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Rethinking Barstool?

Discussion in 'Our Errors are Mistakes: The Media Forum' started by allstonite, Mar 8, 2017.

  1. Helmet Head

    Helmet Head Well-Known Member Silver Supporter SoSH Member

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    I know I shouldn’t be surprised how stupid the NFL is after how they conducted themselves over the years but they continue to amaze me. All they have to do is give them access (specifically to media night of the Super Bowl, which everyone has access to) and this is a complete non story within 5 minutes. If Barstool fucks up and does something stupid after that, they are the ones that will suffer and look like idiots. Instead, they are giving barstool exactly what they want. Free content without doing anything. How do they not realize this? How far up does the stupid go? Does this come directly from Goodell.
     
  2. The Napkin

    The Napkin wise ass al kaprielian Dope SoSH Member

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    seems like they're still pretty much shitheads

     
  3. nattysez

    nattysez Member SoSH Member

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    Yep

     
  4. Smiling Joe Hesketh

    Smiling Joe Hesketh All Hail King Boron Dope

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    JFC they suck. Every last one of them. Going after Kantor now? Christ.
     
  5. Haunted

    Haunted The Man in the Box Silver Supporter SoSH Member

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    I'm sure they'd be perfectly accepting if someone else relabeled parts of their podcast without attribution and profited off of it.
     
  6. JCizzle

    JCizzle Member SoSH Member

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    Ding ding ding. You can't be thin skinned about content theft and then blow up when you get caught doing it yourself. Portnoy was just complaining about people making Stern clown shirts the other day.
     
  7. Haunted

    Haunted The Man in the Box Silver Supporter SoSH Member

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  8. nattysez

    nattysez Member SoSH Member

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    They are idiots and will get away with it for the reasons Haunted just stated.

     
  9. Cellar-Door

    Cellar-Door Member SoSH Member

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    Mark Marin should be really worried about getting his license suspended in New Jersey, it sure looks like he out and out lied on the DCMA letter under penalty of perjury, and I'd guess he's done it before.
     
  10. luckiestman

    luckiestman Son of the Harpy SoSH Member

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    its all good to laugh at Barstool but if twitter users cant share content they dont own on twitter, that is going to hurt twitter and of course this goes against the tenets of meme culture
     
  11. Cellar-Door

    Cellar-Door Member SoSH Member

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    I'm curious what you mean here.

    Not being able to take other people's copyrighted materials and pass it off as your own is very different from "sharing" content through a re-tweet or a link.
    Memes are generally not something that would fall under the category of a copyright violation for a number of reasons, revolving around fair use, changes, etc.
    Additionally, the difference between private and commercial use also comes into play here pretty heavily.
     
  12. NickEsasky

    NickEsasky Please Hammer, Don't Hurt 'Em SoSH Member

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    See the Tweet from Portnoy above. It got flagged for copyright issues when all it was was the Ric Flair Woooo gif that you could find and include in a tweet in 2 seconds..
     
  13. Cellar-Door

    Cellar-Door Member SoSH Member

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    That's Twitter having a shitty automated process for DMCA violation reports, not a real DMCA issue, someone probably spammed the report button so twitter auto pulled it. Very different situation from legitimate copyright issues which are the real point of the Barstool issue.
     
  14. Smiling Joe Hesketh

    Smiling Joe Hesketh All Hail King Boron Dope

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  15. Vinho Tinto

    Vinho Tinto Member SoSH Member

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    They do. However, Twitter is riding shotgun in that clown car.
     
  16. John Marzano Olympic Hero

    John Marzano Olympic Hero has fancy plans, and pants to match Dope

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    If only there was a t-shirt I could copy--maybe light blue--with Portnoy's picture on it with a big red nose.
     
  17. kenneycb

    kenneycb Hates Goose Island Beer; Loves Backdoor Play SoSH Member

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    So would the better move be to succumb to DCMA or work within their confines? Whatever they did you’re going to mock in a way you see fit because Barstool.
     
  18. nattysez

    nattysez Member SoSH Member

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    Perhaps they could not use others' content, and when they do use others' content for proper purposes, claim that theirs is a fair use rather than lying that they own the work/believed they had permission to use it? Because that's what any competent IP attorney would have them do.
     
  19. kenneycb

    kenneycb Hates Goose Island Beer; Loves Backdoor Play SoSH Member

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    Of course. But given time travel is not possible to undo old posts, what is your more reasonable solution to limit their liability?
     
  20. nattysez

    nattysez Member SoSH Member

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    The fact is that they, like fuckjerry, fatjewish and other internet scum, have tried to build a popular social media following by stealing others' content. So I'd say that it's fair game to make fun of them for (1) stealing others' content, (2) being douchebags about it, (3) having terrible attorneys, and (4) trying to "fix" the problem by deleting 60,000 tweets.

    In other news, Norman Chad did something I haven't seen before: equated BSG wth Barstool:

    I wonder if BSG (when he was BSG) dragged Chad in one of his media columns -- hard to imagine how else you'd equate BSG with Barstool.

    Edit -- looks like Chad was on the BS report 10 years ago, so their issue must been more recent.
     
  21. Myt1

    Myt1 the FRESH maker Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    Also, Bob Ryan got suspended for saying that he wanted to smack the wife of a basketball player.
     
  22. Devizier

    Devizier Member SoSH Member

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    Are these crooks going to be driven out of business or does this stuff not matter anymore?
     
  23. AlNipper49

    AlNipper49 Huge Member Dope

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    Is there zero doubt that Kidd’s wife would be absolutely kicked his assistant
     
  24. TFP

    TFP Dope Dope

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    Big Cat's gonna be a dad. Legitimately happy for him, and good for him keeping his private life this private while becoming so popular. Can't wait for his kid to stumble across "Drink Paint" when he's a teenager though.

    https://www.barstoolsports.com/chic...s-im-going-to-be-a-dad-this-summer-on-purpose

    He's talked in multiple podcasts lately (when pushed by guests) about having a lot of equity in Barstool that will amount to millions of dollars if they ever get sold/liquidated. He ain't going anywhere until that converts to cash and maybe not even then.
     
  25. Koji’s Slider

    Koji’s Slider Member SoSH Member

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    Big and and Dave are the stars, once they leave/bought out, Barstool is pretty close to being over. I still say Big Cat has a 30-40 years in sports media ahead of him.
     
  26. CantKeepmedown

    CantKeepmedown Member SoSH Member

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    Interesting to see how he and KFC go about things with their personal lives/families. I didn't even know Dan had a GF, let alone a serious one/wife and a child on the way. Great news. He seems like a great person that is well liked by just about everyone.
    KFC, on the other hand, parades his children all across the internet. As Dan said, it's a personal choice for all. But I feel like opening yourself up the way KFC does can only lead to negative stuff. Certainly his marital issues didn't help at all. Those poor kids are going to have access to Twitter/internet one of these days. Ugh.
     

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