Peyton Manning did HGH

[RedOctober3829]

In bombshell court papers unsealed in a defamation lawsuit against Al Jazeera America, the defunct cable news network says football legend Peyton Manning “confirmed” much of the doping allegations made against him by its primary source. …

The report cited the word of Charlie Sly, who the network indicated was a pharmacist who had worked at the Guyer Institute in Indianapolis. After Al Jazeera’s story came out and made a splash by dropping the names of big-name athletes like Manning, Dr. Dale Guyer denied that Sly was ever an employee. Sly also recanted his story. …




According to memorandums from Al Jazeera, Davies contacted Manning’s CAA agent Tom Condon before the documentary aired to get comment on something that Sly had been recorded saying. Specifically, Sly stated, “I did part of my training at the Guyer Institute which is like this anti-aging clinic in Indiana. [Peyton Manning] and his wife would come in after hours and get IVs and shit. … “

Nine days after Condon was contacted in December 2015, the prominent Gibson Dunn attorney Ted Olson called Robert Corn-Revere of DWT, the firm providing outside counsel to Al Jazeera.

“In their communications with DWT, the Mannings’ lawyers confirmed much of what Sly had said,” states unsealed court papers. …

“Sly created a short, homemade video in which he recanted every word he had ever said to Al Jazeera’s undercover reporter,” states Al Jazeera’s court brief. “Sly’s recantation rang hollow. As explained in Defendants’ Motion to Compel against Gibson Dunn & Crutcher LLP, Sly’s last-minute denials followed a visit to his family’s home by investigators hired by lawyers for National Football League player Peyton Manning … which prompted Sly’s sister to call 911. On the video, Sly appeared to be reading a statement that was prepared for him while sweating profusely. … On top of that, the Mannings (through counsel) had already corroborated Sly’s most explosive claims, making his denials all the less believable.”

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[Kenny F'ing Powers]

Guy is teflon. Nothing will come of this.

 

[Bozo Texino]

 

[scott bankheadcase]

Guy is teflon. Nothing will come of this.

Agreed. Question for me is, in the NFL, does anyone care if any athlete did it? Rodney Harrison got caught with PEDs right? I don't think anyone cared. Shawn Merriman? Nothing really came of it.

Manning is on another level and is getting a pass for multiple reasons, but, even if he was treated more like a normal NFL player would this make an impact? Are PEDs just basically expected in football players?

 

[bigq]

The HGH admission bothers me far less than the thuggish behavior - sending “investigators” hired by lawyers for Manning to Sly’s home.

 

[ifmanis5]

Just gonna take a big, long swig of hot black coffee and turn on ESPN.

 

[John Marzano Olympic Hero]

If Peyton Manning hit a ball with a stick, this would be huge news. But it's not, and writers love themselves some Mannings, so it won't be. It will be forgotten by Monday.

 

[dcmissle]

Just gonna take a big, long swig of hot black coffee and turn on ESPN.

Remember the ESPN crawl after the Tiger/spouse/golf club incident? I believe it was over a holiday weekend.

For the longest time, nothing. Then, something like “Tiger’s vehicle scratched in accident.”

Straight Outta Pravda.

 

[ifmanis5]

Remember the ESPN crawl after the Tiger/spouse/golf club incident? I believe it was over a holiday weekend.

For the longest time, nothing. Then, something like “Tiger’s vehicle scratched in accident.”

Straight Outta Pravda.

Yup, this will be the same. There's not a word on it on any of their platforms yet.

 

[Pandemonium67]

Indeed nothing will come of it. As we just saw with Eli's equipment fraud, the NFL does what it wants to do and doesn't do what it doesn't want to do.

That said, I'm glad the truth on St. Peyton is now out there. He'll still be a smirking, conniving, 'aw shucks' corporate shill, but we know he's tainted and others will too. This is a good thing.

 

[SMU_Sox]

Anyone think less of him solely for the fact that he did it (leaving out the lawyers and intimidation tactics)? I don’t. He wore the wrong laundry for me to like him, and I don’t buy his whole brand/schtick, but he was one of the best of all time. I wish that athletes didn’t use them for their own sake but I won’t hold it against those who do.

 

[dcmissle]

Now we have a bookend to the Eli merchandise scandal.

Mannings could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot someone and they wouldn’t lose any starfuckers.

It’s amazing Pats thrived in the era of unholy alliance uniting this NFL royalty, ESPN and the League office.

 

[Mugsy's Jock]

To be fair, as of 322pm EST, no whisper of the story not only at ESPN.com, but also FoxSports.com, NBCSports.com, CBSSports.com, and SI.com.

[I'm trying to come up with the classic movies where the corrupt political machine destroyed all the newspapers to keep a story from breaking. Was it in MR. SMITH GOES TO WASHINGTON? Same kind of thing happened in FLORENCE FOSTER JENKINS, but I wanted the classic example.]

 

[dcmissle]

Anyone think less of him solely for the fact that he did it (leaving out the lawyers and intimidation tactics)? I don’t. He wore the wrong laundry for me to like him, and I don’t buy his whole brand/schtick, but he was one of the best of all time. I wish that athletes didn’t use them for their own sake but I won’t hold it against those who do.

Not really — putting aside the lying and intimidation. (Though the Tennessee stuff is really disturbing.)

If you take him solely on field — the Big Ben Rule — there’s an awful lot to like. What disturbs me the most is that dreadful occasion he threw his o-line under the bus. That was awful.

 

[Average Reds]

Anyone think less of him solely for the fact that he did it (leaving out the lawyers and intimidation tactics)? I don’t. He wore the wrong laundry for me to like him, and I don’t buy his whole brand/schtick, but he was one of the best of all time. I wish that athletes didn’t use them for their own sake but I won’t hold it against those who do.

The problem is that you can’t separate the HGH from the hired goons and intimidation. Especially because it fits the MO of the entire family based on how they treated Jamie Naughright at Tennessee and for years after.

So no, I don’t think Peyton is a scumbag because he used HGH. I think he’s a scumbag because he has a long record of being a scumbag.

 

[Average Reds]

Not really — putting aside the lying and intimidation. (Though the Tennessee stuff is really disturbing.)

We posted at almost the same time, but it’s worth remembering that the incident with the trainer isn’t just about what happened to her at Tennessee. (And about her being essentially blackballed for reporting it.) It’s about the multiple violations of the settlement agreement committed over many years by Peyton and Archie (among others) because they have never stopped lying about the incident.

 

[dcmissle]

To be fair, as of 322pm EST, no whisper of the story not only at ESPN.com, but also FoxSports.com, NBCSports.com, CBSSports.com, and SI.com.

[I'm trying to come up with the classic movies where the corrupt political machine destroyed all the newspapers to keep a story from breaking. Was it in MR. SMITH GOES TO WASHINGTON? Same kind of thing happened in FLORENCE FOSTER JENKINS, but I wanted the classic example.]

Everyone on that list other than SI wants him in a broadcast booth.

God, they are terrible.

 

[PayrodsFirstClutchHit]

 

[dcmissle]

We posted at almost the same time, but it’s worth remembering that the incident with the trainer isn’t about what happened to her at Tennessee. (And about her being essentially blackballed.) it’s about the multiple violations of the settlement agreement committed by Peyton and Archie, among others because they have never stopped lying about the incident.

It is. Responding to SMU who called for on-field only assessment. I have no doubt they are objectively awful. We’re in the vicinity of Lance Armstrong here + the Big Ben element thrown in.

 

[shaggydog2000]

As long as he isn't lying to me about Nationwide being a high quality insurance product, and Papa John's being delicious pizza, I'll forgive the HGH stuff.

 

[E5 Yaz]

Totally unsurprised that he used HGH.

Then again, I would be totally unsurprised regarding this type of news about any pro athlete

 

[loshjott]

To be fair, as of 322pm EST, no whisper of the story not only at ESPN.com, but also FoxSports.com, NBCSports.com, CBSSports.com, and SI.com.

[I'm trying to come up with the classic movies where the corrupt political machine destroyed all the newspapers to keep a story from breaking. Was it in MR. SMITH GOES TO WASHINGTON? Same kind of thing happened in FLORENCE FOSTER JENKINS, but I wanted the classic example.]

EDT.

Sorry, carry on, pet peeve of mine.

 

[mauidano]

I'm sure Peyton just "misremembered".

 

[mauidano]

Guy is teflon. Nothing will come of this.

Welcome to the Teflon Family. Silly rules do not apply.

 

[Papelbon's Poutine]

Remember the ESPN crawl after the Tiger/spouse/golf club incident? I believe it was over a holiday weekend.

For the longest time, nothing. Then, something like “Tiger’s vehicle scratched in accident.”

Straight Outta Pravda.

Believe it was Thanksgiving, yes.

 

[Van Everyman]

So basically what is new in this report is that Al Jazeera is saying Olson confirmed the basic story? Team Manning is predictably disputing this poont:

"Al Jazeera’s self-serving claim that Peyton Manning’s attorneys 'confirmed' Al Jazeera’s allegations about Peyton Manning is absolutely false. In fact, information was provided to Al Jazeera that confirmed the Al Jazeera allegations about Peyton Manning were unfounded. In addition, the sole source for Al Jazeera’s allegations has publicly recanted them. Moreover, the NFL conducted an extensive investigation of the claims raised in Al Jazeera’s programs and found no evidence to support them. This is a desperate move by Al Jazeera to distract the courts from its own wrongdoing."

 

[Reverend]

Like @Average Reds , my opinion of Peyton Manning remains unchanged in the slightest.

 

[JayMags71]

It’s amazing Pats thrived in the era of unholy alliance uniting this NFL royalty, ESPN and the League office.

Further evidence of my theory that anyone in the NFL in charge of “strategy” is really, really, really, really, really, really, fucking dumb.

 

[Reverend]

Further evidence of my theory that anyone in the NFL in charge of “strategy” is really, really, really, really, really, really, fucking dumb.

It's going to be awesome when Belichick doesn't make the HoF on the first ballot.

 

[NortheasternPJ]

Like @Average Reds , my opinion of Peyton Manning remains unchanged in the slightest.

Agreed. He’s still a fantastic regular season quarterback and one of the best regular season QBs of all time

 

[mt8thsw9th]

HGH isn't really going to have any performance-enhancing effects for a quarterback, and if it's him and his wife, I'd guess it's more likely using it for other health reasons (though 2015 fits the timeline of healing from his injury). I mean, if they find out he was also cycling while taking, it's probably a big deal, but in a league in which 260lb men can run 4.5 40s, the biggest shock is NFL players not using.

I don't care for the dude either, but I'd much rather his sexual assault allegations get traction rather than him in essence taking a health supplement with dubious legality.

 

[Kenny F'ing Powers]

I think people would care more if Brady hadn't completely blown by him for GOAT. But, he did, so nobody gives a shit.

It's actually a pretty good reason for people to ignore hating Manning.

 

[Red Right Ankle]

As long as he isn't lying to me about Nationwide being a high quality insurance product, and Papa John's being delicious pizza, I'll forgive the HGH stuff.

Uh ...sit down, close the door.

 

[Jimbodandy]

HGH doesn't make him a bad guy. Physical intimidation with actual hired guns, lawyer-whipping people below his financial stratosphere, sexual assault, and public character assassination makes him a bad guy. If I got 100-1 odds on this becoming an actual story, I wouldn't drop $10 on it for a lark.

 

[Toe Nash]

HGH isn't really going to have any performance-enhancing effects for a quarterback, and if it's him and his wife, I'd guess it's more likely using it for other health reasons (though 2015 fits the timeline of healing from his injury). I mean, if they find out he was also cycling while taking, it's probably a big deal, but in a league in which 260lb men can run 4.5 40s, the biggest shock is NFL players not using.

I don't care for the dude either, but I'd much rather his sexual assault allegations get traction rather than him in essence taking a health supplement with dubious legality.

It wouldn't have helped him make an improbable comeback from a career-threatening injury to put up one of the best statistical seasons of all time? Honest question, I am not a doctor.

 

[Reverend]

HGH doesn't make him a bad guy. Physical intimidation with actual hired guns, lawyer-whipping people below his financial stratosphere, sexual assault, and public character assassination makes him a bad guy. If I got 100-1 odds on this becoming an actual story, I wouldn't drop $10 on it for a lark.

Yup, like I said... this doesn't move the needle for me.

 

[YTF]

Better ingredients........

 

[Comfortably Lomb]

Good for him. The money was great.

 

[Reverend]

Good for him. The money was great.

I've often wondered what it's like to have the resourced to be able to do all the research and gain access to all the necessary medical training and realize that we have medicine that can enhance and extend our physical lives for athletes and regular people alike, but it's all illegal because a black man hit a lot of baseballs really far.

 

[CoffeeNerdness]

Aren't anti-aging clinics and testosterone replacement therapy booming businesses these days? Maybe I'm missing your point.

 

[Marciano490]

Aren't anti-aging clinics and testosterone replacement therapy booming businesses these days? Maybe I'm missing your point.

With a script. I assume he went black market because he couldn’t square a script with the NFL’s drug policy. But, yeah, if you have a few grand and a story about being tired and your wiener being sad, you can cop test and hgh from a real live doctor nice and legally.

 

[axx]

With a script. I assume he went black market because he couldn’t square a script with the NFL’s drug policy. But, yeah, if you have a few grand and a story about being tired and your wiener being sad, you can cop test and hgh from a real live doctor nice and legally.

That made me laugh but would doctors really prescribe HGH for ED? As mentioned I thought HGH was more about recovery from injury.

 

[Reverend]

With a script. I assume he went black market because he couldn’t square a script with the NFL’s drug policy. But, yeah, if you have a few grand and a story about being tired and your wiener being sad, you can cop test and hgh from a real live doctor nice and legally.

Is "all the stuff" available at such clinics with prescription? Or is there still stuff that might be/is effective for health and fitness that is still illegal everywhere, if available to athletes, actors, entertainers, etc.?

 

[Reverend]

That made me laugh but would doctors really prescribe HGH for ED? As mentioned I thought HGH was more about recovery from injury.

Is this a straight line?

 

[JohnnyTheBone]

Yup, like I said... this doesn't move the needle for me.

Agreed. He’s still a fantastic regular season quarterback indoors, and one of the best regular season indoor QBs of all time. I don’t think Peyton is a scumbag because he used HGH. I think he’s a scumbag because he has a long record of being a scumbag.

 

[Reverend]

Agreed. He’s still a fantastic regular season quarterback indoors, and one of the best regular season indoor QBs of all time. I don’t think Peyton is a scumbag because he used HGH. I think he’s a scumbag because he has a long record of being a scumbag.

What are you having for lunch tomorrow?

Anything good?

 

[luckiestman]

Is "all the stuff" available at such clinics with prescription? Or is there still stuff that might be/is effective for health and fitness that is still illegal everywhere, if available to athletes, actors, entertainers, etc.?

The common anti aging RX stuff afaik is TRT and HGH. There is plenty of other stuff that has a medicinal use but people are using it off label e.g. insulin.

 

[Reverend]

The common anti aging RX stuff afaik is TRT and HGH. There is plenty of other stuff that has a medicinal use but people are using it off label e.g. insulin.

I mean Tom Hardy Stuff.

 

[Marciano490]

The common anti aging RX stuff afaik is TRT and HGH. There is plenty of other stuff that has a medicinal use but people are using it off label e.g. insulin.

DO NOT MESS WITH INSULIN. You will die.

For the earlier questions, hgh I don’t know about its effects on sex drive. I was referring to test, which you can also get with a script.

For Rev - first, nice job with “move the needle”. Also, the real xcore stuff (tren) I don’t think you can get at a run of the mill clinic. I know some pros have scripts for everything so they can fly with their kits, but I have no idea how they’re copping prescriptions for anavar and deca and the like.

 

[riboflav]

Turned off another fan (this time, Ravens' fan!) off the NFL! Unfortunately, she had not heard of the skins' cheerleading scandal. Says a lot, no?