The " Match of the day" recap that shows about 10 minutes of all of the games as a summary / highlights package is pretty awesome.
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Dick Pole Upside said:
Yeah, I gotta say that this is the best thing for my sports on TV viewing, ever. NBCSN has hit it out of the park. Three games every Sat morning, another on Sunday, another on Monday - all live - and then replays at various morning slots through the week of the streamed games. Great job by them on the amount of coverage.
It looks like NBC Sports used BT's commentary crew for Arsenal at Fulham, so that's good news for fans of Ian Darke if the trend continues.
Does anyone have full replays of games available to them through the Live Extra app? I'm trying to figure out if AT&T doesn't have them or if it's on the NBC side.
TheJodyReedExperience said:
That's NBC, and it sucks. Foxsoccer.tv wasn't great, but it was a lot better than NBC's version.
No full replays for me either (Cox). "There are no full event replays right now" is the message I'm seeing. Seems like an NBC issue.TheJodyReedExperience said:
I'm at a client's office and would like to stream ManU - Chelsea, but NBC Sports Live Extra is telling me that I can't because my TV provider (the much-hated Time Warner Cable) is not on their list of approved providers.
Any workarounds for this? My client doesn't care about me watching the game while I work, but he freaks out about frontrow and similar sites because of virus concerns.
Any workarounds for this? My client doesn't care about me watching the game while I work, but he freaks out about frontrow and similar sites because of virus concerns.
Dick Pole Upside said:
NBC are at the mercy of whatever games Sky picks for the Saturday 5.30 pm kickoff. Sky can only pick clubs so many times in a season (they took the piss with picking Man U almost every week in the 90s, and regulation was passed) and the police really hate late kickoffs for derbies on a Saturday.
Sunday's Liverpool-United and the North London derby though, so that ain't too bad.
Sorry... I meant the NBC/NBCSN collective... your point re "prime time" match-up and Sky selection is well taken. Given the option, I assume we'll see our fair share of Sunderland, Stoke City, AV, Everton, etc. as "featured" teams.
Looking forward to Liverpool-United!
Looking forward to Liverpool-United!
NBC(SN) should be picking everything and spreading the wealth though too. If they want people to pick a team do badly they should offer the same chances to everyone especially on a week like this with no marquee Saturday 10 AM game. For instance I'm beyond excited I get the Everton-Cardiff match on NBCSN although I also get Extra Time. I hope in the future it isn't always every Big Four game in that slot because that got repetitive on Fox.
I am so glad to have verizon fios and beinsports and thus be able to bathe in the glory of Ray Hudson's commentary again.
Ok, here's what bugs me about the way NBC is handling the matches. Since I am more of a casual fan and not a die hard, I will watch games if they re on, but I will not actively seek them. In the days of FOX soccer, I would usually channel surf and come across a game -even a taped one- and I would leave the station there. I would watch a ton of games that way. Nowadays, NBC sports in all its infinite glory instead of showing game replays, it shows other sports I have no interest on. So, whenever I surf there, I don't find anything that interests me. But I almost always find something on BEInsports. So, I end up watching more La Liga and Serie A games.
Do they perhaps show replays on the extra stations they were supposed to put on?
Do they perhaps show replays on the extra stations they were supposed to put on?
Same here it baffles me that they're deciding to run outdoorsy shows instead of say United-WBA which wasn't on TV.
Also, I hope they provide more analysis during their MOTD because I think that's lacking right now. It feels more like a fireside chat than something for the average American EPL fan (which is not the newbie fan) full of discussion that the BBC show does very well. I watch the BBC version as often as possible and the quality is far superior for obvious reasons. That said NBC can definitely improve that show with some tweaks.
Also, I hope they provide more analysis during their MOTD because I think that's lacking right now. It feels more like a fireside chat than something for the average American EPL fan (which is not the newbie fan) full of discussion that the BBC show does very well. I watch the BBC version as often as possible and the quality is far superior for obvious reasons. That said NBC can definitely improve that show with some tweaks.
Did NBC take BPL off of NBC? Tottenham and Sunderland are playing at 12:30 today and NBC is showing Skiing. Soccer is on NBCsports.
Championship Sunday schedule (all times EDT):
[tablegrid=]09:00 AM Premier League Live CNBC 10:00 AM Manchester City v. West Ham United NBC 10:00 AM Liverpool v. Newcastle United NBCSN 10:00 AM Tottenham Hotspur v. Aston Villa USA 10:00 AM Cardiff City v. Chelsea CNBC 10:00 AM Norwich City v. Arsenal MSNBC 10:00 AM Hull City v. Everton Bravo 10:00 AM Southampton v. Manchester United SyFy 10:00 AM Sunderland v. Swansea City Esquire 10:00 AM Fulham v. Crystal Palace E! 10:00 AM West Bromwich Albion v. Stoke City Oxygen 12:00 PM Goal Zone NBC, NBCSN 02:00 PM Premier League Live: The Champions NBCSN
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1) There's an Esquire channel?
2) Can only imagine the typical Oxygen viewer turning on WBA and Stoke and wondering what technical problem has happened to their set.
2) Can only imagine the typical Oxygen viewer turning on WBA and Stoke and wondering what technical problem has happened to their set.
Yeah, all in all it's a pretty messed up arrangement. First off, being relatively new to following BPL I'm not sure why they're showing all 10 fixtures at once. Is this some sort of tradition where all of the final Sunday's games start at 3 pm GMT? It seems that staggering the start times similar to a typical Saturday would yield wider and more sustained viewership with higher ad revenues, no? If the various races were still left undetermined heading into Sunday, would fans really be expected to switch around between up to 10 games going on at the same time?
The response a few years ago to the multi-channel set-up for March Madness was similarly confusing, when CBS partnered with Turner and began airing opening-round games simultaneously on TBS, TNT and TruTV. Channel surfing was a pain in the ass because I had to commit TruTV's three-digit number to memory. Doing so with 10 cable or satellite channels, some of which many viewers have never watched or don't even know exist, is bound to be even more cumbersome.
As for Esquire, apparently it used to be Style Network (which I've never watched either) but was re-branded last fall.
The response a few years ago to the multi-channel set-up for March Madness was similarly confusing, when CBS partnered with Turner and began airing opening-round games simultaneously on TBS, TNT and TruTV. Channel surfing was a pain in the ass because I had to commit TruTV's three-digit number to memory. Doing so with 10 cable or satellite channels, some of which many viewers have never watched or don't even know exist, is bound to be even more cumbersome.
As for Esquire, apparently it used to be Style Network (which I've never watched either) but was re-branded last fall.
Yeah +1, this is entirely fantastical. Atleti and Barca are pretty much must see TV for me as well. Sunday will be awesome. Plus I have 2 games myself!
dirtynine said:
Except they don't play all 32 first-round games of March Madness at the exact same time.
Dummy's point about not wanting results to affect outcomes makes some sense, I suppose. But isn't it just as likely that results from the preceding weekend (or the three weekday games) might alter a team's strategy heading into Sunday? I'm not sure how much of a difference there is.
To be clear, I'm not unequivocally stating that this plan sucks; rather just pointing out some flaws I see on paper. I plan on watching as well to get a feel for what it's like to have 10 games going on at once, all televised, and I'll try to pretend there's a lot more on the line than there actually is.
I bet you'll end up liking it.
This is the entirety of the reason it's done - it's also why in big tournaments like the World Cup, Euros, etc. the final group stage games are played simultaneously. Because draws are a legit outcome in soccer, you don't want two teams finding out ahead of time that they can split the points from a matchup and each achieve their objectives. Goal differential, a big tiebreaker, is another metric that could be highly affected by knowing too much beforehand.
Plus, it's just more fun. In March Madness teams don't really care what's happening in the simultaneous games - it's head-down, win, find out who you're playing next. In situations like this (when there's something on the line, anyway), each goal scored in the entire league ricochets through the other games, changing crowds on a dime, changing tactics in mid-stride - it's incredible to watch.
Too bad so much is already settled this time around. In a perfect world you'd have 2-3 teams vying for the title, another handful trying for a top-4 finish (and qualification to next year's Champions League), a few more trying for a top-7 finish (Europa League), and then 5-6 scrambling to stay out of the bottom 3 - all being determined in 90 minutes in 10 different settings, all inter-connected and with the backdrop of blood rivalries in many cases. It's beautiful madness.
This is the entirety of the reason it's done - it's also why in big tournaments like the World Cup, Euros, etc. the final group stage games are played simultaneously. Because draws are a legit outcome in soccer, you don't want two teams finding out ahead of time that they can split the points from a matchup and each achieve their objectives. Goal differential, a big tiebreaker, is another metric that could be highly affected by knowing too much beforehand.
Plus, it's just more fun. In March Madness teams don't really care what's happening in the simultaneous games - it's head-down, win, find out who you're playing next. In situations like this (when there's something on the line, anyway), each goal scored in the entire league ricochets through the other games, changing crowds on a dime, changing tactics in mid-stride - it's incredible to watch.
Too bad so much is already settled this time around. In a perfect world you'd have 2-3 teams vying for the title, another handful trying for a top-4 finish (and qualification to next year's Champions League), a few more trying for a top-7 finish (Europa League), and then 5-6 scrambling to stay out of the bottom 3 - all being determined in 90 minutes in 10 different settings, all inter-connected and with the backdrop of blood rivalries in many cases. It's beautiful madness.
They do it for reasons such as this:
http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/feb/25/world-cup-25-stunning-moments-no3-germany-austria-1982-rob-smyth
http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/feb/25/world-cup-25-stunning-moments-no3-germany-austria-1982-rob-smyth
The NFL now schedules Week 17 with an eye toward making sure no early game makes a later game less meaningful.
To dog's point, in most Premiership years you could schedule a doubleheader and sustain interest throughout the day. This year there's not much to resolve but in many years you could resolve relegation or Europa or the final CL spot in the early games and then decide the title late. Maybe someday. For now this is pretty satisfying.
To dog's point, in most Premiership years you could schedule a doubleheader and sustain interest throughout the day. This year there's not much to resolve but in many years you could resolve relegation or Europa or the final CL spot in the early games and then decide the title late. Maybe someday. For now this is pretty satisfying.
The Italians call it a "biscotti".LTF said:
Nobody has a flare for describing soccer corruption like Italians.
Plus, on the last day of the season ("Championship Sunday" is a dumb name, even if it does have some double meaning) all in-studio commentary by Rebecca Lowe will be done as she rides a Sybian.
"Edin Dzekooooooo-ooooooo-ooooooo."
"Edin Dzekooooooo-ooooooo-ooooooo."
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LTF said:
I can sympathize with the Dog...I had the same question a few years ago and then did way too much reading about the dark and seamy side of professional football, where players fixing matches has been a serious and on-going problem. All the leagues have done something, some more effective than others (looking right at you Serie A), and the EPL solution is kinda neat.
First, I assume fans are following live scoreboards of the other games on their phones. Second, I assume pubs love this day more than any other in the whole year, especially ones with multiple TVs. Third, it has led to that glorious moment when Aguero snatched the title out of ManU's teeth.
We need a consolidated game thread. Mix the optimism of the Liverpool contingent with the restless Gunners, toss in the fatalism and humor of the Newcastle hostages, make sure Zomp is there so everyone has a target, let the Spurs guys hang out in the back grimly staring down mgoblue2 and allaboutthesox and let the PRBot post in blue. It'll be awesome.
For sports bar experiences, final Sunday is incredible. I went to Nevada Smith's on final Sunday 2009 when Newcastle was relegated. Relegation notwithstanding, It was pretty awesome watching all the games at the same time, with different fan bases huddled near the TV with their teams. You hear cheers/jeers and everyone checks to see what happened, people bouncing from game to game with updates, it's a blast.
Thanks for all the input. Gambling issues never crossed my mind, and frankly neither did the specter of ties being mutually beneficial to teams playing each other given certain known outcomes.
I'm sold. Maybe next year they can show games on Lifetime and Oprah's network, too.
I'm sold. Maybe next year they can show games on Lifetime and Oprah's network, too.
3 years ago, at halftime of the final games, the 16th-19th place teams all had the same number of points and were separated by 2 goals in GD. The 2 teams in the relegation places changed about 5 times during the second half.
LTF said:
Has anyone else been reading those 25 moments articles? Fantastic reads. I only remember seeing the Zidane headbutt so they've been enlightening too.
EDIT- SFIC, was that the year Blackpool took the lead against United but ended up going down? I remember that year.
Yeah, Blackpool briefly had the lead at Old Trafford, but ended up going behind on, of all things, an own goal.mgoblue2 said:
West Ham were already relegated coming into the final games, but Wigan, Wolves, Birmingham, and Blackpool were all fighting it out. All 4 were in the relegation zone at some point in the last 30 minutes of the season. At one point before Blackpool fell behind, Wolves and Wigan were tied in points and GD, and Wolves were only staying up because of goals scored.
Ultimately Blackpool and Birmingham joined the Hammers in the Championship, and neither has been back since. In fact, they both barely avoided relegation to League One this season.
Of the top of my head, I believe that was also the last season in which Wolves were neither promoted nor relegated.
DLew On Roids said:
She was one of the original primary investors in the media firm that launched it (as was Tom Werner). NBC Universal bought the channel in October 2007.
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