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Does Doc coach next year? I would tell him he can either be a GM or the coach… not both
 

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Does Doc coach next year? I would tell him he can either be a GM or the coach… not both
Coach, maybe. GM? No. They have zero wing talent. Zero. It's brutal when an old and slow Joe Johnson knocks you out of the playoffs. It'd be nice to have a decent offensive talent to make JJ work on defensive and force Snyder into a real decision to leave him out there or not.
 

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Joe Johnson is 35 years old. Doc couldn't scheme up a way to stop a slow, old 35 year old with 1.5 go to moves. That should be it for him coaching.
 

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Per 100 possessions, Houston was +16.2 with Harden off of the court during their series against OKC. Anyone care to guess was OKC was without Westbrook?

-50.8!
 

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I would say 2010 is on the border. They were not great in the regular season, though you could say KG at least was conserving for the playoffs. If it weren't for 13287135 foul calls in the 4th quarter of game 7...(never mind Meta hitting a shot that he hits about as often as Marcus Smart in a shooting funk).

2012 they definitely overachieved to win 3 games in the ECF against the Heat.
 
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Has a Doc team ever exceeded expectations?
Seriously? He won a COY Award on a Magic team that didn't even make the playoffs when they were a legit threat to win single-digit games that year.

Doc's coaching problem with the Clippers is that he is an awful General Manager, a job that he never wanted and was forced upon him. I know this may make ElUno's head explode but this team missed Blake badly on the offensive end these past two games getting nothing out of Speights in his spot.
 

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I want the best product possible, but am I the only one who thinks there are too many off days in these first rounds?
 

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I want the best product possible, but am I the only one who thinks there are too many off days in these first rounds?
Personally I like it as you don't have many games overlapping and I hate to DVR playoff games when I'm seeing results on other feeds, boards, etc. What's the rush anyway? There isn't anything going on in May/June except for baseball.
 

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Seriously? He won a COY Award on a Magic team that didn't even make the playoffs when they were a legit threat to win single-digit games that year.

Doc's coaching problem with the Clippers is that he is an awful General Manager, a job that he never wanted and was forced upon him. I know this may make ElUno's head explode but this team missed Blake badly on the offensive end these past two games getting nothing out of Speights in his spot.
So once 15 years ago? I think he is overrated as a coach. League average
 

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Per 100 possessions, Houston was +16.2 with Harden off of the court during their series against OKC. Anyone care to guess was OKC was without Westbrook?

-50.8!
That's all fine and well but there aren't a lot of players who can sit around and wait for the ball to come to them and then all of a sudden become a playmaker in the six minutes that RW is on the bench.

At some point, to be a team, there has to be trust in one's teammates.

The other thing that happened was that Westbrook was 2-for-11 from the field in the fourth quarter Tuesday night (0-of-5 from three) and a combined 14 for 49 (28.6%) in the fourth for the series.
 

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Just imagine Doc's reputation if KG's knee didn't blow out.
 

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I think it is time to get over it. 30th pick in the first round is a complete wasteland of pickings
Except it wasn't - Chalmers and Jordan were both talked about a lot and would have helped. Obviously, I don't care that much but that was a head scratcher from Day 1.
 

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That's all fine and well but there aren't a lot of players who can sit around and wait for the ball to come to them and then all of a sudden become a playmaker in the six minutes that RW is on the bench.

At some point, to be a team, there has to be trust in one's teammates.

The other thing that happened was that Westbrook was 2-for-11 from the field in the fourth quarter Tuesday night (0-of-5 from three) and a combined 14 for 49 (28.6%) in the fourth for the series.
I really reject this line of thinking. I get that guys have to be in a rhythm but these guys are professional basketball players, when they get the ball they should be ready to go. Westbrook's usage is off the charts, but I disagree with the idea that he is a super-ballhog. He passes the call much more frequently than other ballhogs like Jordan, Kobe and Iverson and I think he is very unselfish while passing on fast breaks and inside around the basket.

Westbrook shoots too many threes and takes a lot of difficult shots, but you know what? How about some other guys make some of their shots. Last night Oladipo was 4-17, Abrines was 4-11, Robertson was 1/7, and a lot of those shots were good looks at the basket. It didn't help Westbrook that OKC relies on guys they got off the scrap heap like Abrines, Robertson and Grant to play significant minutes while the guys they have invested real assets in (Kanter, Sabonis, McDermott) are buried on the bench.
 

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I really reject this line of thinking. I get that guys have to be in a rhythm but these guys are professional basketball players, when they get the ball they should be ready to go. Westbrook's usage is off the charts, but I disagree with the idea that he is a super-ballhog. He passes the call much more frequently than other ballhogs like Jordan, Kobe and Iverson and I think he is very unselfish while passing on fast breaks and inside around the basket.

Westbrook shoots too many threes and takes a lot of difficult shots, but you know what? How about some other guys make some of their shots. Last night Oladipo was 4-17, Abrines was 4-11, Robertson was 1/7, and a lot of those shots were good looks at the basket. It didn't help Westbrook that OKC relies on guys they got off the scrap heap like Abrines, Robertson and Grant to play significant minutes while the guys they have invested real assets in (Kanter, Sabonis, McDermott) are buried on the bench.
Not saying that he's a super ballhog but from what I've seen (and I didn't watch the game last night so I can't comment on that specifically), my point is that he has the ball in his hands so much it makes it difficult for players to generate offense when he's off the court.

Generating consistent offense in the NBA means figuring out how guys are playing you, what the defense is giving, what moves work and what doesn't within any game. None of that is happening for anyone else but RW.

It's like the Cs. IT4 is their best scorer by miles but Brad has him playing off the ball and setting picks for others, which is interesting to watch because sometimes he's setting picks for others and sometimes he's faking setting picks for others to get easy scores). Granted I don't watch a ton of Thunder but from what I see, the Thunder rarely run any of that kind of stuff when RW's on the court.

Posting a piece from our Kevin O'Connor that asks a similar question: https://theringer.com/russell-westbrook-off-ball-offense-efficiency-change-of-role-546c97be71e5
 

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So once 15 years ago? I think he is overrated as a coach. League average
Well you're preaching to a guy who feels nearly all coaches are league average at this level so I can't really argue that point although I do feel Doc is one of the exeptions. His problem with the Clippers is personnel. That is on Doc the awful and non-creative GM.....not Doc the coach.

The job he did with the Celtics and the insanity of that locker room each year for 9 months is highly underrated. He's overachieved with rebuilding teams in Orlando and someone kept a crazy ship from sinking for 5 years in Boston. He won a title and was a Kendrick Perkins knee from winning two. I'd imagine that he's in the HOF as a coach at some point.
 
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raptors doing their usual thing in a closeout game, bucks within 7 after being down 23 late in the 3rd
 

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raptors can't stop the freak from getting to the glass but he's totally gassed and keeps front rimming his fts
 

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Reggie Miller is just so incredibly bad. How is he the #1 TNT guy?

Hope the Bucks can find a way to sneak this out but not looking great
 

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Seriously? He won a COY Award on a Magic team that didn't even make the playoffs when they were a legit threat to win single-digit games that year.

Doc's coaching problem with the Clippers is that he is an awful General Manager, a job that he never wanted and was forced upon him. I know this may make ElUno's head explode but this team missed Blake badly on the offensive end these past two games getting nothing out of Speights in his spot.
I have nothing against Blake. Obviously his offense was missed. My issue is with injury prone guys. That's it. As great as he may be, he is unreliable so he can go.

Any clipper fan who actually watched the season would tell you that giving bass real minutes is their only chance to make up the front court loss. Mo just stands 25 feet away and shoots threes. They need someone inside willing to bang and with some hint of offensive talent. The problem is Doc is so lost defensively on stopping a very simple offense and old slow guard.
 

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So does anyone still think Demar DeRozan isn't a very good player?
 

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SA leads 75-74 in an entertaining game. Conley's hit some huge shots. Gasol and Green both have 4 fouls.
 

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It's amazing Memphis is up 88-87 when they have 19 defensive rebounds and the Spurs have 14 offensive rebounds.