could do some fine work with 15 million. That's not to say I don't hope he's back, I sure do, but I don't think they need him at all.

 

[dcmissle]

If Revis wants to return to New England, I don't think he can afford to take long. Belichick will not risk waiting around and losing out on alternatives for any one player, even one the caliber of Revis. I'm sure Belichick will essentially tell him the same thing. If he's not extended by March 10, I think he's as good as gone.

That's the point. Everything is connected, and when you're talking such a significant player dollar wise and otherwise, I don't think Curran is exaggerating when he says Revis situation has everything else at a standstill. Not draft evaluation, certainly, but most everything else. I don't see this dragging on for weeks.

 

[southshoresoxfan]

Just dont see a reason for Revis to leave as long as the Pats make a top of market offer.

Look if he really wants to cash in and some crap team w tons of cap space throws an absurd number (like 50 mil guarenteed) then sure hes gone.

Carr has the most guarenteed dollars at 25. Just commit 3/50 w just over half guarenteed and he likely signs.

I dont think revis spurns the most guarenteed money to go rot in jacksonville for a cpl mil more. If he does, more power to him. I believe Willie McGinest when he said he thinks Revis is staying.

 

[HomeRunBaker]

I wouldn't say that, especially without knowing what Revis wants. Revis sure is fantastic, but I'm sure Belichick could do some fine work with 15 million. That's not to say I don't hope he's back, I sure do, but I don't think they need him at all.

You don't need to be Nostradamus to know what Revis wants. He's never shown anything other than being available to work for the employer who offers him the most money which is his absolute right. The only way he can do this is by waiting for his release and Jon Kraft already prepared the fanbase (those who listened anyway) by stating that the option year was only a placeholder.

As far as who needs who more. Revis doesn't need to be under contract to us to get a better offer......on the contrary, he needs to be a FA to do so. The Patriots DO need Revis to have the best opportunity to repeat. Denying this is being blind.

 

[Stitch01]

I think they at least have to say they may need to pull their offer without notice once FA starts, though...they have other things to be doing.   Thus, their leverage is that his chances of playing here go down precipitously once FA hits, I think.   They can credibly say (and may or may not actually plan to) spend the money elsewhere--Wilfork, others---once FA starts.  So I think their pitch will be "if you want to be here, we need a deal by start of FA...if not, we love you and we'll keep in touch but no promises"    So, not an ultimatum but an update on their real situation once FA starts.

Agreed. I think the best plan is to not get cute or dick around to save a few bucks under the cap pushing for a big hometown discount that's probably not coming, put the best offer out the team is willing to live with out before free agency, make it clear to Revis that they value him but this is the best the team can do and they aren't going to be in a bidding war, and, if its not enough, move into free agency as if Revis isn't an option. If after whatever happens I'm free agency the cap space is still there and Revis doesn't get a better offer elsewhere in free agency, awesome, but I'd personally be surprised if Revis hits the open market and is here next year.

 

[Stitch01]

That's the point. Everything is connected, and when you're talking such a significant player dollar wise and otherwise, I don't think Curran is exaggerating when he says Revis situation has everything else at a standstill. Not draft evaluation, certainly, but most everything else. I don't see this dragging on for weeks.

I don't think Revis will prevent them from extending McCourty or even Ghost or Vereen if there's common ground there. They can figure out what the most they are willing to offer Revis is and plan accordingly, it's not perfect information but I think those could still get done. Free agency or figuring out what to do with Wilfork with Revis in flux are much more difficult, so sooner is better.

 

[koufax32]

You don't need to be Nostradamus to know what Revis wants. He's never shown anything other than being available to work for the employer who offers him the most money which is his absolute right. The only way he can do this is by waiting for his release and Jon Kraft already prepared the fanbase (those who listened anyway) by stating that the option year was only a placeholder.
As far as who needs who more. Revis doesn't need to be under contract to us to get a better offer......on the contrary, he needs to be a FA to do so. The Patriots DO need Revis to have the best opportunity to repeat. Denying this is being blind.

Lost in the money hunting is the fact that his doing so has been in the context of pretty competitive teams. He has sought for top dollar from teams that were in the playoff conversation. We just don't know what value he puts on each component part. Is he 90% money and 10% winning? We don't know. But we can't say that he's 100% money. There's not enough evidence to say that.

 

[HomeRunBaker]

Lost in the money hunting is the fact that his doing so has been in the context of pretty competitive teams. He has sought for top dollar from teams that were in the playoff conversation. We just don't know what value he puts on each component part. Is he 90% money and 10% winning? We don't know. But we can't say that he's 100% money. There's not enough evidence to say that.

Looks to me as though there is plenty of evidence as he's also been called the NFL's best businessman for his ability to get the most money out of teams each time he has had leverage.

He held out of an entire training camp when with the Jets when he knew they had to pay him.....and they finally caved. Then he forced his way out of NY to maximize his earnings with Tampa Bay. He will all but certainy do the same by forcing the Pats to release him prior to March 9th which would follow the trend he has set at every opportunity.

If Revis doesn't force his teams hand and agrees to a deal with us it will be the first time in his career where he has acted in this manner. Don't count on it.....he knows what this game is about.

 

[soxfaninyankeeland]

HRB is right. Just another point of information (sorry if mentioned, haven't read entire thread), Revis' uncle and advisor is Sean Gilbert, who sat out an entire season rather than be paid the franchise tag number and then litigated whether the Redskins had the right to franchise him twice when they did it again the following year. I'm sure Revis loves winning, but probably not for one nickel less than his own perceived value.

 

[HomeRunBaker]

but the Pats and Revis agreed to a deal last year, I'm not sure why they couldn't do so again.

We very well could just as we did last season......after Revis positioned himself for the highest bidder.

 

[Dogman]

We very well could just as we did last season......after Revis positioned himself for the highest bidder.

 
 
This isn't remotely true.
 
Revis was released so he did no positioning. He then took less money from NE despite multiple reports of multiple offers of much more money from other teams because he wanted to win. 

 

[Caspir]

We very well could just as we did last season......after Revis positioned himself for the highest bidder.

Yea, if you're going down this road be careful. He took less money to come to New England, which sort of messes with your entire theory about how he only goes where the money is.

 

[dcmissle]

Agreed. I think the best plan is to not get cute or dick around to save a few bucks under the cap pushing for a big hometown discount that's probably not coming, put the best offer out the team is willing to live with out before free agency, make it clear to Revis that they value him but this is the best the team can do and they aren't going to be in a bidding war, and, if its not enough, move into free agency as if Revis isn't an option. If after whatever happens I'm free agency the cap space is still there and Revis doesn't get a better offer elsewhere in free agency, awesome, but I'd personally be surprised if Revis hits the open market and is here next year.

+ 1.

 

[HomeRunBaker]

 
 
This isn't remotely true.
 
Revis was released so he did no positioning. He then took less money from NE despite multiple reports of multiple offers of much more money from other teams because he wanted to win. 

Of course Revis did. He refused to restructure his Bucs deal for significantly less money and Tampa Bay couldn't find anyone to absorb the Revis salary which is how he ended up here.

Who offered more money than the Patriots? Kraft's PR bs doesn't pass the smell test nor does Revis "sources" or else the Bucs would have found that team and made a deal. Revis' team knew the market which was why he signed like the day after the Bucs couldn't find a trade partner wanting to pay him.

 

[Caspir]

http://mweb.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24499140/robert-kraft-darrelle-revis-took-less-money-to-come-to-patriots

Comments from Kraft.

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/patriots_nfl/new_england_patriots/2015/02/patriots_must_lock_up_darrelle_revis

That one mentions taking less, but doing so in order to win a championship and really boost his value, so it sort of speaks to what you were saying about no discounts etc. I'm mobile so I'll find more detailed links once I'm on the computer.

 

[TheoShmeo]

The sample size with Revis is way too small to make such definitive statements about what he will do next. How many times has he been faced with free agency decisions? Not enough to know what he will do in every situation.

It's clear that money matters a lot to him. Not that it should not.

But we have never seen him make a money decision in the wake of winning a Super Bowl. We've never seen what he would do when he has done that while being on a team that is poised to be a serious contender the next year.

Nothing we have seen thus far tells us what he will do if he receives a competitive long term offer that is not absolute top dollars from a team that has the chance to repeat as champs or at least compete for that honor.

I would be shocked if Revis went to a non-competitor who offered the most bucks. Can anyone picture him going to Jax, for example?

My view is that Ty Law has it about right. If the Pats offer a deal that matches or exceeds the currently highest paid corner, that another team might pay more wont doom them. But I am far from certain as I don't know how any of us would approach this with the certainty of HRB.
 
Late edit to fix a typo

 

[Van Everyman]

Two questions:

1) Is Revis a lock for the HOF? If not, could winning twice be a contributing—and, thus, motivating—factor?

2) If we don't re-sign Revis, who are our other options at this point?

 

[GeorgeCostanza]

Two questions:
1) Is Revis a lock for the HOF? If not, could winning twice be a contributing—and, thus, motivating—factor?
2) If we don't re-sign Revis, who are our other options at this point?

1. I think so

2. I'm still high from the win and don't even want to think about this yet. Example 3,746 as to why I was best left as assistant to the traveling secretary.

 

[SeoulSoxFan]

I'm fairly confident BB & Caserio will find a pretty good use for that $13-16 cap space if Revis' extension can't be worked out. 
 
No F.A. corner is that attractive to me -- go with supplementing the offense with (if cut) Brandon Marshall or Percy Harvin. Then go draft a corner to add to depth and/or a pass rusher to help out the secondary. 
 
Browner, Arrington, Butler, Ryan, and Dennard make up a much, much weaker group w/o the Island obviously, but sometimes you have to make do with what you have left over. 

 

[Ed Hillel]

I like Flowers and Maxwell, as well as Tramon Williams, myself, although they may end up overpriced. There is just a ton of edge-rush talent available this offseason, as well. If they can't bring back Revis, they can certainly upgrade that area.
 
Check out this list, it's nuts:
 

Spoiler

1. Justin Houston
2. Jerry Hughes
3. Jason Pierre-Paul
4. Greg Hardy
5. Brian Orakpo
6. Pernell McPhee
7. Jabaal Sheard
8. Jason Worilds
9. Brandon Graham
10. Derrick Morgan
11. Adrian Clayborn
12. Akeem Ayers
13. Brooks Reed
14. John Abraham
15. George Selvie
16. George Johnson
17. O'Brien Schofield
18. James Harrison
19. Dwight Freeney
20. Sam Acho
21. Corey Wootton
22. Anthony Spencer
23. Osi Umenyiora
24. Kroy Biermann
25. Da'Quan Bowers
26. Shaun Phillips
27. Parys Haralson (Re-signed 1-year deal with NO)
28. Arthur Moats
29. Larry English

 

[SeoulSoxFan]

Never mind that the draft has a great crop of pass rushers as well. I'm afraid the F.A. top pass rushers would cause a nice little sticker shock, but someone like Ayers may find himself squeezed out of a crowded room. 

 

[PedroKsBambino]

Couldn't one imagine the Pats combining Revis and Wilfork's positions and salaries and thinking about Suh + second tier CB as the alternative?  There's a million reasons that is unlikely (whether Suh makes FA is an unknown; he will be very expensive and have a multi-year cap impact; they'd need to speak to Schwartz/otehrs about him as a teammate; moving from Wilfork has a major culture impact, etc.) but it's a potentially unique opportunity, too.
 
Note:  If I were betting, I'd say Pats make their last-best offer soon and let Revis know that...and that he'll take it so long as it is close to market.

 

[RedOctober3829]

Couldn't one imagine the Pats combining Revis and Wilfork's positions and salaries and thinking about Suh + second tier CB as the alternative?  There's a million reasons that is unlikely (whether Suh makes FA is an unknown; he will be very expensive and have a multi-year cap impact; they'd need to speak to Schwartz/otehrs about him as a teammate; moving from Wilfork has a major culture impact, etc.) but it's a potentially unique opportunity, too.
 
Note:  If I were betting, I'd say Pats make their last-best offer soon and let Revis know that...and that he'll take it so long as it is close to market.

Suh is going to command so much money that the Patriots will be out of the bidding before it even starts.  I can see him getting a deal from, say, the Raiders or the Jaguars for over $60 million guaranteed and a total deal of between $110-$120 million. 

 

[Mugsy's Walk-Off Bunt]

Revis is an absolute stone-cold lock for the HOF and likely was before winning a ring.

 

[ElcaballitoMVP]

Never mind that the draft has a great crop of pass rushers as well. I'm afraid the F.A. top pass rushers would cause a nice little sticker shock, but someone like Ayers may find himself squeezed out of a crowded room. 

 
There are? 

There are some top guys (Williams, Gregory, Beasley, Fowler, Ray, Dupree) but they're all likely to be off the board by the time the Pats pick. After that, I think you get into a number of boom or bust prospects (Armstead, who could be gone anyway, Odighizuwa, etc).  Pass rushers also have a pretty big bust rate, so I don't know if I'd like them taking one early unless one of those top guys dropped. 

 

[JohnnyTheBone]

I read a piece today which makes the case that the Pats will have a huge surplus of cash to spend this offseason.  This is the first I've heard of the "minimum threshold", and was wondering if any cap-savvy posters could verify the veracity of this article.
 

The current collective bargaining agreement - signed in 2011 - says each team must spend a minimum of 89 percent of the salary cap in cash over two distinct four-year periods (2013-16 and 2017-20).
 
You can find this provision on Page 84 of the CBA.
 
Nearly one-third of the teams in the NFL are below the 2013-16 threshold heading into the 2015 season - chief among them is your World Champion New England Patriots.
 
According to NFLPA figures published by USA Today, the Patriots were at 82.7 percent of the $256 million they were allotted in 2013 and '14 [as of last Friday].
That's a $16.8 million shortfall of the $227.8 million minimum average the team was required to have spent over that time frame.
 
The Patriots were $44.3 million below the 100 percent threshold.
 

 
Source: http://www.boston.com/sports/blogs/obnoxiousbostonfan/2015/02/money_no_issue_for_patriots_-_unless_they_make_it_one.html?p1=Must_Reads_hp

 

[JohnnyK]

This is the first I've heard of the "minimum threshold", and was wondering if any cap-savvy posters could verify the veracity of this article.

https://nfllabor.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/collective-bargaining-agreement-2011-2020.pdf
 
Page 84
 
Miguel doesn't have numbers for total cash spent unfortunately, so those numbers might be hard to verify, although he does mention it here in his article about potential Revis deals:
 

In the below proposals I do not backload Revis’ contracts as much as the Patriots have typically have done in the past in order to increase the Patriots’ cash spending in the years 2015 and 2016. In the new CBA teams are required to spend 89% of the cap in cash over a four-year period (2013-2016). The Patriots spent 82.7%
 

 

 

[soxhop411]

Jeff Howe ‏@jeffphowe  3m3 minutes ago
Sources: Patriots prioritizing Darrelle Revis, taking measured approach with other free agents http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/patriots_nfl/the_blitz/2015/02/sources_patriots_prioritizing_darrelle_revis_taking_measured …
 
 

 
The Patriots’ actions this week have indicated they’re all in on cornerbackDarrelle Revis.
It’s unclear how much progress the two camps have made in their efforts to strike a contract extension this week at the scouting combine in Indianapolis, but the Patriots have been deliberate with their other objectives as they creep toward free agency, according to a variety of sources.
There’s no arguing the fact that Revis should be the Patriots’ primary objective before free agency begins March 10, and his hefty price tag will impact others who are also looking for their own pay days. Because of this, it makes sense to explore options with Revis before filtering down the line, as a reverse course could handicap the Pats’ ability to find common ground with Revis as they work to strike a new deal.
Revis signed a two-year, $32 million contract last March, but it was viewed by both sides as a one-year, $12 million agreement. Of course, with Revis’ impressive performance and the Patriots’ Super Bowl victory, neither side could feel overly defeated if they need to use his 2015 option year as a worst-case scenario. In that instance, the Pats have to pick up his option by the last day of the 2014 league year, and he would earn $20 million in 2015 in salary, bonuses and incentives, including a $9 million check that would be doled out March 10.
Again, Revis’ price remains uncertain. If he wants to be the highest-paid cornerback in terms of average annual value, he would command $14.02 million per season to supplant Patrick Peterson’s deal. But Revis turned down a pair of offers last March from a pair of non-contenders that would have paid him $16 million in 2014, so he has already been willing to leave a massive chunk of money on the table to play for the Patriots. His positive experience in his first year with the team would seem to suggest he’d do it again.
So that’s what the Patriots are working to accomplish. Meanwhile, the impending class of free agents -- safety Devin McCourty, running backsShane Vereen and Stevan Ridley, offensive lineman Dan Connolly and kicker Stephen Gostkowski, to name the headliners -- will have to be patient. With two and a half weeks to go before free agency, there is still plenty of time 

 

[RedOctober3829]

The Patriots’ actions this week have indicated they’re all in on cornerback Darrelle Revis.

It’s unclear how much progress the two camps have made in their efforts to strike a contract extension this week at the scouting combine in Indianapolis, but the Patriots have been deliberate with their other objectives as they creep toward free agency, according to a variety of sources.

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/patriots_nfl/the_blitz/2015/02/sources_patriots_prioritizing_darrelle_revis_taking_measured

 

[Devizier]

Have to say, loving the new thread title.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jK-NcRmVcw

 

[Matt Young's Control]

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/patriots_nfl/the_blitz/2015/02/sources_patriots_prioritizing_darrelle_revis_taking_measured

Exactly what "actions" have the Patriots taken that make it clear they are all in? Nothing in the rest of the article supports that claim. Is he hinting at behind the scenes movements we are not privy to?

 

[NortheasternPJ]

Exactly what "actions" have the Patriots taken that make it clear they are all in? Nothing in the rest of the article supports that claim. Is he hinting at behind the scenes movements we are not privy to?

I heard they put his name up on the scoreboard. It worked for the Cubs!

 

[Ed Hillel]

Exactly what "actions" have the Patriots taken that make it clear they are all in? Nothing in the rest of the article supports that claim. Is he hinting at behind the scenes movements we are not privy to?

 
Seems that way to me.

 

[Stevie1der]

I heard they put his name up on the scoreboard. It worked for the Cubs!

 
I'll bet 4 years for 70 would get it done.

 

[dcmissle]

Exactly what "actions" have the Patriots taken that make it clear they are all in? Nothing in the rest of the article supports that claim. Is he hinting at behind the scenes movements we are not privy to?

He's not the first guy to say that everything else is stalled during Revis watch. Curran said it more than a week ago.

But one should not confuse non-action with action. Of course nothing is happening until this is resolved. It can't. We're looking at a high seven-figure, low eight-figure, cap swing depending on how this goes. Other than applying a franchise tag -- McCourty? -- or maybe cutting guys, the team is basically frozen until this is resolved. Which is why I think the Pats have a D-day not too far around the corner.