Pedroia on DL

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With how significant the surgery was, set backs like Pedroia had should not be surprising or alarming. At the link Pozo posted, there was another article in which Steven Wright was talking about his comeback from similar surgery...there are lots of ups and downs, good days and bad, no matter how hard and how carefully you rehab.
 

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The bolded is my only problem with this post. Has there been a time yet when he's come back from injury at the appropriate time?
Pedroia is the only player I've ever wanted to see in a full body cast for a toe injury.

I remember him being out there in his knees taking ground balls with a broken foot.

He won't ever change, and we love the dirt dog mentality, but it definitely complicates his recovery from injury.

Which will be increasingly important as he ages and gets brittle.
 

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Could not have been a better year for Brock Holt to resuscitate.
That’s a glass just about full take. Good on you. In fact, Brock is having his best year ever in avg, OBP, OPS, wRC+, etc. Hopefully, he can stay healthy. In fact, his staying healthy and continuing what he’s been doing has to be a significant key to the success of the rest of the season.
 

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Can you imagine his reaction to getting a world series ring for a season in which he had 11 ab and an ops+ of -7?
 

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Fuck you Machado. You should be forced to play the rest of the year in Charm City for that dumpster fire that may be worse than the '61 Mets.
 

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Fuck you Machado. You should be forced to play the rest of the year in Charm City for that dumpster fire that may be worse than the '61 Mets.
Pedroia's knee was fucked before Machado slid into him (he had had surgery on it the previous off-season). All Machado did was possibly accelerate the timetable for when he had the second operation.
 

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I guess i dont understand to how we got from Pedey not ruling out opening day- to apparently being good to go to start June - to Pedey saying if the MRI only shows its 75% healed by the middle of August that he is done for the season.

Ok, the first bit of optimism was Pedey being Pedey.

But when he came back in June, about when expected, which forced a roster move (losing Hanley and then having to get Pearce later), presumably trainers, Docs, and MRI's all agreed.

So what happened? How do you go from being good to go (even if not exactly 100%) to then being out for potentially another 4 months or longer after a couple of games? Its like he went almost back to where he was when his rehab and recovery first started

Obviously we can hope its all good by mid August. But he will need a lengthy rehab assignment this time. Last one was way too short

Worst case, I suppose its out of the question that the team insured Pedroias contract given JWH aversion to player insurance. That could have helped offset some of the penalties for going over 237 should they decide to do so.
 

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IIRC, he’s the first position player ever to have this knee surgery. The likelihood of his recovery this season wasn’t a sure thing from the start.
 

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I guess i dont understand to how we got from Pedey not ruling out opening day- to apparently being good to go to start June - to Pedey saying if the MRI only shows its 75% healed by the middle of August that he is done for the season.

Ok, the first bit of optimism was Pedey being Pedey.

But when he came back in June, about when expected, which forced a roster move (losing Hanley and then having to get Pearce later), presumably trainers, Docs, and MRI's all agreed.

So what happened? How do you go from being good to go (even if not exactly 100%) to then being out for potentially another 4 months or longer after a couple of games? Its like he went almost back to where he was when his rehab and recovery first started

Obviously we can hope its all good by mid August. But he will need a lengthy rehab assignment this time. Last one was way too short

Worst case, I suppose its out of the question that the team insured Pedroias contract given JWH aversion to player insurance. That could have helped offset some of the penalties for going over 237 should they decide to do so.
It's pretty simple, really. Pedroia is only the second baseball player to have this type of surgery on his knee. Steven Wright was the first and only by a few months. All estimates on when they'd be healthy enough to return to the field were 100% guesswork. That both players are back on the DL with inflammation in their repaired knees would indicate that the doctors' guesswork was a bit off.

I'd imagine that if either of these guys weren't professional players and instead regular guys working regular jobs that didn't put undue stress on the knees, they'd be 100% recovered.
 

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Hopefully if The Brockstar regresses in the 2nd half, Nunez can make up for it by regressing positively in the other direction. At least 2nd is Brock's best infield position (he plays almost dead average there defensively over his career). Can't say the same for Nunez...he's better at 3rd.
 

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I guess i dont understand to how we got from Pedey not ruling out opening day- to apparently being good to go to start June - to Pedey saying if the MRI only shows its 75% healed by the middle of August that he is done for the season.

Ok, the first bit of optimism was Pedey being Pedey.

But when he came back in June, about when expected, which forced a roster move (losing Hanley and then having to get Pearce later), presumably trainers, Docs, and MRI's all agreed.

So what happened? How do you go from being good to go (even if not exactly 100%) to then being out for potentially another 4 months or longer after a couple of games? Its like he went almost back to where he was when his rehab and recovery first started

Obviously we can hope its all good by mid August. But he will need a lengthy rehab assignment this time. Last one was way too short

Worst case, I suppose its out of the question that the team insured Pedroias contract given JWH aversion to player insurance. That could have helped offset some of the penalties for going over 237 should they decide to do so.
Can we quit with the Hanley stuff already, guy was toast. Handful of posters have him as a binky and bring it up over and over again. It was time to move on

Player insurance, who cares? It'snot your money and very rarely do we ever find out if a player's contract was insured. If it is or isn't doesn't affect the spending of this team one bit. They luxury tax is the main limiting factor, along with dead weight contracts like the beloved Hanley and the loathed Sandoval

Now I'll miss Pedey too. He's always been one of my favorite, but I want him to continue playing after this year as well
 

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Mid August is too late. I want Dozier now. Sorry Pedey, take the rest of the year off.
Dozier might be the answer but I’d like to see Philips get a shot before DD uses one of his few trade chits on a spot that might be already adequately covered in house. Phillips has some rust on him and is 37, but if he can duplicate his level of play from last season (admittedly a good sized if), that strikes me as good enough. There’s also the chance that Pedey is able to return in 2019, making second base in 2018 a pure rental.
 
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It's pretty simple, really. Pedroia is only the second baseball player to have this type of surgery on his knee. Steven Wright was the first and only by a few months. All estimates on when they'd be healthy enough to return to the field were 100% guesswork. That both players are back on the DL with inflammation in their repaired knees would indicate that the doctors' guesswork was a bit off.

I'd imagine that if either of these guys weren't professional players and instead regular guys working regular jobs that didn't put undue stress on the knees, they'd be 100% recovered.
Daniel Murphy had the same surgery, at the same time, as Pedroia. I saw a video, about a month ago of him playing in Triple A, where he had a terrible limp. He's back with Nationals now and has a low batting average, but I don't know how his mobility is.
 

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Not terribly optimistic on Pedey ever being the player he was. Days gone by. He just beat the hell out of his body. As inspirational as he is, reality sets in for all athletes who play as hard as he did. Micro-fracture surgery on a position player and a return to his previous high level is likely not going to happen.
 

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Not terribly optimistic on Pedey ever being the player he was. Days gone by. He just beat the hell out of his body. As inspirational as he is, reality sets in for all athletes who play as hard as he did. Micro-fracture surgery on a position player and a return to his previous high level is likely not going to happen.
I'm not sure the Redsox can go into 2019 with Dustin penciled in as their 2B, never mind expecting him to return to his previous high level. He turns 35 next month.
 

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If only we had a healthy RHH putting up .953 OPS this year (in 113 PA) who started 27 games at 2B in 2015-16...
 

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I'm not sure the Redsox can go into 2019 with Dustin penciled in as their 2B, never mind expecting him to return to his previous high level. He turns 35 next month.
This does have a 1984 Jerry Remy smell to it. Time will tell.
 

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Pearce is definitely an emergency option at 2B. But he only has 240 innings there in his career, so he should just remain an emergency option. He's also played 3B for a total of 70 innings. Most recently in 2016.
 

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I get what you're saying, but man, imagine having Moreland-Pearce-Xander-Devers-JD in the lineup along with the 3-B outfield.