PES 2016 - What you should be playing?

Infield Infidel

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I've been playing PES 2016 on PS4 since about Thanksgiving. I had only played FIFA until then (the last FIFA I played was World Cup 2014, on PS3, so some comparisons will probably be unfair). I've enjoyed PES, but there are pros/cons

Cons
Let's get the main con out of the way, it's a huge one - licenses. There are fake team names, logos, kits and manager names for EPL (save ManU), Championship, Portugal (save Benfica, Sporting, Porto), Serie B, and most of Chile and Argentina. Player names/characteristics are correct for these leagues. There is a work around, as you can download a user-created Day One pack to a thumbdrive, and manually edit all of these items. It's easy but super tedious. You can only edit one item at a time, so it took me literally 10-12 hours to do the changes, and I didn't edit all the manager names, nor the national teams, some of which (USMNT) have fake player names.

While it's tedious, it does allow a little bit of creativity - I use these sweet 96-97 Newcastle Kits instead of that Wonga crap



A weird thing is the default fake colors are still in the crowd, so Newcastle's crowd wears red, Everton is yellow, etc.

There are also dummy leagues if you want to insert Bundesliga, Liga MX, MLS and/or J-League or K-League, but these have fake players as well, so I didn't do those changes since that would probably take forever. The info is available online but, nah. Bayern, Monchengladbach and Wolfsburg and a bunch of other Euro teams are already in the game, that's enough for me. Some J-League and K-League teams are already in there too.

Other cons
-In Manager mode, the teams in the dummy leagues are in the Champions league and Europa league, which is kind of annoying.
-Obviously, not as many leagues. I miss starting a team in League Two and moving them up to the Prem. I also miss MLS teams for online play.
-Online, it says they'll match you with a comparable player, but if it takes long time to find a match, they'll match you with someone outside the chosen range. I'm only a 400 rated player, and the settings say +/- 50 points, and somehow I got matched with a 540 player yesterday. I'll just back out in the future if it takes awhile


Pros
(again, I don't know if FIFA 16 has these features)
-PES is more freeflowing, and has more varied goal scoring opportunities. You can score from seemingly any angle if you know what you are doing. My main gripe with FIFA is that the gameplay is too rote - get to spot x, pass to player in spot y, and shoot.
-The keepers are not as impenetrable.
-AI teammates move more sensibly.
-The pass weighting is sublime, and I rarely get that issue where I intend to pass to one guy and it goes to someone else in front of/behind the intended receiver.
-Fluid formations, and different formations for attacking/defending. The team switches on the fly.
-Live transfer updates for online matches. What a world!

Online, I've only played Divisions, so I don't know much about MyClub, the FUT for PES. I've only done manager mode and Divisions
 
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Zomp

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I'll have to try it out again. The last time I played PES was at least 5 years ago. I felt as though FIFA caught up with them in regards to game play then and I never looked back. Does PES have anything similar to ultimate team? It's all I play now.
 

Curll

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I remember the FIFA/PES war. The way the pitches burned. The faces of diehards destroyed. I saw a third of EPL's legion banished, and the creation of Online. I stood with my brothers and watched PES fall. But, now my brothers are not my brothers.

Glad to see PES making a comeback. But, the PC version is fuxxored. If Konami and Sega partnered up and combined FM with PES, they'd rule the world.
 

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I haven't played either in a few years, but in-game PES used to be much better than FIFA in terms of passing particularly.
 

Infield Infidel

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I'll have to try it out again. The last time I played PES was at least 5 years ago. I felt as though FIFA caught up with them in regards to game play then and I never looked back. Does PES have anything similar to ultimate team? It's all I play now.
So I've been playing MyClub, which is the FUT for PES. It's similar, but you don't sell or buy players. You use GP to purchase scouts or agents; better scouts/agents cost more GP but have better players. When you buy a scout or agent, you have a semi-blind draw for a player. There are five levels: white/bronze/silver/gold/black. 20 or 30 balls of those colors rotate on and off the screen. It's a challenge because when you press the button it only slows down until it stops on your selection, but it seems like you can get the timing down.

If you want to get rid of a player, you can convert him to a trainer and he gets one training session with another player on the team (who ideally matches position/country/club). The trainee gets a ratings bump and the trainer "retires".